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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:17 pm    Post subject: Celebrity Alert: Yes, but how many more support Kerry? Reply with quote

Which celebrities support John Kerry and which celebrities have openly voiced their disapproval of John Kerry?

Did anybody else catch this?

"Clinton had a lot of tea parties with celebrities, but [right after] his term, somebody flew two planes into the Twin Towers. What do you want -- somebody who keeps your children safe or somebody who throws nice tea parties? . . . If I could, I would vote for Bush. He has done what needed to be done because if Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden had their way, none of us would be around in 10 years." - Rachel Hunter; actress, former Sports Illustrated swimsuit model, New Zealand citizen and ex-wife of singer Rod Stewart - in an interview with the World Entertainment News Network.

Celebrities, even those that occasionally sound sensible are notoriously flaky. Will Rachel Hunter dish out the cash at fund raisers for Kerry and Democrats as do so many other celebs?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simply because "celebrities" are easily recognizable seems to impart some kind of political wisdom to them.

Take Alec Baldwin for example. He said in 2000 that he would leave the country if Bush was elected. Guess who is still hanging around America making money and trying to pretend he didn't say it.

Natalie Maines of Dixie Chick fame is only brave enough to make political statements when out of the country. Real gutsy! Without doubt, a real blonde to boot.

I'll stop here. This train of thought could keep me busy all night. There are lots of celebrities out there with big mouths, recognizable faces, and air in place of brains.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at Sean Penn...they could have kept his big mouth over in Baghad and used him as a human shield. Tim Robbins, Richard Gere....are these men or mice? Sorry I do boycott these movies these people are in. When it start hitting them in the wallat maybe then it will count for something. But they are all mouths. I REALLY do not like Michael Moore - as a fellow Michigander he just downright disgust me. He should be shipped to live in a 3rd world country and he would change his tune as soon as he got back and maybe appreciate what it means to be an American. I will not bow nor break in front on someone. I am proud and can be mean, but above all I respect and honor the flag, the men and women who have served and most of I believe in God and his ability to protect us as he had in the past. We should never be ashamed of who or what we are.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swimsuit model (read: Oxford Scholar) and New Zealand citizen (as in "I cannot vote in this country")? Razz Rolling Eyes Razz Rolling Eyes Razz I only hope her ex isn't that flaky. We love his songs!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the stars know a lot about politics. They know how to pander to the population, and how business works. Fame is in it's essence a form of political power. There is more power in the capturing of the hearts and minds of men, than there is in the business of making detergent, or tanks for that matter.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually Jeremy I am not sure if they do know a lot about politics or if they think they do. I watch the likes of Michael Moore, Sean Penn, Barbara Streisand, Richard Gere and I do not think THEY get it. They are in their own little world in their own little time and everything revolves around them and their center. They do not realize that they are not the center of what our world revolves about.

I heard a good point today on the Glenn Beck show. He said back in the Golden Days of movies the stars tried to show themselves as one of the mainstream...today's stars try to make themselves think they are better than us and know more than us. I am sorry by pea brain can think for itself. I do not need them to tell me what is right and wrong when there own notion of right from wrong is far different from mine. I do know what part of the issues my heart lies on and it often differs from the "stars". They are not important to me. I do not have to and see a certain movie just because someone was in it...now I will avoid a movie because of someone being in it. Sean Penn....sorry won't go see ya, along with Richard Geer, Tim Robbins, and even Michael Moore. I am going to call all my movie theaters and tell them if they bring that lieing piece of crap to my neighboorhood I will be offended if they show it.

This country is at war. To put this movie so full of hate and against a sitting president is WRONG. and to do it for HATE is ever more WRONG. Michael Moore is anti-american, anti-bush, socialist, egomaniac who has no respect for anything to do with Goverment. This movie will hurt us more in the arab world and he is wanting to do this. He is wanting to bring the country down to a lower level of hatred aimed at us. Michael Moore is just a low life. He should slip back into the sewer that he climbed out of in Flint. Although I would hate for even Flint to be giving such a rotten rat.

Sad, Sad, Sad...the one these so-called stars actually think they should make movies let alone speak out about issues that they do not fully understand or comprehend?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeremy Eaton wrote:
Actually, the stars know a lot about politics. They know how to pander to the population, and how business works. Fame is in it's essence a form of political power. There is more power in the capturing of the hearts and minds of men, than there is in the business of making detergent, or tanks for that matter.


