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drjohn · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject:

The Chief said to trust him.

I trust him.

I also believe things are the way they are right now for a reason.

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Debs · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject:

I don't know why NC stood down, but I trust his judgement, and he has said "a nice article is coming out Monday" that will make us "jump for joy." I believe the assertions NC have been proven to be correct - I don't know what the stand down was about, but I do believe the truth will be out by tomorrow - at least I hope and pray that is what this article is about.

I think we all share the frustration of seeing the MSM ignore anything negative about Kerry, as it totally infuriates me. And, I hope all this will come out tomorrow - NC has trusted the "powers that be" - I'll respect his judgement and be patient - and I hope they don't let him - and us - down.

Thanks, NC, for all your hard work, dedication, and perserverance - I believe your efforts will be rewarded and the truth will come out - at least I am hoping, trusting, and praying. NC, you're a true American patriot, and thank you for all you have done.

Debbie
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redwood · Ensign Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 61

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Stevie · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:30 pm Post subject:

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Sonar5 · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:48 pm Post subject: Mods...

Since Navy Chief has opened a new thread, perhaps it is best we close this one, just a thought.

Don't see much gaining for leaving this open.

Thanks,
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Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

Concur, thanks - moving to geedunk. :)
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lftrn97 · Seaman Recruit Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 20

I am in Atlanta and according to the Carer Library website they have a nearly complete reference section on all of this papers...is it possible that J F(ing) Kerry is named in the pardon? I'd be happy to hoof it down there it see if anyone htinks it's possible

ocsparky101 · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:03 am Post subject:

Just the fact that they are running interferance for Kerry is enough to do a letter writing campaign to the Secretary of the Navy and to Congress to get them to answer questions. Maybe the answers would come from the Chief from a supeonia. They then cannot interfer. They could be court marshalled immediately if they do not honor the Chief's requirement to tell the truth.

ProudDaughterofVet · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:40 am Post subject:

Whatever you need Chief, you got it..I trust you..let us know if or when you again need our help..amen and amen...

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Guest · Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:01 am Post subject:

Cheif,

You did your best and we are all grateful and sypathize with your "situation".

I guess it just takes so long to get the real truth out, seems so sad when lies seem to come so easy with no time at all.

We spend years sometimes fixing those lies back to the truth that is.

Your word is good enough for me. Never give up!

Mary Ann Parker · LCDR Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 406

I did get an "unofficial explanation" from a source close to
the President and his campaign.
He is an attorney and has been in the media himself.

Here is his reply to my urgent solicitations;
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Mary Ann

The story about the SECNAV is already in the mill.
Whether it gets any legs under it is uncertain.
Things like this breaking at the last
minute are always treated with suspicion even by friendly media.
They always ask why a major pronouncement by a SECNAV didn't come 30 days ago.
In any event, it is out of our hands at this point.
Jim
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PS.
I had many news outlets in all mediums accept my e-mail.

The ones that did not were:
O'Reilly @ Fox
NY Times

The story does/did have an effect. Never fear.
Make it a great day.
Mary Ann Parker

Ombre Rose

My regular board is posting this story from yesterday - wasn't online yesterday afternoon so I missed it then.

http://www.nysun.com/article/4040
Kerry's Discharge Is Questioned by an Ex-JAG Officer
BY THOMAS LIPSCOMB - Special to the Sun
November 1, 2004

.....
The absence of an honorable discharge certificate for a separated naval officer is, therefore, a harsh and severe sanction and is, in fact, the treatment given officers who are dismissed after a general court-martial."

With the only discharge document cited by Mr. Kerry issued in 1978, three years after the last date it should have been issued, the absence of a certificate from 1975 leaves only two possibilities. Either Mr. Kerry received an "other than honorable" certificate that has been removed in a review purging it from his records, or even worse, he received no certificate at all. In both cases there would have been a loss of all of Mr. Kerry's medals and the suspension of all benefits of service.

Certainly something was wrong as early as 1973 when Mr. Kerry was applying to law school.

Mr. Kerry has said, "I applied to Harvard, Boston University, and Boston College. I was extremely late. Only BC would entertain a late application."

It is hard to see why Mr. Kerry had to file an "extremely late" application since he lost the congressional race in Lowell, Mass., the first week of November 1972 and was basically doing nothing until he entered law school the following September of 1973.A member of the Harvard Law School admissions committee recalled that the real reason Mr. Kerry was not admitted was because the committee was concerned that because Mr. Kerry had received a less than honorable discharge they were not sure he could be admitted to any state bar.

The fact that Mr. Kerry had cancelled his candidacy for a Congressional seat in 1970 in favor of Father Robert Drinan cannot have hurt Mr. Kerry's admission to Boston College. The Reverend Robert Drinan's previous position was dean of the Boston College Law School.

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