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Pre-war Satellite Pics Show Truck Activity @ Al Qaqaa!!!

 
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Mary Ann Parker
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:40 pm    Post subject: Pre-war Satellite Pics Show Truck Activity @ Al Qaqaa!!! Reply with quote

Here is an update folks.
Make it a busy day.
Mary Ann Parker



With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...
Thursday, Oct. 28, 2004 10:37 a.m. EDT

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/10/28/104514.shtml

Pre-war Satellite Pics Show Truck Activity at Al Qaqaa The Pentagon is examining evidence that could further discredit a report by the New York Times that hundreds of tons of high explosives were looted by terrorists from a major Iraqi weapons facility after the U.S. invaded in March 2003.

"Senior Pentagon officials say they are analyzing some satellite images from the Al Qaqaa facility south of Baghdad from before the war," the Fox News Channel's Bret Baier reported late Wednesday.

"Apparently, they show some large truck activity at that facility, [indicating] possibly that Saddam Hussein was moving the explosives out," Baier told Fox News host Greta Van Susteren.
Photos showing a pre-war truck convoy at Al Qaqaa would comport,
Baier said, with a January 2003 report by the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency revealing that 158 tons of the high explosive RDX had already gone missing from the site.

Experts say that to remove the 380 tons of high explosives reported missing from Al Qaqaa by the New York Times, it would take at least 40 trucks with a ten-ton capacity.

On Wednesday Iraq war veteran Ken Dixon, who was with the 101st Airborne division when it reached Al Qaqaa on April 10, said he noticed tracks from heavy truck tires outside the three bunkers he inspected.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woohoo!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I heard on Fox News last night that the Pentagon is debating on whether to release these images.

I hope they do, so we can put this one to bed.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really, does ANYBODY in their right mind not know of collusion between Saddam and Syria? Or even yet between Saddam and Al Quaeda? I am upset somebody has not come forward earlier and screamed about this stuff until the MSM had to report it, it's crazy to believe Saddam had good intentions of ANY kind.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and now this:

Discrepancy Found in Explosives Amounts

Documents Show Iraqis May Be Overstating Amount of Missing Material

Oct. 27, 2004 — Iraqi officials may be overstating the amount of explosives reported to have disappeared from a weapons depot, documents obtained by ABC News show.

The Iraqi interim government has told the United States and international weapons inspectors that 377 tons of conventional explosives are missing from the Al-Qaqaa installation, which was supposed to be under U.S. military control.

But International Atomic Energy Agency documents obtained by ABC News and first reported on "World News Tonight with Peter Jennings" indicate the amount of missing explosives may be substantially less than the Iraqis reported.

The information on which the Iraqi Science Ministry based an Oct. 10 memo in which it reported that 377 tons of RDX explosives were missing — presumably stolen due to a lack of security — was based on "declaration" from July 15, 2002. At that time, the Iraqis said there were 141 tons of RDX explosives at the facility.

But the confidential IAEA documents obtained by ABC News show that on Jan. 14, 2003, the agency's inspectors recorded that just over three tons of RDX were stored at the facility — a considerable discrepancy from what the Iraqis reported.

The IAEA documents could mean that 138 tons of explosives were removed from the facility long before the United States launched "Operation Iraqi Freedom" in March 2003.

The missing explosives have become an issue in the presidential campaign. Sen. John Kerry has pointed to the disappearance as evidence of the Bush administration's poor handling of the war. The Bush camp has responded that more than a thousand times that amount of explosives or munitions have been recovered or destroyed in Iraq.

Another Concern

The IAEA documents from January 2003 found no discrepancy in the amount of the more dangerous HMX explosives thought to be stored at Al-Qaqaa, but they do raise another disturbing possibility.


The documents show IAEA inspectors looked at nine bunkers containing more than 194 tons of HMX at the facility. Although these bunkers were still under IAEA seal, the inspectors said the seals may be potentially ineffective because they had ventilation slats on the sides. These slats could be easily removed to remove the materials inside the bunkers without breaking the seals, the inspectors noted.




ABC News' Martha Raddatz filed this report for "World News Tonight." Luis Martinez contributed to this report.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On January 8 2004, Free Republic posted an article from DEBKA which I have had book marked since that date! DEBKA is an Israeli website and some people look askance at it; however, all throughout the war I used to read it everyday because they seemed to have stuff before our government did!

http://www.debka.com/

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A senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq’s WMD located in three Syrian sites.
DEBKAfile ^ | January 8, 2004, 8:57 PM


Posted on 01/08/2004 11:08:38 PM PST by priceofreedom


A senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq’s WMD located in three Syrian sites.

