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IamHG
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I agree that he will never admit he was ever wrong on ANYTHING, however I mantain that he will have no choice but to admit defeat by midnight. I have seen it in the stars 
Ofcourse he will ride off into the sunset with his arse still smoldering from the swiftvet ads 
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Islander
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Rasmussen has the final: Bush 50.2% and Kerry 48.6%
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breezy
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Bush Job Approval
Date Approve Disapprove
Today 52.3 47.0
Nov 1 50.7 48.6
Oct 31 50.8 48.6
Election 2004
Date Bush Kerry
FINAL 50.2 48.5
Nov 1 48.8 47.4
Oct 31 48.1 47.1
Oct 30 47.9 47.1
Oct 29 48.7 46.7
Oct 28 48.9 46.9
Oct 27 48.8 47.1
Oct 26 47.8 47.8
Oct 25 46.4 48.4
Oct 24 47.6 47.2
Oct 23 48.0 46.7
Oct 22 49.1 45.9
Oct 21 48.8 46.2
Earlier Results for
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Dates are release dates
Surveys conducted on preceding three nights
RasmussenReports.com
you guys thats it ... their final poll and this is a poll that hugged kerry all summer ..
its going to Bush ..
i believe with all my heart
alright i am to vote and work the polls here on the cape ..
god bless each you and yours and god bless GW BUSH ...
lets give hime 4 more ...
wow wow today is the day  |
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Tom Poole
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GiveMeFreedom
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| BenJaxBchFL wrote: | Okay let me try:
1)Gender - Gore had 14 point advantage Kerry has 3
2)Black vote - Gore had 90 points Kerry has 69. Bush had 9 points in 2000 now has 18 points
3)25 million evangelicals did not vote in 2000. With the possibility of 4 Supreme Court appointees on the line Jerry Farwell has made it very clear to a couple of thousand congregations what the implications are.
4)Youth vote - this is what the Dems are praying for. Joe Scarborough just reminded tonight's panel about the disapointment of the young vote. It goes like this: three hours in line to vote or Sue Ann wants to know if I'm coming over.
5)Rally crowd sizes - I don't know about you but Bush has been having rallies in stadiums and Kerry has been having his in gymnasiums.
6)Hispanic vote - typically this has been 80/20 Dem but if New Mexico is a gauge then the highly respected Alberquerqe poll has it 59/32 Dems.
7)Despite Dems claims that Repubs were using 30,000 attorneys to harrass voters the higher courts are continuing to overrule lower courts who want to deviate from the law. Courts are permitting the valid challenges when voter fraud is shown to be present. In other words, we ain't getting steamrolled.
 I say Bush wins 327 to 211 |
If I may add to your list:
9) 1.5 South Vietnamese Americans that hate Kerry for what he did.
10) The Amish vote in PA, Ohio, and other states that the Kerry campaign forgot about.
11) 20% more Jewish vote going to Bush this year, and thousands more Israeli-Americans registered in Israel to vote this year (for Bush).
And lastly - they have underestimated the impact of the Swift Boat Veterans!
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jstoc
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:42 pm Post subject: Harris where? |
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| drjohn wrote: | This from Polipundit:
SURVEYUSA CORRECTION IN PENNSYLVANIA
SurveyUSA’s final poll was not 51%-47% Kerry as I reported earlier. It is only 49%-48% Kerry. President Bush is surging and surging fast in Pennsylvania. That’s why I will be working with the Bush campaign tomorrow!
The final Harris Poll has President Bush up 49%-45%.
Meanwhile President Bush is also surging in Florida and Ohio. |
Please direct me to your source for the latest Harris Poll result. It sounds encouraging, and I'd like to see it!