Whether they know anything about politics or not doesn't matter. They get face time and media exposure whether they are politically astute or complete morons.

The morons seem to outnumber the astutes. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

carpro wrote:
Whether they know anything about politics or not doesn't matter.



Am I the only one who thinks that Janeane Garofalo's best standup in years has been her statements on geopolitics?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to admit it Scott, but I'm more entertained by her babbling than anything I've ever seen her do "commercially" My favorite "star" moment was Martin Sheen with a piece of duct tape over his mouth.

It proves once and for all that the inventor of duct tape should be up on Rushmore.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin Sheen! That was the best, I had a laugh at that one too. But on the whole they do unfortunatly influence a large number of the 18-20 yr olds. People actually get their Political News from shows like Jon Stewart. I like Jon, (a bit too much left) but he is funny.

The punk crowd is educating their fans about the "evil" patriot act and how it will hurt them. I saw on TV the speaker for the punk crowd talking about it. Propaganda focused at these young, impressionable, angry, young anarchists.

There is "Rock the Vote" and they set up at rock/punk shows like "Clutch" at places like Irving Plaza to sign up voters. I was quite out of place, I went with friends. Clutch isn't a bad, head banging, angry band. I couldn't remember the last time I went out and had people spitting and spilling beer around me, what fun! I couldn't stop thinking, these kids are going to vote? It was scary!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Martin Sheen! That was the best, I had a laugh at that one too. But on the whole they do unfortunatly influence a large number of the 18-20 yr olds. People actually get their Political News from shows like Jon Stewart. I like Jon, (a bit too much left) but he is funny.


My favorite photo of Martin Sheen - with duct tape over his mouth, my other favorite Martin Sheen item is when he cowered in his hotel room for a number of days in a remote Canadian fishing village after seal fishermen cornered him there for interfering with their means of earning a living. Unlike Saddam Hussein's fedayeen and al-queda, there are no stories of the harp seals showing their gratitude, so siding with terrorists and bloody dictators has to be safer and more satisfying for Martin Sheen.

The Hollywood Halfwits that think they are better, and smarter than their audiences far outnumber the humbler, and better citizens in the entertainment world, such as..., such as..., well I can't think of any right now.

Jon Stewart used to hold my attention, he was funny, but the comedy faded when he tried too hard to toe the Hollywood Idiot line on George Bush and the war in Iraq, then his goofy but entertaining news show became flat, inane and boring. At that point, as far as I'm concerned, Jon Stewart became just another dull Hollywood Halfwit instead of a promising talent. I won't tune in to Jon Stewart anymore and I'll probably avoid anything else he does.

I can count on one hand the number of movies I have seen in theaters in the past ten years. I've made no conscious effort to boycott the Hollywood Idiots, it's just a gradual turning away from movieland hype and the idiot movie stars, they won't get my money at the box office.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhuCat to Phu Quoc wrote:
Jon Stewart used to hold my attention, he was funny, but the comedy faded when he tried too hard to toe the Hollywood Idiot line on George Bush and the war in Iraq, then his goofy but entertaining news show became flat, inane and boring. At that point, as far as I'm concerned, Jon Stewart became just another dull Hollywood Halfwit instead of a promising talent. I won't tune in to Jon Stewart anymore and I'll probably avoid anything else he does.


I used to watch him more, I haven't really been watching him lately. During the Dem Primary he did make alot of jokes about them too. I kept thinking he might lay off the bad Iraq jokes and get back to just being funny.

I've been watching the real news and listen to real news so much lately, the comedy channel is not as important to me these days. South Park is probably the best on. I still love Animal Planet and History Channel!

I can't stand any of these blowhard rich stars. This is why I like these discussions. They point out who said and did what, so we can make the decision to tune them out.. I want names! I was disappointed at Drew Barrymore, I like her, but what did I expect.

We need names of the real patriots, like Ted Nugent!!!! It might be easier to point out the good ones, it would be a shorter list.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PhuCat to Phu Quoc wrote:
Jon Stewart used to hold my attention, he was funny, but the comedy faded when he tried too hard to toe the Hollywood Idiot line on George Bush and the war in Iraq, then his goofy but entertaining news show became flat, inane and boring. At that point, as far as I'm concerned, Jon Stewart became just another dull Hollywood Halfwit instead of a promising talent. I won't tune in to Jon Stewart anymore and I'll probably avoid anything else he does.


