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MACVJOE Ensign
Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 73 Location: Texan in Michigan
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:41 pm Post subject: The word IS getting out |
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Checkout http://powerlineblog.com/ Chiefs and everyone effort is making mainstrean Blogs _________________ Retired 86 Army
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MJB LCDR
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Beautiful, just beautiful. That's a big blog, all right _________________ MJB
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kate Admin
Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 1891 Location: Upstate, New York
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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have to admit, I have a hard time finding my way around these 'blogs'
I saw a couple links that both go to POW Paul Galanti's story
is there some other breaking news on there... ?
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RogerRabbit Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 748 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Click here
I saw a couple links that both go to POW Paul Galanti's story
is there some other breaking news on there... ? |
_________________ "Si vis pacem, para bellum" |
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Debs Lieutenant
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 228 Location: Lubbock, Texas
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soccer4ever Lieutenant
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Powerline is read by 200,000 people per day! _________________ Share the passion: http://www.MLSnet.com |
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Spiess Lieutenant
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 246
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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LOL GREAT! |
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whuffo Seaman Recruit
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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soccer4ever wrote: | Powerline is read by 200,000 people per day! |
Yes but unfortunately, 199,500 of them are already in the choir. Unless somehow MSM (at least Fox) picks this up, it won't make much of a dent. |
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Marquis Lt.Jg.
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Here is the correct link:
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/008364.php#008364
News on Kerry's Discharge?
I can't count the number of emails we've gotten from readers on the apparent mystery surrounding John Kerry's discharge from the Navy. There has been suspicion, but no hard evidence, that his original discharge was less than honorable, and that is why he refuses to make his military records public.
It appears that the Swift Boat Vets may finally have broken through on this issue:
Okay, folks.
We got it finally. We have the Former Secretary of the Navy who stated, "Yes, Kerry did receive an Other Than Honorable Discharge".
Stay tuned for more...
We know nothing more, and I have no way to assess the credibility of this report. So far, however, the Vets' track record is very good.
UPDATE: As you probably know by now, the Vets' post has been pulled. No idea what this means, or whether the whole thing has any significance. I will say this, though: this item and the "Osama" video are reminders that a lot could still happen between now and Tuesday.
It is time for all of us to send these links and info to DRUDGE!!!
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Marquis Lt.Jg.
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:17 am Post subject: |
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And while we are at it, why not have John O'Neil put this forward in an interview, or TV ad!!!
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angelnoel Seaman
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 174 Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Bet we need $$$ for John to do this. MY personal check is in the Braden River, FL PO in the morning. |
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angelnoel Seaman
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 174 Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:28 am Post subject: |
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EXCUSE ME Morning is Nov 1, 2004 |
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Aristotle The Hun PO1
Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 488 Location: Naples FL
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:31 am Post subject: |
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I use Web Ferret as a search program because it automatically searches 17 search engines at the same time. I used the "remove duplicate URLs" setting, selected "exact phrase" and searched "Kerry dishonorable discharge" and got 112 hits.
The word is definitely getting out.
Sam _________________ Deportè Monsieur Kerrè |
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Marquis Lt.Jg.
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:46 am Post subject: |
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WAIT, THERE'S MORE!!!
http://www.rushonline.com/kerry/dishonorabledischarge.htm
"Never suppose that in any possible situation, or under any circumstances, it is best for you to do a dishonorable thing..." --Thomas Jefferson
"Reporting for duty"? For a guy who's hitched his entire presidential campaign to his military service record, John Kerry sure is parsimonious when it comes to releasing that record. As noted in this column on more than one occasion, Kerry has consistently refused to sign a Standard Form 180 authorizing the Department of Defense to release all of his records.
George W. Bush's military records were so spotless that Dan Rather gleefully trotted out some fabricated documents in order to kick up a little dust. Of course, if Rather were a real journalist rather than just a TV talking head, he might actually develop a source who could find out what the remaining (approximately 100) pages in Kerry's DoD service jacket reveal.
What, exactly, is Kerry hiding? It is already common knowledge that most of his celebrated heroics were spurious, and that most of his medals were without merit (see "Kerry's Quagmire" at http://FederalistPatriot.US/alexander/ ). But given that the cat's already out of the bag, why not just sign the Standard Form 180?
For his part, Kerry claims he received an "Honorable Discharge" and that all his records have been released and are posted on his website, Kerry-04.com -- uh, make that JohnKerry.com. But Kerry has refused to say when he received an Honorable Discharge. Indeed, some of his military records are posted on his site -- but not all of them. Here, an experienced eye can read enough into what has been released by Kerry to develop a good profile of what hasn't been released.
It is our considered opinion, therefore, that John Kerry was separated from the military under a less than honorable discharge.
Among Kerry's released records is a 1977 cover letter from Jimmy Carter's Navy Secretary, W. Graham Claytor. What is revealing about this document is that it notes Kerry's original discharge was subject to review by a "board of officers" -- yet no such review should be necessary for an Honorable Discharge.
The review was conducted in accordance with "Title 10, U.S. Code Section 1162 and 1163," which pertains to grounds for involuntary separation from military service.
As many Vietnam veterans who served their nation with dignity and honor will recall, Jimmy Carter's first official act as president was the signing of Executive Order 4483 --less than an hour after his inauguration on 21 January 1977. EO 4483 provided general amnesty for draft evaders, war protesters and other offenders of that era. Its corresponding, and equally dubious, DoD directive took effect in March of 1977, expanding that amnesty to include separation from military service by other than honorable discharges. The DoD specified an appeal procedure whereby discharges could be reviewed on an individual basis to determine whether the status of a particular discharge could be revised.
Having lost his first bid for Congress, Kerry no doubt decided that his political future would be brighter as a war hero rather than a war protestor. While there are several categories of discharges beneath honorable, including general, medical, bad conduct and other than honorable, it is very likely that Kerry's discharge was dishonorable.
Supporting this assertion is the fact that Kerry had all his medals mysteriously reinstated in 1985. He claims that he lost his medal certificates (perhaps these are what he famously threw over that Capitol fence in protest), but when a military officer is subject to a Dishonorable Discharge, in addition to the loss of pay benefits and allowances, all medals and honors are revoked. In any case, it would be a cinch for John Kerry to refute our claim by simply signing that Standard Form 180. But he won't. Nor will hard-hitting journalists like Katie Couric and Dr. Phil press him on this issue.
Thus, while Kerry can correctly say -- thanks to Jimmy Carter -- that he received an Honorable Discharge, he could also say with equal precision that he received "other than honorable discharge." His activities as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War were, indeed, forgiven by Carter's EO 4483 and the subsequent DoD directive.
However, according to legal scholars, John Kerry's meetings with enemy agents from Communist North Vietnam on multiple occasions between 1970 and 1972 are not covered under EO 4483. For that reason, we delivered to U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft on Monday of this week a "Petition for Investigation and Indictment," calling on the Department of Justice to determine conclusively whether Kerry's actions, in direct violation of UCMJ (Article 104 part 904), U.S. Code (18 USC Sec. 2381 and 18 USC Sec. 953) and other applicable laws and acts of Congress, constitute treason. (To read the text of the petitioners' request, go to http://patriotpetitions.us/kerry/letter.asp ) |
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angelnoel Seaman
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 174 Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:55 am Post subject: |
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GO! GO! GO! Cannot wait to read what happens next! Other than your success with this is my only wish SOMETHING happens soon! TY! |
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