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rb325th
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When dealing with information that has been buried for over 30 years, in a highly Political Enviroment, and where "witnesses" may be either reluctant to come forward or are no longer available to comment the dissemenation of the information in a speedy manner is not always possible.
Please, lets remain focused on what we know for sure, that has been verified and held up to public scrutiny and get it out there as much as we can.
Any other information that may or may not be released is rather irrelevant and useless right now. Not that it would not be helpful, but it just is not available. We have to try and remain as focused as possible, using all we have already available. So on November 2nd, we all need to get out and Vote, but between now and then we must also do all we can to disseminate the already available information.
We all want to keep JFngK out of Office and to see him exposed for what he really is.
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Fort Campbell
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| Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| rb325th wrote: | When dealing with information that has been buried for over 30 years, in a highly Political Enviroment, and where "witnesses" may be either reluctant to come forward or are no longer available to comment the dissemenation of the information in a speedy manner is not always possible.
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Nor advisable. You are opening yourself to a potential lawsuit if what you claim cannot be supported by hard, proven fact or witness signed affadavits. |
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MyAslan
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AFbrat5865
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| KWJams wrote: | | Quote: | The so-called "Islamic" republic of Iran is seeking from Mr. Kerry a series of concessions that would allow them to become a nuclear weapons power and circumvent the restrictions of the USA Patriot act to infiltrate intelligence agents and potential terrorists into the United States.
How could Mr. Kerry and Mr. Edwards, who claim to be able to defend America better than President Bush, allow themselves to fall into such a trap? Top Kerry and Edwards advisers warned both candidates against accepting campaign donations from people with close ties to mullahs in Tehran months ago, sources inside their respective campaigns say. And yet, neither Mr. Kerry nor Mr. Edwards has done anything to distance himself from these donors. On the contrary, both have continued to take their money and promote their agenda.
Mr. Kerry adopted a key element of that agenda in last week's presidential debate. If president, he said he would have "offered the opportunity to provide the nuclear fuel" to Iran, to "test them, see whether or not they were actually looking for it for peaceful purposes." Mr. Kerry's words brought comfort to Tehran's top mullahs, who have been seeking to buy time from the international community for the past two years while they continue perfecting their nuclear weapons capabilities. |
... Read More http://www.krsi.net/news/Default.asp?PgNum=2#794 |
"How could Mr. Kerry and Mr. Edwards, who claim to be able to defend America better than President Bush, allow themselves to fall into such a trap?"
Its not a trap they're falling into. Either they actually believe Iran can be trusted  or they're trying to convince the American people Iran isn't such a threat... which would coincide with their claims that Bush is just trying to scare us.
On the other hand, as always happens with kerry, he also is claiming that Bush is doing nothing to stop Iran, them being such as big threat and all.
Just another case of the 2 sides of kerry. Whatever fits at the moment.
I REALLY don't believe the American people are this gullible BUT I do believe most are so willfully uninformed that they'll buy into his garbage.
And, give Iran the material as a test? (Holy crap! Let's give Charles Manson a knife, let him out before Thankgiving and see if he carves a turkey.) Testing Iran.... just another nicey-nicey-lets-all-be-friends-and-love-each-other ploy of theirs to put the scared dem's minds at ease. |
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jwb7605
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| Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| GeorgiaBoy wrote: | | After close review of all of the documents, articles and posts pertaining to the Kerry/Hanoi matter. I can only logically conclude that the Vietnam War has not ended. Kerry got US to pull out of Vietnam, but it's obvious now that the communists are still waging the war 30+ years later. It's time to end this war and give our boys the parade they never had. |
If you're young, you're perceptive.
My 2-cents worth:
The less-than-honorable is the key, not the connections.
The less-than-honorable is a FACT, which forces review of the connections.
If the stories get presented in the other order, the issue gets long-winded.
If that happens, Mr. "average citizen" (under forty) blows it off and turns on football.
Try this social experiment:
(a) tell people Kerry might have gotten a less-than-honorable, which precludes him from holding office.
(b) tell people Kerry had connections to Communist organizations.
There's a real marked difference in reactions. |
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jwb7605
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| Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Tom Poole wrote: | | GeorgiaBoy wrote: | | ...I'm not accustomed to just sitting around waiting to be slaughtered.... |
I too have little patience and my attitude is in the crapper right now. I've opted to "stand down" out of deference to the Chief (who BTW owes no one an apology). However, as I've posted elsewhere, patience is finite. I guess mine will run out early tomorrow, perhaps as late as noon. At that time, I don't know what I'll do but my attitude is dropping like the polls. Our enemies have placed our country in great peril and something must be done. |
That makes two of us.
For a while I thought I was schizophrenic, and so did I.  |
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rb325th
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| Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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John Kerry and the VVAW Betrayed their Nation by conspiring with the N. Vietnamese Govt. got to the link below and use the media Links! Call in to the Radio Shows listed tomorrow and make your voices be heard! Print out the Articles at the beginning of this thread and demand to know why it has not been covered by the media! We have time to make even more of a difference, let's not squander it waiting for a "Silver bullet", we already have it!
http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=123255#123255
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Fort Campbell
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| jwb7605 wrote: |
My 2-cents worth:
The less-than-honorable is the key, not the connections.
The less-than-honorable is a FACT, which forces review of the connections.
If the stories get presented in the other order, the issue gets long-winded.
If that happens, Mr. "average citizen" (under forty) blows it off and turns on football.
Try this social experiment:
(a) tell people Kerry might have gotten a less-than-honorable, which precludes him from holding office.
(b) tell people Kerry had connections to Communist organizations.