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jstoc
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:18 pm Post subject: the lateste Harris Poll |
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Just located the latest Harris Poll site. Their latest and final telephone poll has Bush at 49 and Kerry at 48. Their online poll has Kerry ahead, but online polls are universally discredited as not representative of the general voting public. Likewise, their online polls for swing states that give Kerry a very slight lead in FL, OH, and PA. To repeat what has been said elsewhere already, Zogby, the admitted leftists Kerry supporter, gives Ohio to Bush this morning. This news will surely descourage the Dems, and that's great. Zogby also is using exit polls of early voters in Florida, which will automatically skew the result. Remember, exit polls on election day itself in 2000 proved to be so inaccurate that newsfolks relying on them for their predictions got Florida all wrong! Responsible polls, i.e., telephone sampling, puts Florida in Bush's hands, even if slightly. They don't want to say it yet, partly because they want to pump up viewership, but the news wags will end up seeing Florida go Bush this year, and, with Ohio, that will settle this election. Yahooo!
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peach
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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over2000 votes were found in Philly voting machines prior to the polls opening. I found this on the drudgereport.com. However no other information available. Shouldn't they be able to tell who put them there, democrats or republicans?
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Uisguex Jack
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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I predict within five minutes someone from the MSM and another from the DNC will be explaining away the innocence of this 'accident'.
Don't forget about Kerry's brother getting arrested for election sabotage 12 hours before the polls opened.
| Quote: | Filmmaker Otto Preminger, author George Plimpton, composer Leonard Bernstein, and other celebrities backed Kerry, who spent $279,746 on the primary and general election. The fifth district was the most expensive congressional race in the country that year.
To win the primary, the newcomer overcame the election eve arrest of his brother, Cameron, and campaign field director Thomas J. Vallely, both then 22, in the basement of a Lowell building that housed the headquarters of Kerry and another Democratic contender, state Representative Anthony R. DiFruscia of Lawrence. It was almost 2 a.m. - 30 hours before the polls opened - when the two were arrested on charges of breaking and entering with intent to commit larceny. |
http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/061803.shtml
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Hondo
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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My take: close popular, not so close electoral.
Popular:
B - 50.5%
K - 48.5%
N - 1.0%
Electoral
B - 315
K - 228
N - 0
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Kimmymac
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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No feel, here.
I am past speculating, and have moved into the nervous anticipation phase. If I had to say, I would say I *feel* a Bush victory is a sure thing, but then you have to factor in the 15 points the OIM gave Kerry...and the fraud...and the next thing you know the butterflies in my stomach are doing Mach 1 fly-bys, 50 yards off the deck.
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mangdawg
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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i have a feeling that this OTH story damaged kerry so late in the game that the polls didn't reflect it.
i think the polls are going to be out of any future equations. they will need to evaluate the net in future predictions. |
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minnie presley
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject: elections |
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| I have not slept for the last 2 nights, my mood is up and own ,candles lit since saturday and praying, thank god for this site, when I am on I feel better , then i see these polss and start to get nervious again |
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carpro
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: elections |
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| minnie presley wrote: | | I have not slept for the last 2 nights, my mood is up and own ,candles lit since saturday and praying, thank god for this site, when I am on I feel better , then i see these polss and start to get nervious again |
As they say:
It ain't over till it's over.
Trust. 
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Wit
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| Theresa Alwood wrote: | I doubt we will see Kerry admit defeat....I just do not see that happening. I see Kerry as being one who will never, ever admit he was wrong.
Protect America...VOTE BUSH. |
Here is a post I found on another site.
John Kerry: Sea Lawyer
In Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary (Tenth Edition), a sea lawyer is
defined as an argumentative captious sailor. As one who has served aboard a
number of U.S Navy ships in various assignments including commanding officer,
I would like to expand that definition. A sea lawyer is someone who knows
all the rules. He knows them so thoroughly that he can always find a loop
hole, a reason to justify any action or inaction. He can rationalize anything,
citing chapter and verse when necessary.
A sea lawyer also is a master at telling his listeners what they want to hear.
He will describe the same action or event differently to his seniors, his peers,
and his subordinates. The difference is not in the substance but in the shading
of what he says, and always in such a way as to justify whatever it is that he
has done. When something goes wrong, it was never his fault. But most of all
a sea lawyer knows the rules so well that he can exploit any loophole to his
personal advantage. For example, every Viet Nam vet that I questioned did not
know that they could request a transfer if they had been awarded three Purple
Hearts. Admittedly, my sample size is small, but it includes, among others, a
high school classmate who flew Navy helo's in Viet Nam and a Naval Academy
classmate who was skipper of a Swift Boat about the same time as John Kerry.
