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HistoryBuff · Former Member Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 5

Hello,

I'm a big time history buff. I've probably seen and read more on the history of the previous century than most people of my generation. I was born around the same time the Vietnam War was ending (1971). My uncle served in Vietnam and lost an eye to it. I have the utmost respect for all veterans of war and I support efforts to make truthful documentaries.

I've seen quite a few documentaries on the war and just recently watched "Stolen Honor." I think it's a fairly good film and should've been produced much sooner. My only criticism is the timing of it. Showing it only a few weeks prior to the election just makes it look like an anti-Kerry propaganda film aimed at helping George W. Bush get re-elected. That's a shame because it's an important part of the history of the Vietnam War. This story should've told a long time before now. All this time, most people have only been shown only bits and pieces of the true story. I believe many people do have some false impressions from Hollywood films that aren't always truthful. I'll also be watching the film "Going Up River" to try to gain yet another perspective and to compare and contrast the two.

I salute the Veterans of Vietnam and wish all of you the best.

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RogerRabbit · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:15 am Post subject:

HistoryBuff · Former Member Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 5

GeorgiaBoy · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 97

I'm not a vet but I could imagine that being spat upon, ridiculed, heckled and physically abused upon returning home might have something to do with the long, long silence.

one more captins mast · LCDR Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 438 Location: Texas

How did the old monk burn in Sigon??

Where did he spend the nite before he "burned".

Was there any "investagation by any "journalist" of the "events"

leading up to the "burning"?

Who made the call that made sure there would be a photo and film of it.

Can you tell me where Ted Kopple was at around that time.

Who sent the film to the U S.

Who makes History, and if History is a lie what do you propose as
one who is a "buff of history", do to MAKE HISTORY TRUE ONCE MORE?

What unanswered questions could John Kerry help with to help with
making History "whole again"?

other than that have a nice day
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Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

I B Squidly · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:50 am Post subject:

HistoryBuff you might be familiar with Napoleon's quip,
"..histoire cest un fable convenue."

Kerry and his fellow travelers in the press and media have dominated the story 'areed upon' these past 30 years. Major films depict and army of drugged rapists ala Kerry's testimony. The networks periodically issue 'White Paper' reports on the heinous nature of the military in Southeast Asia. Drug addled Viet Nam vets run amok is still a staple of TV crime dramas. Viet Cong and NVA atrocities and duplicity was ignorred among the pangerics to Ho and Giap. Nixon and Kissinger were the wicked masterminds of the mess started by Kennedy and mismanaged by LBJ.

The vets themselves went their seperate ways and got on with their lives. Burkett's book "Stolen Valor" was the first to crack the lies that predominated. If Tom Hayden or Jane Fonda had run for national office these men might have come forward earlier. They didn't but now Kerry has. Even so the media continues to disparage the truth and the Kerry campaign attacks the messengers in the hope of delaying or destroying it.

It's safe to say that the popular representations of Viet Nam and the supposed nobility of the anti-war movement have been (in the words of Henry Ford) more or less bunk.

HistoryBuff · Former Member Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 5

GeorgiaBoy · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 97

C'mon HistoryBuff, who cares what whackos MA sends to the Senate, after all they already have Teddy...

Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

HistoryBuff · Former Member Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 5

I B Squidly · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:09 am Post subject:

HistoryBuff:

You need know nothing of GWB to know Kerry is unfit.

Kerry ran as the anti-war candidate in Mass. in '72 and lost. Mass was the only state to carry McGovern in '72...go figure. Kerry's portraid himself as the hero of 'Nam ever since. Only the small handful of Swifties knew the truth but it didn't come to their attention until Kerry's leap to the national stage repleat with self aggrandising biographies. The running dog lackies of the DNC continue to prattle that one port call and 4 months is TWO tours which only proves they're clueless or lying.

GeorgiaBoy · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 97

So then, If the timing is not right, history should not be corrected?

mtboone · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:11 am Post subject:

History Buff is a new troll to the group, please tell him good by and nice try.
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