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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the AFRTS website under programming, I see many times NPR, Dan Rather, CNN News, Headline News, ABC and CBS News and others are broadcast as well, throughout the day and week. And, Harkin says he is worried about one hour of Rush?

All I see is another Liberal attempt at censorship, since they cannot compete in the arena of ideas.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:33 pm    Post subject: Clinton disbarred from practicing law Reply with quote

h3digital says: "Maybe he can explain how our country spent millions of dollars of taxpayer’s money on trying to prosecute him for impeachment with no evidence. Just hearsay. What did come of that? "

What came of that was JUSTICE. He perjured himself in an Arkansas court in his sexucal harrassment lawsuit. He lied to the Federal Grand Jury. He lied to all of us on national TV. Our Justice system is a legal system. Lying in courts is not taken lightly. It may be by liberals, but not by courts. LIberals call it "misleading". Lying under oath is acceptable by liberal morals.

Courts call it perjury! "Every person who, having taken an oath that he or she will testify...truly before any competent tribunal..., willfully...states as true any material matter which he or she knows to be false...is guilty of perjury."

He was PROSECUTED for PURJURY! If you remember, in October 2001, the Supreme Court suspended him from practicing law before the high court. The court acted after it was notified by the Arkansas Supreme Court that Clinton's Arkansas law license was suspended for five years and he paid a $25,000 fine. Evidence? Hearsay?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of like John Ryan from ILL. Guess what people we're going to have our first Black Senator! He's a Democrat, a no brainer of course. Also if Bush would allow hearings and investigations outside the excutive Branch believe you me, he and others would be guilty than a lot more than adultery. But Congress will never be allowed, wonder why?

If you do not provide proof of accusations, then it is simply just your opinion, and can be believed or not by others. If you want others to take what you post seriously, start providing proof. And it might help if you stick to the topics concerning if Bush and Kerry are considered qualified or not to be President in 2005, and knock off the attacks and slander by using unproven posts. Edited by Moderator
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

H3,

I've been around the world twice, been to three county fairs, and seen two pigs makin bacon, but I ain't never seen anything like you!!

While you even have the guts to post on a veterans website (dems have the vast vast majority of anti-war protestors and are the most outspoken against conservative talk shows and they want us to elect one of their own????) is admirable, it is, as usual, devoid of fact. Regarding the NPR discussion going on in this thread, please note:

http://www.npr.org/about/privatesupport.html

NPR (National Public Radio) is a private, self-supporting nonprofit media company with hundreds of independent radio stations as members. NPR receives no direct federal funding for general support. NPR supports its operations through a combination of membership dues and programming fees from stations, contributions from private foundations and corporations, and revenue from the sales of transcripts, books, CDs, and merchandise. A very small percentage - between 1-2 percent of NPR's annual budget - comes from competitive grants sought by NPR from federally funded organizations, such as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, National Science Foundation and the National Endowment for the Arts. At present, NPR's annual operating budget is approximately $100 million a year (2002 NPR Annual Report).

The appropriation from Congress accounts for only about 14 percent of the cost of operating local public radio stations, and the remaining 86 percent must be raised from a variety of sources, most importantly contributions from listeners.


Now, contributions from listeners. What does that mean to you, H3? Being a 86% contribution supported 'charity', one would logically assert that the station can put anyone they want on the airwaves, including dissenting views from conservatives. By the way, NO ONE OWNS THE AIRWAVES. The call letters and broadcast frequencies are regulated and licensed but not owned. That helps me and you to use CB, HF, and ham radio/transmitters. But, alas, my words fall on the ears of a lib, the filters of which prevent truth from coming through. Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kind of like Tucker Carlson on PBS, by the way he took his show name from Al Fraken's show on Air America, check it out, a good factual funny show. They even did Mad libs of Sadams letter, a caller even got to fill in the blanks, Kind of like Cheyne on enviromental laws behind closed doors, without the Democrats. The green house effect and global warming is real. Not a movie. Think about the children as they say. Because our Admin sure doesn't, deficit, envirment. yada yada yada