None of them knew about the three Purple Heart rule, but John Kerry knew.
Senator Kerry claims that he anguished over his decision to request a transfer
back to a shore assignment in the United States, but the facts are that within
four days of his third purple heart, his request was in Washington.
Commanding Officers and unit commanders don't care much for sea lawyers. They
may be reasonably effective in their job, but overall they are a burden. Given
an opportunity to transfer a sea lawyer, they usually do it rather than trying
to persuade the individual to remain aboard. Perhaps that is why Lieutenant
Kerry's request was forwarded so quickly, and why at least one of his fellow
officers encouraged him to make the request. It is very revealing that apparently
no one tried to talk him out of it. Could it be they were glad to see him go?
A typical characteristic of a sea lawyer is looking out for number one. They
are self-centered. Now, every sailor, enlisted or commissioned, has to look
out for his or her own interests, but in the Navy there is a loyalty to one's
shipmates. It is a bond that cannot be described in civilian terms. There is
no civilian equivalent to the word shipmate. This bond is weaker, and in some
cases nonexistent in a sea lawyer.
The bond of shipmates is particularly unique in one who commands a ship, no
matter how large or how small. When their tour is complete, Commanding
Officers leave their ship with a certain poignancy that cannot be described.
I can personally attest to this I did not want to leave my crew when it was
my turn to go, even though I had enjoyed the position for three and a half years.
Yet Lt. John Kerry asked to leave his crew after a few weeks. In my opinion, in
true sea lawyerly fashion, he abandoned his crew.
It is fascinating to compare Senator John Kerry's Viet Nam service with that
of another senator who also served in Viet Nam, Senator John McCain. He was
shot down over North Viet Nam in October 1967 and captured by the North
Vietnamese. He was severely injured and for a time his survival was in
doubt, but he survived despite broken bones and internal injuries.
Senator McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Commander-in-Chief
Pacific and his area of responsibility included Viet Nam. The North Vietnamese
running the prison knew this, and in June 1968, they offered to let McCain
go home.
It would be a great propaganda piece for the North Vietnamese. For McCain
it was a moral dilemma. The U.S. Code of Conduct requires that prisoners of
war only accept release in the order in which they were captured First In
First Out inventory control! There were many POW's who had been there much
longer and McCain was torn. However, by their interpretation of the Code, a
prisoner could accept an early release if he had serious health problem. McCain
was a physical wreck, so he anguished over the decision. Three days later, the
Commander of all POW camps in North Viet Nam, nicknamed "The Cat" by the
Americans, asked McCain his decision. McCain said No.
The Cat asked if that was his final decision and McCain said it was. The Cat
then said, as related by Baltimore Sun reporter Bob Timberg in his book John
McCain: an American Odyssey, They taught you too well, McCain, they taught you
too well. As a direct result of this refusal to accept release, John McCain
was tortured severely, a result he could see coming.
The contrast between these two United States Senator is striking.
Many conservatives do not care for Senator McCain's independence, but no one
can deny that he was a genuine hero with a lot guts. And he was no sea lawyer!
He refused to abandon his fellow POW's.
Senator Kerry claims that he was brave and resolute in his four months in Viet
Nam. His supporters say he was a hero. Whether he was or not, I cannot say.
I wasn't there. But the majority of those who were there, the Swifties, say
very strongly that he was not. Heroics and bravery aside, I can conclude, both
from the way he abandoned his shipmates, his slanderous remarks about his fellow
veterans, and his inconsistencies as a presidential candidate, John Kerry is a
real sea lawyer.
If John Kerry is elected president, I wonder how he will handle his first crisis.
Will he face it and deal with it, or will he waltz around it and explain how it
isn't his fault? Will he hang tough or will he once again abandon his crew?
This question is not trivial, because the crew he might abandon includes us!
John Patten
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