Special report by DEBKAfile

January 8, 2004, 8:57 PM (GMT+02:00)

Nizar Najoef, a Syrian journalist who recently defected from Syria to Western Europe and is known for bravely challenging the Syrian regime, said in a letter Monday, January 5, to Dutch newspaper “De Telegraaf,” that he knows the three sites where Iraq’s WMD are kept. The storage places are:

1. Tunnels dug under the town of al-Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria. These tunnels are an integral part of an underground factory, built by the North Koreans, for producing Syrian Scud missiles. Iraqi chemical weapons and long-range missiles are stored in these tunnels.

2. The village of Tal Snan, north of the town of Salamija, where there is a big Syrian airforce camp. Vital parts of Iraq’s WMD are stored there.

3. The city of Sjinsjar on the Syrian border with the Lebanon, south of the city Homs.

Najoef writes that the transfer of Iraqi WMD to Syria was organized by the commanders of Saddam Hussein’s Special Republican Guard, including General Shalish, with the help of Assif Shoakat , Bashar Assad’s cousin. Shoakat is the CEO of Bhaha, an import/export company owned by the Assad family.

In February 2003, a month before America’s invasion in Iraq, DEBKAfile and DEBKA-Net-Weekly were the only media to report the movement of Iraqi WMD, the efforts to bring them from Iraq to Syria, and the personal involvement of Bashar Assad and his family in the operation.

Najoef, who has won prizes for journalistic integrity, says he wrote his letter because he has terminal cancer.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you all think this is strange that THIS information has been out there all this time and the New York Times NEVER found it???

Here's another post from Little Green Footballs
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=8774
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Debka ended up being correct about the moving of WMD's from Iraq to Syria and the Bekka Valley. Debka reported this WMD movement in February, they also reported the movement of WMD's was being facilitated by French diplomats and intel agents also two rouge Russian Generals. Debka reported then that the French were involved for no other reason than to embarass the US. They were also correct when they reported that several high government officials in France, Germany and Russia were accepting bribe money from Saddam to oppose the deposing of him. Both reports were discredited in the press and intel circles and now it seems that Debka was correct as they are most of the time.

Debka reports should be taken seriously as they seem more capable than the CIA in making accurate determinations.


And here's another one from Free Republic in May 2004:
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New evidence: Saddam's WMD in Lebanon
WorldNetDaily ^ | 5/20/04 | WorldNetDaily


Posted on 05/20/2004 3:29:21 PM PDT by wagglebee


Over the last few months, the U.S. intelligence community has received new evidence a sizable amount of Iraqi WMD systems, components and platforms were transferred to Syria in the weeks leading up to the U.S.-led war in Iraq, reports Geostrategy-Direct, the global intelligence news service.

But chances are the Bush administration won't be releasing this information for a while.

The convoys were spotted by U.S. satellites in early 2003, but the contents of the WMD convoys from Iraq to Syria were not confirmed.

Confirmation later came from Iraqi scientists and technicians questioned by a U.S. team that was searching for Saddam's conventional weapons. But all they knew was the convoys were heading west to Syria.

But over the last few months, U.S. intelligence managed to track the Iraqi WMD convoy to Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.

Through the use of satellites, electronic monitoring and human intelligence, the intelligence community has determined that much, if not all, of Iraq's biological and chemical weapons assets are being protected by Syria, with Iranian help, in the Bekaa Valley.

The Syrians received word from Saddam Hussein in late 2002 that the Iraqi WMD would be arriving and Syrian army engineering units began digging huge trenches in the Bekaa Valley.

Saddam paid more than $30 million in cash for Syria to build the pits, acquire the Iraqi WMD and conceal them.

At first, U.S. intelligence thought Iraqi WMD was stored in northern Syria. But in February 2003 a Syrian defector told U.S. intelligence the WMD was buried in or around three Syrian Air Force installations.

But intelligence sources said the Syrians kept dual-use nuclear components for themselves while transferring the more incriminating material to Lebanon.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

There seems to be no doubt to where the WMD went to.

Saddam's WMD hidden in Syria, says Iraq survey chief

Al Qa Qaa Satellite Imagery

Send in Special Ops to check it out. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just saw Jamie Mcintyre show the pic on CNN headline news - saw the big truck there.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sure am glad that this election did not occur during the Cold War. I don't think they would ever released any photos from what I've heard.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-115519-3700r.htm

Photos point to removal of weapons

By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


U.S. intelligence agencies have obtained satellite photographs of truck convoys that were at several weapons sites in Iraq in the weeks before U.S. military operations were launched, defense officials said yesterday.
The photographs indicate that Iraq was moving arms and equipment from its known weapons sites, said officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
According to one official, the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, known as NGA, "documented the movement of long convoys of trucks from various areas around Baghdad to the Syrian border."


FLASH 10.29.01 11:36:56 ET /// Soldier to brief reporters at Pentagon within the hour that he was tasked with removing explosives from al Qaqaa and he and his unit removed 200+ tons... Developing...

http://www.drudgereport.com
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