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Me#1You#10
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 Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:31 am Post subject: "Swift boat vets state case against Kerry" |
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BZ! to Joe Ponder and Michael Cronin making the case in Florida!!!
| Quote: | Swift boat vets state case against Kerry
By Libby Wells
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 27, 2004
PALM BEACH GARDENS — The swift boat veterans of Vietnam who say Sen. John Kerry lied about his war wounds to get a Purple Heart and betrayed American soldiers with his antiwar activities have faded from the limelight, but their effort to keep Kerry out of the Oval Office is going strong.
Several members of Swift Boat Veterans and POWs for Truth, a tax-exempt, nonpartisan political action committee, stopped in Palm Beach Gardens Tuesday afternoon en route to a rally today in Orlando.
One of them, Michael Cronin, was a Navy pilot in Vietnam who spent six years in a North Vietnamese prison. It enrages Cronin to think that while he was being interrogated by his captors about alleged war crimes, Kerry was bolstering those claims by giving speeches about U.S. soldiers' "atrocities" in Vietnam.
"It was discouraging that a brother officer would do this," said Cronin, 63.
Swift boat veteran Joe Ponder of Keystone Heights did not serve with Kerry, but said Kerry's leadership role in the antiwar movement after he returned from Vietnam showed he's not fit to be commander in chief of the U.S. military.
"He spread communist propaganda about the war," said Ponder, 57.
During his brief time in Vietnam, Kerry was captain of a swift boat whose mission was to draw fire from the Viet Cong to expose their location. Kerry was awarded three Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star.
One of Kerry's biggest allies in the dispute over his war record has been Jim Rassman, a former Army special forces lieutenant who said Kerry saved his life by pulling him out of a river after he was thrown off a swift boat when an enemy mine exploded.
Rassman said during a speech in Riviera Beach last month that veterans shouldn't distort Kerry's record because they're angry that he joined the antiwar movement.
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cipher
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | During his brief time in Vietnam, Kerry was captain of a swift boat whose mission was to draw fire from the Viet Cong to expose their location. Kerry was awarded three Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star. |
Huh???
Where in the mission statement was THAT? I must have missed a memo.....
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NavyChief
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:39 am Post subject: |
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Hey, Admin...
Did I miss the big flashing sign to point to the mini-docs?
Shouldn't we be sending this link to everyone?
http://www.swiftvetsandpows.com
As cipher pointed out to me: "you sure look skinny for a chief" 
- Chief
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air_vet
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:52 am Post subject: |
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As cipher pointed out to me: "you sure look skinny for a chief"
- Chief |
Chief - after all this, maybe you can start a new career as a military analyst on FOX.
Thanks for all your hard work.
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cipher
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | As cipher pointed out to me: "you sure look skinny for a chief" |
I meant that as a former Marine who's had .... experience with chiefs .... Not a WAVE who've had, uh, *experience* with chiefs!
Just so there's no confusion.
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NavyChief
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| cipher wrote: | | Quote: | | As cipher pointed out to me: "you sure look skinny for a chief" |
I meant that as a former Marine who's had .... experience with chiefs .... Not a WAVE who've had, uh, *experience* with chiefs!
Just so there's no confusion. |
he he he 
Okay -- you made me laugh out loud on that one. Thanks, cipher I needed that.
- Chief
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cipher
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:12 am Post subject: |
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No, sir (with all due respect, I know chiefs *hate* that, but you rate it anyway. Learn to deal with it.)
*I* needed that. You have done yeoman's work (in the OLD sense of the word) on this. You are to be commended and acknowledged.
To the best of my knowledge, you are the ONLY contemporary non-Vietnam vet to appear in a high-profile spot.
By virtue of your specific knowledge and training, you have brought to light a significant fact: Kerry wrote the "Official Navy Record", which everyone cites as being the proof that Kerry is telling the "truth". That it is revealed as proof of Kerry telling a LIE is not insignificant. And for that, we all owe you a debt of gratitude mere words can not convey.
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:04 am Post subject: |
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As a WAVE with experience with chiefs....... oh, never mind.... 
They're making chiefs so dang young, these days. *sigh*
And definitely thinner. 
Okay, now what were we talking about? Oh, yes...
The mini documentaries at the above link are NOT to be missed! I hope everyone's getting links out to that page via email.
Great work, all of you guys who took part!
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