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Becky
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeorgiaBoy wrote:
Nobody answered me earlier... It might of got lost... Did anyone from Mississippi call Trent Lott, I feeel he might just be willing to fire the first Salvo.


Yes, email and mail (continually)...he avoids me like the plague...
as does Cochran and Taylor - I just don't understand it...I'm
nice...just persistent.... Shocked latest regarding communist
ties article...no return calls, idiot answers (you know the kind -
I don't know the answer but I'll have blah blah), no email
response...and the only one who answered by letter was
Cochran with a "I understand your...and will look into the
matter further" type of response...my response was I will
remember your helpfulness at election time...Lott is a lot
of hot air most of the time...cushy job...follows the pack
but looks like he leads...
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Becky
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

grumpyBB wrote:
I just got off the phone with Lott's DC office and the lady that answered the phone said she wasn't aware of the documents or the story. I told her about them and she said she'd pass it on to their press rep and their veterans affars guy. I asked if they had an email where I could send them the links to the articles and documents and she gave me the email of their Vets rep, Barry Williams. His e-mail addy is Barry_Williams@lott.senate.gov


sniff, sniff...they never gave me the Vets email addy...
thanks for passing it on...
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Becky
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CTW wrote:
(snipped)

Wake up. NOT ONE SENATOR IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING ...maybe after the election???.
(another snip)
Never Ever Kerry


My calls, emails, letters, go nowhere, ignored, passed on, or
"I don't know, but so and so will call you back"...etc...I agree...
no senator will do anything for fear Kerry will win...or
until they see how the American people back Bush...
cowards...and to think we elect them to represent us!
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MJB
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Becky wrote:
My calls, emails, letters, go nowhere, ignored, passed on, or "I don't know, but so and so will call you back"...etc...I agree...
no senator will do anything for fear Kerry will win...or
until they see how the American people back Bush...
cowards...and to think we elect them to represent us!


THIS IS WHOLE POINT - WE NEED TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THIS ISSUE AND OUR DEEP CONCERN AND OUTRAGE.

Not to be harsh, but that's why I want every person on this board (yes, that means you out there!) to pick up the phone and call NOW (OK, in the morning).

They don't know, they don't know we care - and if you're waiting for the media to pick up on this....you know what will be freezing over.

DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED!!!!

As I've noted before, the numbers add up in the congressional offices. Call BOTH the local and DC offices. Numbers posted above.

CALL CALL CALL CALL

THIS IS SOMETHING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US CAN DO TO CONTRIBUTE!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Becky wrote:
GeorgiaBoy wrote:
Nobody answered me earlier... It might of got lost... Did anyone from Mississippi call Trent Lott, I feeel he might just be willing to fire the first Salvo.


no return calls, idiot answers

..follows the pack...but looks like he leads...




DO NOT EXPECT A PERSONAL ANSWER - JUST PUSH FOR PUBLIC ACTION. ACTION. ACTION.

And yes, that was my whole point earlier - the Senate is the biggest Good 'Ole Boy network around. They will NOT stick their necks out to attack a fellow Senator unless they have a damn good reason. And it's our job to give them one!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I B Squidly wrote:
Where the hell are you Zonies?

Kyles office hadn't heard and Mike said he hadn't heard anything. I covered the Hanoi-Kerry doc's, requested a demand for Kerry's record and requested he coordinate with the Majority Leader.

Don't waste time with McCain!


zonie here.... hadn't heard? when was that? I called them Monday and

told them!!!! and emailed the addresses for articles and Veitnam docs!

Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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Becky
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent an email to Judicial Watch this evening...and to
FOX News and Britt Hume Oct 26 regarding Kerry's
Hanoi connection reported at the links below...haven't heard
anything yet.


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41106

http://www.nysun.com/article/3756

Actual documents posted here:

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=vccircular

Breaking from authors at this website:
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=puppets

Judicial Watch addresses

Judicial Watch, Inc.
P.O. Box 96234
Washington, DC 20077-7480
Tel: 888-JW-ETHIC
Fax: 202-646-5199
info@judicialwatch.org

Southern Regional Headquarters
100 S.E. 2nd Street
Bank of America Tower
Suite 3920
Miami, FL 33131-2148
Tel: 305-349-2391
Fax: 305-374-9054

Western Regional Headquarters
2540 Huntington Drive
Suite 201
San Marino, CA 91108-2601
Tel: 626-287-4540
Fax: 626-237-2003

Southwestern Regional Headquarters
5735 Pineland Drive, Suite 275
Dallas, TX 75231
Tel: 214-739-7188
Fax: 214-739-8873
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MJB
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I can't keep my eyes open any longer...

