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xsquid
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The early returns on the Edwards pick – taken wart and all – is that it’s a big bust.


I'm kind of thinking the pairing of two so far left may motivate even disgruntled republicans to go with bush anyway due to the "leftness of these two" and very moderate democrats toward bush, who is actually pretty moderate.

Maybe I'm just hoping though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And quite possibly it also might drive some of the more moderate or centerist democrats to the republican side. Not all democrats like or approve of Kerry and Edwards, and also not all democrats hate President George W. Bush, and want their side to win at all costs just to beat Bush!

Just a thought!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerry-Edwards More Liberal Than Mondale-Ferraro
By Susan Jones
CNSNews.com Morning Editor
July 07, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - It's official, the Republican National Committee said on Wednesday. The Kerry-Edwards ticket has made history, because it is more liberal than the 1984 Mondale-Ferraro team, based on ratings from the liberal Americans for Democratic Action.

The ADA gave Democrat Walter Mondale a lifetime rating of 90 percent, the RNC noted, while John Kerry's lifetime ADA rating is 92 percent.

Mondale's running mate Geraldine Ferraro received a 79 percent lifetime ADA rating, while John Edwards' lifetime ADA rating is 81 percent.

Americans for Democratic Action says it judges politicians' liberal tendencies, based on 20 key votes on a wide range of social and economic issues, both domestic and international.


"Since ADA's founding in 1947, the Annual Voting Records have served as the standard measure of political liberalism," the group's website says.

Americans for Democratic Action has "enthusiastically" endorsed John F. Kerry for president, noting that Kerry will raise the federal minimum wage; reverse "tax cuts for the wealthy"; "return U.S. foreign policy to its historical roots in human rights and multilateralism"; bar privatization of Social Security; and "respect the constitutional separation of church and state."

"The presidential election of 2004 presents the most significant choice American voters will make in their lifetime," the group says on its website. "ADA pledges to work actively and vigorously to ensure John F. Kerry's election."
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: Nokona - DOES NOT KNOW LAWYERS VERY WELL Reply with quote

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ARE YOU SERIOUS WITH THAT RE EDWARDS THOUGHT? Have you ever worked in a law firm? Have you ever worked in the system in any capacity? Oh how I could go on, but since you obviously know nothing whatsoever about attorneys, there is no point. Hmmm, then again, maybe it's just that you have a pending lawsuit yourself!



I'm going to be polite about this, because you are a lady. However, if you speak to me like that again, I will not be.


Yes. I have worked in a law firm. I have also argued at the the trial and apellate level. And no, I am not interested in your qualifications, nor will I entertain further questions about mine.

Your misconceptions about the legal system; the way it works and the people in it; are numerous. However, that is not my problem, it is yours. I point it out so that you may take the trouble to better educate yourself, should you be so inclined.

You may now have the last word, should you wish it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are more of a diplomat than I Nakona. Must be the Irish/Indian blood in me. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Nokona - DOES NOT KNOW LAWYERS VERY WELL Reply with quote

Since your response contained a great deal of assumptions I am going to let it stand on its own. Apparently, you missed the "assume" lesson in first year.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least Edwards is reeeeeeeeeeeal cute. And he has that wonderful Carolina accent! But he's a real lightweight when it comes to bringing in votes and I understand he took the right turn blinker out of all of his vehicles. Like Kerry.

Being a dumbcrat, we already know he's anti-business. Since any corporation is closely akin to being the anti Christ, its perfectly fitting that he would be a lawyer that made his fortune demonizing insurance companys or any company that sold envelopes to someone in the asbestos business, etc. Because of ambulance chasers like Edwards, I'm thinking about leaving instructions to my family to sue J.C. Penny in the event of my death. It had to be all those damn clothes! Wink

Anyway, the problem is not just another greedy lawyer, the problem is stupid juries that allow themselves to be unduly influenced by greedy lawyers.

Remember , he's a dumbcrat. Never take personal responsibility when you can blame another person or , even better, an evil corporation. Those cigarettes made me smoke 'em and that gun manufacturer made me buy the gun and the ammo and load it and shoot that burglar with it. Whose family is now suing me because I shot the thieving bas&#** . Very Happy

Seriously folks, Edwards is just more of the same. He's just better looking and we should ALL empathize with him because he and his wife have lost a child. At least, the media thinks it's important that we know that. Wonder why? Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ASPB,, ask and it shall be given.

