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Inatizzy
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 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject: Zogby makes a CYA statement! |
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This is pathetic. Look at this statement by Zogby. I told you he was stupid to project a Kerry victory so early. His partisanship has cost him all his credibility.
Link: http://www.zogby.com/ |
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Trickworm
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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He can say what he wants, but he is on the record as stating kerry would win. "The undecideds always brak for the challenger." Remember that?
LOL
Him and the reast of those with there preelection and exit polls.
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peter
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He should NEVER and I mean NEVER by listened too again. He is a total and complete joke.
He gambled big time and lost.
He will never have any credibility again. |
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Inatizzy
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| peter wrote: | He should NEVER and I mean NEVER by listened too again. He is a total and complete joke.
He gambled big time and lost.
He will never have any credibility again. |
I'm so glad you've seen the light Peter. Sorry I came down on you yesterday. Hope you've learned that the MSM is NEVER to be trusted. It's a great day for truth, liberty and the American way.  |
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Steve Z
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: Zogby "concession" |
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Statement from John Zogby on 2004 Presidential Election Results:
| Quote: | | “We feel strongly that our pre-election polls were accurate on virtually every state. Our predictions on many of the key battleground states like Ohio and Florida were within the margin of error. I thought we captured a trend, but apparently that result didn’t materialize." |
Say what?
http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerryspot.asp
| Quote: | Here are the Zogby vs. real numbers. Done. De-mythed. 2000 was a fluke. He has no pulse on the nation.
Arizona
Zogby had it +6% for Bush
Final +11% for Bush
Arkansas
Zogby had it +3% for Bush
Final +9% for Bush
Colorado
Zogby had it too close to call
Final +7% for Bush
Florida
Zogby had it +.1% for Kerry and trending Kerry
Final +5% for Bush
Iowa
Zogby had it +5% for Kerry
Final still TBD
Michigan
Zogby had it +6% for Kerry
Final Result +3% for Kerry
Minnesota
Zogby had it +6% for Kerry
Final Result +3% for Kerry
Missouri
Zogby had it +3% for Bush
Final Result +8% for Bush
Nevada
Zogby had it too close to call
Final +3% for Bush
New Hampshire
Zogby had it +5% for Kerry
Final Result +1% for Kerry
New Mexico
Zogby had it +3% for Kerry
Final - still TBD
North Carolina
Zogby had it +3% for Bush
Final +13% for Bush
Oregon
Zogby had it +10% for Kerry
Final Result +5% for Kerry
Ohio
Zogby had it +2% for Bush but trending Kerry
Final TBD
Pennsylvania
Zogby had it trending Kerry
Final Result +3% for Kerry
Tennessee
Zogby had it +4% for Bush
Final +14% for Bush
Virginia
Zogby had it slight edge for Bush
Final +8% for Bush
Washington
Zogby had it +10% for Kerry
Final Result +7% for Kerry
West Virginia
Zogby had it +4% for Bush
Final +14% for Bush
Wisconsin
Zogby had it +6% for Kerry
Final Result +1% for Kerry |
Out of 19 states, Zogby either understated the Bush lead, or overstated a Kerry lead, by an average of 5.4 points. He called two states (IA and NM) the wrong way. He called four ties (FL, CO, NV, and VA) which were clear wins for Bush (+5, +7, +3, +8, respectively). His polls are 5 points to the left of reality.
Why don't we just throw Zogby polls and exit polls into the same trash bin as Kerry after-action reports?
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Digger
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ZOGBY??? ACHTUNG MINEN  Man some of these sites are really dirty. I just went to the Zogby site and got filled up with so many pop ups that I had to shut down and restart to clean out my machine.
Talk about contaminated, ""yaaaahhh"" I still have to do a spy sweep.
Even my body itches now. I feel like I just rolled in a bed of fleas 
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sleeplessinseattle
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Send Zogby a letter!
I send him one and had it copied and then lost the copy...but essentially it said, he'd lost his reputation due to his partisan hackery and that he would not regain it...I advised him to take other work - outside polling, which requires a modicum of objectivity...
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frankzzz
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Location: New Hampshire
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Too little; too late. |
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msindependent
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Location: Colorado
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Zogby is finished. |
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GoEagles
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Location: Philadelphia
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Zogby "concession" |
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| Steve Z wrote: | Statement from John Zogby on 2004 Presidential Election Results:
| Quote: | | “We feel strongly that our pre-election polls were accurate on virtually every state. Our predictions on many of the key battleground states like Ohio and Florida were within the margin of error. I thought we captured a trend, but apparently that result didn’t materialize." |
Say what?
http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerryspot.asp
| Quote: | Here are the Zogby vs. real numbers. Done. De-mythed. 2000 was a fluke. He has no pulse on the nation.
Arizona
Zogby had it +6% for Bush
Final +11% for Bush
Arkansas
Zogby had it +3% for Bush
Final +9% for Bush
Colorado
Zogby had it too close to call
Final +7% for Bush
Florida
Zogby had it +.1% for Kerry and trending Kerry
Final +5% for Bush
Iowa
Zogby had it +5% for Kerry
Final still TBD
Michigan
Zogby had it +6% for Kerry
Final Result +3% for Kerry
Minnesota
Zogby had it +6% for Kerry
Final Result +3% for Kerry
Missouri
Zogby had it +3% for Bush
Final Result +8% for Bush
Nevada
Zogby had it too close to call
Final +3% for Bush
New Hampshire
Zogby had it +5% for Kerry
Final Result +1% for Kerry
New Mexico
Zogby had it +3% for Kerry
Final - still TBD
North Carolina
Zogby had it +3% for Bush
Final +13% for Bush
Oregon
Zogby had it +10% for Kerry
Final Result +5% for Kerry
Ohio
Zogby had it +2% for Bush but trending Kerry
Final TBD
Pennsylvania
Zogby had it trending Kerry
Final Result +3% for Kerry
Tennessee
Zogby had it +4% for Bush
Final +14% for Bush
Virginia
Zogby had it slight edge for Bush
Final +8% for Bush
Washington
Zogby had it +10% for Kerry
Final Result +7% for Kerry
West Virginia
Zogby had it +4% for Bush
Final +14% for Bush
Wisconsin
Zogby had it +6% for Kerry
Final Result +1% for Kerry |
Out of 19 states, Zogby either understated the Bush lead, or overstated a Kerry lead, by an average of 5.4 points. He called two states (IA and NM) the wrong way. He called four ties (FL, CO, NV, and VA) which were clear wins for Bush (+5, +7, +3, +8, respectively). His polls are 5 points to the left of reality.
Why don't we just throw Zogby polls and exit polls into the same trash bin as Kerry after-action reports? |
Thanks Steve Z - I've sent that analysis to a bunch of people I know. It's very important for people to remember Zogby's horrible performance in this election.
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Jack Mclaughlin
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| I think some of George Soros money made its way into the coffers of the Zogby boys. |
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Lily
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| One of the side benefits of Bush's victory was seeing Zogby totally discredited along with the old media. |
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Redview
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Joined: 11 Aug 2004
Posts: 88
Location: indiana
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: soros |
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Soros said he would join a monestary if President Bush won.
I wonder when he goes. |
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ccr
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Assuming a MOE of +/- 4%, Zogs missed outside the MOE on 13 of 19!
Do you have any idea how much work it is to be that wrong?
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joeshero
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Location: Midwest
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Zogby is finished!!
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