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FreeFall LCDR
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:23 am Post subject: Will Kerry be a Factor in 2008? |
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I'm curious to what you others think. I think he won't be since the Dems seem to dump whoever runs and loses. What do you all think?
Also who do you think WILL be a factor in 2008? There's Hilary of course, but I don't think she has a snowballs chance in hell of winning.
I think Rudi Guiliani will be a factor in 2008 on the Republican side. |
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Hellfire Seaman Recruit
Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 24 Location: The deathstar
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:32 am Post subject: |
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Good question. It seems the dems throw their losers into the chipper. Look what happened to Algore, he was reduced to a raving madman. kerry "could" try and be an attack dog in '08, but I think now that the Swift vets and vets in general have a good Battlesight Zero on his silly ass he won't be poking his head up anytime soon. _________________ All your base are belong to us.
Kerry delenda est. Omnes cum studio clamabant
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Tex Seaman Apprentice
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:33 am Post subject: |
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I doubt it. He'll be, what, 64 or 65 then?
Hopefully by 2008, Kerry will be totally exposed as the fraud that he is. _________________ "If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness." -- Theodore Roosevelt |
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crockspot Seaman Recruit
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 29 Location: Lake Champlain
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:41 am Post subject: |
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I expect Kerry to be serving a sentence for treason by 2008.
Hillary will definitely try. Maybe Obama too. Too early for me to think of anyone else. They seem to find someone at the last minute. Maybe the Dems will come to their senses and put up Lieberman.
On the Rep side, there's plenty of good choices: Jeb, Colin, Condi, Rudy... _________________ Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
-- H. L. Mencken |
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PhD candidate Former Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:49 am Post subject: |
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crockspot wrote: | I expect Kerry to be serving a sentence for treason by 2008.
Hillary will definitely try. Maybe Obama too. Too early for me to think of anyone else. They seem to find someone at the last minute. Maybe the Dems will come to their senses and put up Lieberman.
On the Rep side, there's plenty of good choices: Jeb, Colin, Condi, Rudy... |
I would discount 2 of those.
colin powell has said he is not coming back for a second term.
and I seriously doubt that this country is ready for a woman president of any race, for either party. |
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BPC69 Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Hopefully Kerry will be in jail or being poked in the butt with a pitch fork. Other than that, I'd anticipate zero factor.
Others that will be players aside from the Billary team include, Howard Dean who might revitalize his message and reorganize his rebel roots and take lead of the liberal wing, Obama (or however you spell it) he's going to get a lot of pub and could be involved in some sort of fast track deal (already being fast tracked to senior status in terms of senator from Illinois and committee appts.), aside from those two I'd have to say Russ Feingold & Chuck Schumer from the US Senate are up there as strong contenders.
Other than them, not much to choose from. The democrats would need to look to the south for developing someone like a Bill Clinton II that is moderate and compasionate that could draw in the bible belt and pacify the liberal base. Not much out there for them in that regard these days that I see. But there's really not much reason to talk about this because all marbles are going into the one bag and darnit she just had to move to my state and become my senator too.
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sleeplessinseattle LCDR
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:10 am Post subject: |
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PhD candidate wrote: | crockspot wrote: | I expect Kerry to be serving a sentence for treason by 2008.
Hillary will definitely try. Maybe Obama too. Too early for me to think of anyone else. They seem to find someone at the last minute. Maybe the Dems will come to their senses and put up Lieberman.
On the Rep side, there's plenty of good choices: Jeb, Colin, Condi, Rudy... |
I would discount 2 of those.
colin powell has said he is not coming back for a second term.
and I seriously doubt that this country is ready for a woman president of any race, for either party. |
I agree with your comment on a female president at the very present - but don't count it out or Condi out for future...she presents the ultimate conundrum for the Dems - as does Powell...whether the Dems like it or not President Bush has done more to promote the status of African Americans in highest offices than many if not all previous presidents...the libs have got to hate that and as I noticed mentioned at Logic Times - a conservative African American believes we'll see 25% black vote for Repubs next time 'round...I'm stating the obvious but the Dems have major issues IMHO. _________________ "We will rally the world to this cause by our efforts, by our courage. We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail." -- President Bush 2001
Thanks W, Swifties, POWs & brave soldiers everywhere fighting for America and for freedom |
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4moreyears Former Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:21 am Post subject: |
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With his craggy face he might be the poster boy for MAX FACTOR...Does that count? _________________ kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam. |
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garb1015 Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 89 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:50 am Post subject: |
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A few people around my office today were convinced that we would see Hilary vs Rudy in '08. A couple of others were leaning toward Hilary vs McCain.
Whether people think this country is ready for a woman president or not, Hilary's name has been seriously coming up since Bill's book tour. She is said to be very popular and I see her as a threat.
But, four years is a long time and a lot can change before 2008. _________________ Camp Eagle 1970
"It don't mean nothin'..." |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Kerry won't be a factor in 2005, for heaven's sake.
With any luck at all, he'll be battling a series of criminal and civil suits. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother |
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Knighthawk Commander
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 323 Location: Camp Bondsteel, Kosovo
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Kerry won't be a factor........
This is Knighthawk's take on this election:
The Democrats nominated Kerry knowing full well that he would lose. The did this so Hillary does not have to run against an incumbent in '08. Look for Hillary to run on "conservative" moral values, and it would also not suprise me to see a "spoiler" like Ross Perot in the next election......am I scaring you.....good. Now that we have upper hand, we cannot let up.
Just my 0.02¢ _________________ Regards,
Brian
Beware of the lollipop of mediocrity! Lick it once and you'll suck forever.
If guns kill people, then I can blame misspelled words on my pencil.
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Ladder Yankee 33 Ensign
Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 68 Location: Cumming, GA
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Hillary is the DEM's last best hope for '08. The DEM's still do not get it. Morals and values matter.
The REP's will shy away from Rudy unless they abandon their long established platform of Pro Life and Family Values. Rudy supports abortion and homosexual rights.
The REP's have a problem coming up a viable candidate. There will be four years for a candidate to come to the forefront. _________________ "Win the Delta Come Hell or High Water!"
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af11905752 Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Kerry had his shot. He lost. His run for President is OVER!
Hillary will be the candidate in 2008. I bet her VP runningmate will be Obama. _________________ Support our wounded warriors.
Wounded Warrior Project
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Hondo LCDR
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 423 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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I think Kerry's history as a presidential candidate. As observed by others, the Democratic party does seem to exile losing presidential candidates.
IMO, the best way to neutralize Hillary - at least partially - is to convice Giuliani that he should run for Senator in 2006 against her. I think he'd have a decent chance.
Rudy's said he has no political aspirations at this point. I tend to believe him; he does seem to love NY and has a cancer history. However, his love of NY just might convince him to take a shot at the Senate, health permitting.
If Hillary fails to win reelection to the Senate in 2006, that would take lots of wind out of her 2008 presidential campaign. Might damage it fatally. _________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse."
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JK PO3
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 259
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: Will Kerry be a Factor in 2008? |
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Kerry still retains power as a Senator and will be a factor in ALL Government affairs and beyond as a former Senator. Here in NJ we have a disgraced and former Senator Torrecelli who stepped down from his office when he realized that he could NOT win reelection, he took his millions of dollars from his contributions and retired BUT has since been involved in removing Howard Dean from winning the Democratic Party endorsement and now receives lucrative contracts from Democratic insiders here in NJ, so until Kerry is convicted and serving time he will remain a factor.
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