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In Robbins the family prospered. Wallace Edwards became a manager at the local Milliken mill, and Bobbie ran her own antique refinishing business out of a roadside shop. His father later left the mill, at odds with his bosses' constantly preferring college graduates over him, and Bobbie became a postal letter carrier so that the family would have health insurance.

On the campaign trail today, the senator regularly describes himself as the son of a mill worker but rarely if ever notes that his father was part of management. ``They weren't quite as humble as Edwards makes it sound,'' says Pat Smith of Robbins. ``Wallace was a very important man at the mill. ... They weren't rich, but they weren't struggling poor.''

``John was more middle class than most of us,'' says Bill Garner, a high school friend and college roommate.


The Boston Globe


I have read one site state that Little Johnny was born in Seneca, SC (which is true), Seneca, NC (no such city), and Robbins, North Carolina (where his father joined the 'middle class'. This guy is gonna trip on one of his lies at some point. I can't wait until that happens!! Smile

Gentleman Johnny has this year to date received more than 9 million dollars (of the 19 million total received in election year cylce 2004) from
lawyers and lobbyists. And TO WHOM will he be beholden?????

Hang on to your hats, boys and girls.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="MikeWinn"]ASPB,, ask and it shall be given.
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Gentleman Johnny has this year to date received more than 9 million dollars (of the 19 million total received in election year cylce 2004) from
lawyers and lobbyists. And TO WHOM will he be beholden????/quote]

And now on top of all us Vets against Kerry, theoretically there should be
a "soccermomsagainst Kerry" website, now that he's acquired the new baggage.....
"As a result of [John Edwards'] lawsuits, there are now more than four times as many Caesarean sections as there were in 1970. But curiously, there has been no change in the rate of babies born with cerebral palsy. As The New York Times reported: "Studies indicate that in most cases, the disorder is caused by fetal brain injury long before labor begins." All those Caesareans have, however, increased the mother's risk of death, hemorrhage, infection, pulmonary embolism and Mendelson's syndrome."

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've got one anti-war activist (Traitor), and one trial lawyer (ambulance chaser). Plus they both are left of Teddy Kennedy and Hillary Clinton!

Can you say 'socialist losers'?

I knew that you could!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Careful, H3, in talking about Little Johnny. You see, being from and living in South Carolina, we poor dumb southerners know a lot more than you ever will about Little Johnny. You can support him all you want, that's your right, but folks who know him and of him, if pushed, will start to pull the facade back. And, defending people against powerful corporations?? How about finding out a bit more about the lawsuits against OB/GYN's he has
'championed' concerning 'birth defects' or maybe about the 30 times he has had to pay delinquent taxes on his Raleigh home and cars over the past 10 years. Yes, my friend, take great care on talking up a local boy
here. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to laugh when the talking heads on CNN say that John Edwards will help Kerry win in the south. These folks have been watching way to many Andy Griffith reruns on TV Land.

I was born in the North - but I've lived down here long enough to know that my county here in North FL (which is really Southern Georgia) will vote the same way it did in the last Presidential election....4-1 for President Bush. JE is a lightweight and the fact that he has a sugary southern drawl and gentlemanly demeanor will mean squat come election time. The more I think about this ticket - the more I like it. A liberal North Easterner and a wanna-be country bumpkin with no experience - what more could you want.....
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people are commenting on the fact that they can't keep their hands off each other. AOL News (sorry, it pops up every time I sign on) ran five photos of the two either hugging, holding hands or patting each other on the back. I'm not saying they are weird, I'm saying that it seems like they are trying way too hard to show the voters that they are the perfect team.
The same news source last week said that Edwards was not Kerry's first choice since he did not meet any of the criteria that Kerry had established for a running mate.
I read a post last week (either here or on Top 10 Weasels) that said that higher-ups in the DNC insisted on Edwards because they felt he could bring in more votes from the rural areas where Kerry comes off looking like a snobbish rich yankee.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

garb1015 wrote:

where Kerry comes off looking like a snobbish rich yankee.


Are you trying to say John Kerry is not a snobbish rich damnYankee? Confused

Wouldn't it be very difficut for him come across as anything else? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JN173 wrote:
garb1015 wrote:

where Kerry comes off looking like a snobbish rich yankee.


Are you trying to say John Kerry is not a snobbish rich damnYankee? Confused

Wouldn't it be very difficut for him come across as anything else? Laughing


A sneering down his Lurch-like nose at his self-perceived inferiors in the socio-political underclass that happen to believe in Jeffersonian individual liberty instead of elitist controlled marxism for the proletariat.
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