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CTW Rear Admiral
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject: CSPAN:Kerry Jewish |
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Just now Wed. 9:30am on CSPAN:Washington Journal a caller from New Mexico called in and said Kerry is not Irish and his original family name was KOHN and they were Jewish. Somebody just called and asked me about it so I am asking if anyone here knows about his family name origin. CTW
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jataylor11 Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 856 Location: Woodbridge, Virginia
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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His father was Jewish but converted. I don't think the name was Kohn -- but something other than Kerry.
Jewish like Madeline Albright is Jewish.... |
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Son of a VET Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 791 Location: TN
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think it is, don't know for sure. If it where true he would be using it to get the Jewish vote. _________________
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coolhand PO3
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 255 Location: MA/RI
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Boston Globe and the Boston Herald did many exposes on this. Primarily he is English, old school brahmin blood. I believe that is where the name Kerry came from. He does have some Chzec jew in him from one of his grandparents., who I beleive shot himself in the head. Kerry plays whatever ethnicity works best for him. I live in MA and everybody thought he was Irish, which he wasnt it. http://www.howiecarr.org/ In the Kerry Korner, scroll down to the leprauchon society and see how he let everybody think he was Irish...To get the real scoop, there are some indepth articles published by the Globe a few years back if you can find them. |
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Son of a VET Master Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | He does have some Chzec jew in him |
John Edwards is a Chzec jew?!! _________________
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coolhand PO3
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 255 Location: MA/RI
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Mary Ann Parker LCDR
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 406
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:38 pm Post subject: THIS WILL ANSWER ALMOST ANYTHING ABOUT KERRY! LINKS INCLUDED |
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I absolutely implore you to go to this timeline on KERRY!!!
YES He is Jewish....
He pretends to be IRISH when it is helpful and did for many years.
His brother is a practicing ORTHODOX married to ORTHODOX wife
and raising the children the same.
Go To Timeline @
http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html
At the intro start to click the highlights
Click the following:
1. Richard Kerry (this gives you the background for the Communist leanings. Read the whole thing. It is very comprehensive.......
2. Peggy
3. Diana
4. Cameron (brother that is Orthodox)
5. Slate
6. US Naval Reserves
You get the picture.
I promise. If you STUDY this timeline you will be AMAZED.
IT IS A GREAT JUMPING OFF POINT AND IS COMPREHENSIVE.
SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE.
Make it a generous day.
Mary Ann Parker |
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MassInd Seaman
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 157
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a 100% Irish descent Irish-American from Mass. and have 'less-than-loved' Kerry for 20 years (I was a Reagan revolution Ray Shamie guy). I had always assumed that he was Irish until it came out about a year or so ago that he wasn't. So as far as that
Quote: | "'I'm sure some people see the name and say, "Hey, I think it's this or that," but I've been clear as a bell,' Kerry said. 'I've always been absolutely straight up front about it.'
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"Kerry 'has never indicated to anyone that he was Irish and corrected people over the years who assumed he was,' [spokeswoman Kelly] Benander said." |
in the
http://slate.msn.com/id/2079783/
link goes, that is a bunch of BS.
That would have 'clear as a bell" if it were true that
Quote: | but I've been clear as a bell,' Kerry said |
I know many Irish immigrants (1st generation), and they didn't know that and they are NOT happy for various reasons. I seriously doubt that he would have won an election in this state if that had been common knowledge(EDITED: THAT HE WAS NOT IRISH). The man will say anything (or not correct a well known misperception) to get elected. For those around the rest of the country, there is a County Kerry in Ireland (a county is roughtly equivaltent to one of our states) adding to that misperception.
Why would he possibly want to diminish his chance at election by mentioning that he's not Irish? I have personally heard so many people say that they were voting for him because he's Irish and his initials are JFK and he (tried to sound like JFK) that I am sick. I am serious and that is sad. That is the state of this state. Why does the rest of the country keep voting for these Mass. Liberals in the primaries?? Don't put all the blame on this state.
Go Sox! Go Pats!
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coolhand PO3
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not Irish, but I'm from MA. We may know the truth, but many others don't, which begs the question, what battleground states have predominant Irish American communities?
Catholics are moving towards Bush because of his stance on abortion and gay marriage, but many are on the fence because of their history of supporting Dems. Something like this could help sway the Irish American catholic vote in places like Pennsylvania. Maybe we should link some articles and send emails to various Irish-American groups in battleground states. It would be cheap, but potentially effective. I'm sure there are thousands of voters that are partial towards Kerry becuase they think he is Irish. |
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Steve Z Rear Admiral
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 687 Location: West Hartford CT
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:15 pm Post subject: Kerry is Jewish |
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From what I've read, his Jewish grandfather was named Kohn, and committed suicide in a men's room during the 1920's. He had changed his name to Kerry, probably due to all the Irish immigrants in the Boston area with a similar name.