When you read this Friday morning...here's my friendly reminder of your marching orders!

Again, for those who are just tuning in...

My sister worked on Captiol Hill...phone calls are very effective - since they represent 10-100 other people who feel the same way, but who choose not to call. Emails may or may not be read. Calls get logged and the issues that have lots of calls get to the Senator's attention.

You are an angry citizen who wants the Senate to get to the bottom of this.

Be calm, educational, to-the-point - and ask for ACTION. You want the Senator to DO SOMETHING. You want answers. You want them now.

Don't expect a call back - they're too busy. Just keep the pressure on. We've been doing this for a couple of days - good!!!

Look on the other threads - WorldNetDaily has an article about the third document being found. Which gives everyone a great reason to call AGAIN!!! More evidance - what are they doing out in DC???? Why aren't they on the case??? You want ACTION!

OK, YOUR MISSION FIRST THING IN THE MORNING:

CALL BOTH OF YOUR STATE'S SENATORS.

CALL BOTH THEIR WASHINGTON D.C. OFFICES AND THEIR LOCAL CONGRESSIONAL OFFICES (see...another reason to call...double the fun...double the pressure).

USE THIS WEB SITE TO FIND BOTH NUMBERS: http://congress.org/congressorg/home/

Congress is not in session, so don't expect them to be in Washington, D.C. They may very well be in their home districts or even in their local offices. Call both.

CALL SENATE MAJORITY LEADER (leader of the GOP's in the Senate) BILL FRIST.

CALL BOTH HIS D.C. AND LOCAL TENNASSEE OFFICE:
202-224-3344
615-352-9411

THEN, CALL THE SENATE WHIP (#2 GOP man in the Senate) MITCH MCCONNELL - BOTH OFFICES
202-224-2541
502-582-6304

THEN, CALL THE WHITE HOUSE AND REGISTER YOUR DEEP CONCERN
202-456-1414

THEN, CALL SEN JOHN WARNER'S OFFICE
202-224-2023
804-739-0247
Why does John Kerry have a medal citation signed by you when he did not win the medal while you were Secretary of the Navy?

For good measure, if you're still in the mood to be fiesty -

CALL SEN TED STEVEN'S (Senate President Pro Tempore - oversees the Senate when the VP isn't available) OFFICE 202-224-3004
907-271-5915


These are the key leaders in the Senate.

They want this to go away. Really. It's messy.

The US Senate is a great big, 'Ole Boys Club of the finest order. They won't rat out a fellow Senator without an extreme amount of pressure. If Kerry is starting to sink in the race, that might do it....

They work for us. They are accountable to us.

Go forth tomorrow (Friday) and KEEP CALLING!
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DoGooder
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This info has been repeated in the Discovered Paper section. I am repeating it here in case folks missed it there.

In case you have already seen it, sorry for the repeat!

* * * *

The weblogs can influence what is written by the main media. They have alot of readers and can create pressure on the main media.

These are some of the top 100 weblogs who have been supportive of the SWiftVets in the past and their emails. Some of them are covering the Kerry Commie story and others are holding back.

Enough noise from the WebLogs, and like the CBS story, the MSM will have to cover it.

Most of these folks don't want spam, so write them accordingly. Maybe break down the list into smaller chunks so it does not get filtered out?