If you do not provide proof of accusations, then it is simply just your opinion, and can be believed or not by others. If you want others to take what you post seriously, start providing proof. And it might help if you stick to the topics concerning if Bush and Kerry are considered qualified or not to be President in 2005, and knock off the attacks and slander by using unproven posts. Edited by Moderator
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

H3 said:

Maybe he can explain how our country spent millions of dollars of taxpayer’s money on trying to prosecute him for impeachment with no evidence. Just hearsay. What did come of that?

He was impeached.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edited by Moderator - Please stick to comments concerning if Kerry or Bush should or shouldn't be President.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

H3,

Please, please do not try to use Nancy Pelosi as any kind of bipartisan authority on this website. It's like my late daddy used to say, 'sometimes you catch the bus, sometimes it runs over you'. Did it hurt, H3? Shocked

Oh, by the way. There are far more scientists who dismiss the global warming theory than 'scientists' who support that 'theory'.


From the WSJ

http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=95000606

Our primary conclusion was that despite some knowledge and agreement, the science is by no means settled. We are quite confident (1) that global mean temperature is about 0.5 degrees Celsius higher than it was a century ago; (2) that atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide have risen over the past two centuries; and (3) that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas whose increase is likely to warm the earth (one of many, the most important being water vapor and clouds).

But--and I cannot stress this enough--we are not in a position to confidently attribute past climate change to carbon dioxide or to forecast what the climate will be in the future. That is to say, contrary to media impressions, agreement with the three basic statements tells us almost nothing relevant to policy discussions.


Don't get caught up in left wing lies and propagand, H3. Be mature.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pardon my bluntness, but do we ever get to the point where it is determined that a poster is too much of a DUMBASS to be allowed to continue posting?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes we do, and for some, that moment is rapidly approaching!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikewinn says: "NPR (National Public Radio) is a private, self-supporting nonprofit media company with hundreds of independent radio stations as members. NPR receives no direct federal funding for general support."

That is all true but the word DIRECT misleads the reader. All financial support to NPR non-profit stations is TAX DEDUCTABLE. Name me non-NPR radio stations funded by INDIRECT TAX DOLLARS, by tax avoidance dollars. NPR is not funded by the pocket change of the masses. It is INDIRECTLY funded by tax avoidance money. If I gave my NPR station $100, at least $40 would come off my taxes. $40 would, in essence, be funded by government, indirectly.

From the current WMRA web page, an NPR station, "you could claim an income tax deduction for the full fair market value of the securities. In addition, you will most likely avoid all capital gains tax that would have been due upon their sale. To realize these tax benefits, you must transfer the assets directly to WMRA rather than selling them. For example, if Ms. Doe gives $10,000 in IBM stock, she may take as her deduction the full $10,000 value of the stock. If she paid only $5,000 for the stock, her deduction is still for the full $10,000, and she pays no tax on the $5000 capital gain."

If they indeed are self-supporting, then why not drop the non-profit status and take steps to lose it tax deductable rights. NPR, like public colleges, is big liberal government funding biased one-sided speech, propogating their version of truth. When is the last time a conservative book author has been interviewed on NPR, or a conservative executive been asked to speak at a major college graduation?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:50 pm    Post subject: speech Reply with quote

"edited by Moderator - Please stick to comments concerning if Kerry or Bush should or shouldn't be President."

I thought this web forum was about Democracy and Freedom of Speech!

Anyway, we are a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rowelg said:

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I thought this web forum was about Democracy and Freedom of Speech!

Anyway, we are a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy.


First, the thread name is DemocraTS and Freedom of Speech.
Second, what the devil does having a constitutional republic have to do
with anything?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeWinn wrote:
...what the devil does having a constitutional republic have to do with anything?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gripe, gripe, gripe! Laughing

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