I used to watch him more, I haven't really been watching him lately. During the Dem Primary he did make alot of jokes about them too. I kept thinking he might lay off the bad Iraq jokes and get back to just being funny.

I've been watching the real news and listen to real news so much lately, the comedy channel is not as important to me these days. South Park is probably the best on. I still love Animal Planet and History Channel!

I can't stand any of these blowhard rich stars. This is why I like these discussions. They point out who said and did what, so we can make the decision to tune them out.. I want names! I was disappointed at Drew Barrymore, I like her, but what did I expect.

We need names of the real patriots, like Ted Nugent!!!! It might be easier to point out the good ones, it would be a shorter list.


How about a new addition to the world's thinnest books Hollywood Patriots of the 21st-Century; or, the long version ; Hollywood Patriots 1969-2004

Of course Ann Margret, Bob Hope, Jerry Colonna, John Wayne, Glenn Ford and a few others would make it to the single page of that book.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeremy Eaton wrote:
Actually, the stars know a lot about politics. They know how to pander to the population, and how business works. Fame is in it's essence a form of political power. There is more power in the capturing of the hearts and minds of men, than there is in the business of making detergent, or tanks for that matter.


The stars know about schmooze.

About important matters like national defense from terrorists, they with few exceptions know very, very little.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FROM PAUL HARVEY

Years ago a hardworking man took his family from New York State to Australia to take advantage of a work opportunity there.

Part of this man's family was a handsome son who had aspirations of joining the circus as a trapeze artist or an actor. This young fellow, biding his time until a circus job or even a stagehand came along, worked at the local shipyards which bordered on the worst section of town.

Walking home from work one evening, this young man was attacked by five thugs who wanted to rob him. Instead of just giving up his money the young fellow resisted. However they bested him easily and proceeded to beat him to a pulp.

They mashed his face with their boots, and kicked and beat his body brutally with clubs, leaving him for dead. When the police happened to find him lying in the road they assumed he was dead and called for the Morgue Wagon.

On the way to the morgue, a policeman heard him gasp for air, and they immediately took him to the emergency unit at the hospital. When he was placed on a gurney, a nurse remarked to her horror, that this young man no longer had a face. His eye socket was smashed, his skull, legs and arms fractured, his nose literally hanging from his face, all his teeth were gone, and his jaw was almost completely torn from his skull.

Although his life was spared, he spent over a year in the hospital. When he finally left, his body may have healed but his face was disgusting to look at. He was no longer the handsome youth that everyone admired.

When the young man started to look for work again, he was turned down by everyone just on account of the way he looked. One potential employer suggested to him that he join the freak show at the circus as "The man who had no face". And he did this for a while. He was still rejected by everyone and no one wanted to be seen in his company. He had thoughts of suicide. This went on for 5 years.

One day he passed a church and sought some solace there. Entering the church he encountered a priest who had seen him sobbing while kneeling in a pew. The priest took pity on him and took him to the rectory where they talked at length. The priest was impressed with him to such a degree that he said that he would do everything possible for him that could be done to restore his dignity and life, if the young man would promise to be the best Catholic he could be, and trust in God's mercy to free him from his torturous life.

The young man went to Mass and Communion every day, and after thanking God for saving his life, asked God to only give him peace of mind and the grace to be the best man he could ever be in His eyes.

The priest, through his personal contacts was able to secure the services of the best plastic surgeon in Australia. There would be no cost to the young man, as the doctor was the priest's best friend. The doctor too was so impressed by the young man, whose outlook now on life, even though he had experienced the worst, was filled with good humor and love.

The surgery was a miraculous success. All the best dental work was also done for him. The young man became everything he promised God he would be.

He was also blessed with a wonderful, beautiful wife, and many children, and success in an industry, which would have been the furthest thing from his mind as a career, if not for the goodness of God and the love of the people who cared for him. This he acknowledges publicly.

The young man was and is..........Mel Gibson

His life was the inspiration for his production of the movie "The Man Without A Face." He is to be admired by all of us as a God fearing man, a political conservative, and an example to all as a true man of courage. And to think I admired him before I knew any of this!! He is quite a man!!!!

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