There's a real marked difference in reactions. |
I agree. Without proof of the LTH Discharge noone would listen. |
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GiveMeFreedom
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:45 am Post subject: |
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geeeewwwhhiiiiizzzzz, this is incredibly scary for our country. I have been emailing this out & sending to friends....
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MJB
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:25 am Post subject: |
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I agree with y'all -
Hence...another reason to CALL YOUR SENATORS!
Yes, the word is getting out - and WE are going to keep pushing TODAY!
Since we got news of the documented link between John Kerry, the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, the anti-war movement and the communist North Vietnamese government early this week, I’ve been encouraging readers of this board to CALL THEIR SENATORS, among others.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41106
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41142
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41194
Now, the NY Sun article by Thomas Lipscomb is out...we have plenty of ammo...
My sister used to work for a couple of congressmen on Capitol Hill. Every Representative and Senator has a process in place to receive and process constituent phone calls.
KEY POINT: For every ONE phone call they get, staffers and the congressmen assume that anywhere from 10-100 other people feel the same way, but don’t take the time to call. Sooo…since so few people actually call, in proportion to the population at large, EACH phone call can be vitally important.
I believe it would be fair to say that our calls helped Sen Majority Leader Bill Frist get in touch with NavyChief last week…correct me if I’m wrong, NC.
Email is not as effective, since their in-boxes are overflowing right now. Plus, phone calls have that personal touch….
GUIDELINES:
Be polite, be specific, be as factual as possible.
Use the links and posts on the board to muster your collection of facts and information.
DO NOT share scripts between each other – they can smell ‘em a mile off and it greatly diminishes the impact of what you’re trying to do. This is personal….
DON’T expect to get a call back – that’s not what this is about. This is about pushing for them to TAKE ACTION! We want our voices to be heard in a collective fashion, versus having them try to keep track to who to call about what issues.
DON’T expect to change minds when you call the Democratic offices. Again, that’s not the purpose (although I’d love to be a fly on the wall if any of the Democratic staffers actually go to the web sites and read the evidence…). Our purpose is to get ACTION, and numbers is one way to get this issue over the “Tipping Point” (see: Malcolm Gladwell’s book, The Tipping Point). Once it tips, the tides rush in. We need to help make the tip happen….
WHY SENATORS?
The United States Congress is one the biggest ‘Ole Boys Network around. John Kerry has been part of that club for 20 years. You can bet that many, many people do not want to get involved in anything related to our mission.
They want it to GO AWAY - and we can see it happening. They want to stall, and dance, and twist, and avoid touching this. THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. They won’t rat out a fellow Senator unless extreme pressure is applied - and we are applying it!
However…power abhors a vaccum. The old military principal of "kick 'em when they're down" applies here. We need to keep kicking, and others will pile on it. If Kerry is trending negatively in the polls (and that's happening), and takes a big hit on Tuesday...let's see what happens 
WE ARE UNITED STATES CITIZENS. THE SENATE (and the House of Representatives) WORKS FOR US. ONE OF THEIR OWN HAS BEEN FOUND OUT. WE WANT THEM TO TAKE ACTION INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY. They will each be up for election one day – and the Pajamahadeen has loooong memories.
The Senate is the Big League (House members might disagree with me, but Senators get better offices!) – when they speak, the media tends to listen pretty well.
Your MARCHING ORDERS:
CALL BOTH OF YOUR STATE'S SENATORS. Republican, Democrat – doesn’t matter. You’re not debating them, you’re DEMANDING THEY TAKE ACTION on this issue.
CALL BOTH THEIR WASHINGTON D.C. OFFICES AND THEIR LOCAL CONGRESSIONAL OFFICES.
USE THIS WEB SITE TO FIND BOTH NUMBERS: http://congress.org/congressorg/home/
Congress is not in session, so don't expect them to be in Washington, D.C. They may very well be in their home districts or even in their local offices. Call both.
CALL SENATE MAJORITY LEADER (leader of the GOP's in the Senate) BILL FRIST (again. Keep up the pressure).
CALL BOTH HIS D.C. AND LOCAL TENNASSEE OFFICE:
202-224-3344
615-352-9411
THEN, CALL THE SENATE WHIP (#2 GOP man in the Senate) MITCH MCCONNELL - BOTH OFFICES
202-224-2541
502-582-6304
THEN, CALL THE WHITE HOUSE AND REGISTER YOUR DEEP CONCERN over this issue. Let the President and his team know we’re out here and we’re ANGRY.
202-456-1414
For good measure, if you're still in the mood to be feisty -
CALL SEN TED STEVEN'S (Senate President Pro Tempore - oversees the Senate when the VP isn't available) OFFICE
202-224-3004
907-271-5915
These are the key leaders in the Senate.
WE ARE UNITED STATES CITIZENS, MANY OF US VETERANS, WHO WANT ANSWERS. WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF PERSON JOHN KERRY IS AND WHAT HE'S HIDING. WE ARE ANGRY AND WE WANT ACCOUNTABILITY FROM OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES.
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GiveMeFreedom
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Uisguex Jack
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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That pardon only seems to cover those who were drafted.
This Iran thing mentioned up above is yet another mind blower.
How is it I never heard this on CBS?
http://www.krsi.net/news/Default.asp?PgNum=2#794 |
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Algesan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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No, that is what is making him a problem today. Word is that Kerry was given a pass on being prosecuted by Nixon to avoid giving the leftists a martyr. Nixon also had to deal with a CLM, look at Cronkite's current silliness.
What we are seeing is a reason to start a new news channel. CNN got a boom because they originally were real journalists instead of the alphabet soup CLM, then mutated into standard CLM themselves. This gave FoxNews its shot, but guess what, they also are mutating now. |
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