Thanks everyone!!

mypetjawa@gmail.com
kevin@wizbangblog.com
webmaster@inthebullpen.com

have been doing a good job covering the Kerry Commie story. Give encouragement to them and to the following:

lucianne@lcomhq.com
pundit@instapundit.com
charles@littlegreenfootballs.com
powerlinefeedback@gmail.com
dbernste@gmu.edu
David.Post@temple.edu
volokh@law.ucla.edu
matt@blogsforbush.com
rachel@blogsforbush.com
captain@captainsquartersblog.com
malkin@comcast.net
steve@vodkapundit.com
hhewitt@hughhewitt.com
michele@asmallvictory.net
bear@truthlaidbear.com
johnhawkins@rightwingnews.com
blackfive@gmail.com
ltsmash@cox.net
joshua.chafetz@merton.ox.ac.uk
patrick.belton@trinity.oxford.ac.uk
tips@blogsofwar.com
jeff@buzzmachine.com
jeff@jquinton.com
gunner20@comcast.net
pundit@dailypundit.com
lashawn@lashawnbarber.com
commissar@acepilots.com
tom@anncoulter.org
bill@indcjournal.com
tomtomorrow@ix.netcom.com
betsynewmark@att.net
PrestoPundit@cox.net
SlantPoint@gmail.com
matt@martinipundit.com
joe@coldfury.com
soxblog@aol.com
dan@dansch.net
kerryhaters@cdwebs.com
stan@logicandsanity.com
info@redstate.org
althouse@wisc.edu
manwithoutqualitiesblog@yahoo.com

It would be really amazing to see our efforts increase the coverage of the Kerry Commie story. This is not the CorruptLiberalMedia, so our voices will be heard.

These folks have millions of readers. Please write and let's create some noise for our Vets!!

If you can't do them all, just select a few but PLEASe write them if you haven't already.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone contacted LINDSEY GRAHAM - he is a JAG officer (currently, so he says)

will look up his info and try to fax his offices after the sun's up on Fri.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this is probably off the wall but my mind keeps going back to how they always get the attention and press.........and their way!

It would be a HUGE coup if a massive number of people once again gathered in DC on Sunday to demand Kerry's FORM 180. Navy Chief or another with the necessary knowledge could speak to the connections with Hanoi etc.

Oh Arrow And DEMAND that the Senators address the issue
That's exactly how these people get their way and it's certainly worth the effort.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Becky wrote:
sniff, sniff...they never gave me the Vets email addy...
thanks for passing it on...
Just ask them if they have an e-mail addy where you can send them the info. I've gotten at least 10 just by asking them, otherwise they all just said they'd pass on the info. We all know how much good that'd do if they didn't have the articles and links to pass on to them.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:23 am    Post subject: What a waste of time and valuable band width Reply with quote

Thats my opinion after wading through 11 pages of this latest tail chasing about Kerry's so called, maybe UD discharge. Need to get out the vote, this is going nowhere.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Becky wrote:
I sent an email to Judicial Watch this evening...and to
FOX News and Britt Hume Oct 26 regarding Kerry's
Hanoi connection reported at the links below...haven't heard
anything yet.


Actual documents posted here:

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=vccircular

Judicial Watch addresses

Judicial Watch, Inc.
P.O. Box 96234
Washington, DC 20077-7480
Tel: 888-JW-ETHIC
Fax: 202-646-5199
info@judicialwatch.org

Southern Regional Headquarters
100 S.E. 2nd Street
Bank of America Tower
Suite 3920
Miami, FL 33131-2148
Tel: 305-349-2391
Fax: 305-374-9054

Western Regional Headquarters
2540 Huntington Drive
Suite 201
San Marino, CA 91108-2601
Tel: 626-287-4540
Fax: 626-237-2003

Southwestern Regional Headquarters
5735 Pineland Drive, Suite 275
Dallas, TX 75231
Tel: 214-739-7188
Fax: 214-739-8873



becky, altho i'd already read the items i checked out your link and something caught my eye.
i'm wondering if JW might point this out to Sec of Navy or DOD. they claim they can't release records but the apparently did in this case;


>>>Al Hubbard's own claim to have been a transport pilot wounded in combat was discredited when the Department of Defense released documents demonstrating that, though Hubbard had been in the Air Force, he was neither a pilot nor an officer, had never served in Vietnam and had never been in combat.<<<

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at Lucianne reading the replies to "Video Shows GI's at Weapon Cache". Go read the reply number 13 posted under than article. I couldn't get it to post but it mentions G. Gordon Liddy stating on Crossfire that Kerry's discharge was upgraded to honorable. Maybe someone could talk to him.

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