So now we can call his supporters Kohn-heads! _________________ The traitor will crater! |
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Kimmymac Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 816 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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So he has some Jewish ancestry? So he lied about it? So? All the guy does is lie. So will Mrs. Heinz-Kerry be Mrs. Heinz-Kohn?
As a staunch, life long Republican I can tell you that I do not want any part of any vote in any state, no matter how close, that is in anyway an expression of anti-Semitism. Period.
I don't care what Kerry's ethnicity is. He is not qualified to be POTUS, and has a deeply and dangerously flawed character. The fact that he has lied about being Irish so he could suck up to those in MA that would vote for him based on his being Irish, doesn't say great and wonderful things about those voters. And those that wouldn't vote for him because he might be Jewish is just as silly.
This is America. We are all about what you stand for, not what where you come from. No wonder Kerry had to make his ancestry an issue--what else does he have. Or sheesh--what your INITIALS are?
Naw, I don't blame MASS for Kerry; I blame McAuliffe and his thugs. _________________ The last refuge of scoundrels is not patriotism; it is finicky liberal humanitarianism.--Martin Paretz |
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Mary Ann Parker LCDR
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 406
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:36 pm Post subject: No Offense Please |
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Kimmy
You are one of my favorites.
I have brought up the timeline because it so extensively tells
about who he is, where he came from, how opportunistic he is etc.
I do not endorse all the responses to this issue (or any other for that
matter)
I find it particularly galling that he is the one who dodges his
ethnicity and roots.
If you study the highlights, you will see that he is a really sad case
in a way.
I post to continue to show the patholgy of his lies and exploitation
of everything.
I have posted Jewish paper reports of his brother Cameron in
Israel talking out of THE OTHER SIDE OF KERRY'S mouth,
No bias here except for the TRUTH.
Our perception of the truth never alters the truth.
John Forbes Kerry is a liar about most things.
He is not a patriot.
He is not a visionary.
He has no loyalty except to his own preferences.
He is ruthless.
He is "unfit for command".
I pray that all of us will keep perspective and focus.
I for one am horrified that someone like him has gotten this
far in America;a land of people whom I love.
No offense to anyone. God knows that I don't like him and He
forgives me. Believe it or not, I do pray for him.
Make it a Kimmy fun day.
Mary Ann Parker |
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MassInd Seaman
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 157
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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I just want to go on the record saying that I have grown up with and been friends with many Jewish people all of my life and LOVE the state of Israel(more so than my Jewish friends).
I think the point of the thread is that Kerry will do anything to further his life-long ambition to get elected POTUS. |
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srmorton PO2
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 383 Location: Jacksonville, NC
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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As I so often do, I agree with Kimmymac. The point of the whole thing
is not to vote against Kerry because of his Jewish background, but to
see it as yet another example of how he will lie about ANYTHING to
futher his own ambitions - as if we did not already know that! I can
not understand those Americans who would even consider voting for
someone who is such a liar. Even if I had not loved Bush '41, I would
never have considered voting for Clinton because even during the
campaign there was ample evidence of his not telling the truth. It
disgusts me that these same people accuse Bush '43 of lying about
WMD in Iraq when he was only going by the intelligence reports that
all of the world believed at the time. IMHO, I think the WMD are either
buried in the desert somewhere, or they were taken to Iran or Syria
before the war. One day we will know the truth, but, until that time,
we must work as hard as we can to make sure that another liar is
not elected as the POTUS! _________________ Susan R. Morton |
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Dave_R Seaman Recruit
Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 26 Location: Mountain View, CA
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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I've known about the name change for several months now, and that Kerry's grandfather changed his name from Kohn to Kerry in order to better fit in when he came to America.
As far as I'm concerned, its a non-issue (except maybe that Kerry has implied in the past that he was of Irish descent), and that the real issue is his activities upon his return from Vietnam.
I do believe that the Swiftvets need to put together an ad that references the Sun article and directly accuses Kerry of being a tool of the North Vietnamese government and the Viet Cong.
FWIW, I'm of Portuguese/Italian descent, a Catholic, a conservative Republican and like GW a lot, but if I were a Democrat, I would have voted for Joe Lieberman in the Dem primary. IMO, he's a good man. |
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