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Jette
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:05 pm    Post subject: Kerry in '08? Reply with quote

Douglas Brinkley, Kerry's historian just said on Imus (MSNBC) that he can see Kerry running in '08. Perhaps it is wishful thinking (he also said he spent election night with Max Cleland and the guys from Kerry's boat, which makes him purely partisan), but it probably is not beyond the realm of possibility.

I suggest that we need to keep our eyes and ears open in the coming months, and pay particular attention to Kerry's return to the Senate floor. Since his record was working against him, he may use the next couple of years to build it up and use it to his advantage.

Of course this is speculation, but given Brinkley's knowledge of Kerry, he may be tuned into something the public is not.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, please do not let this happen. I don't think I can survive another campaign involving this guy. Furthermore, I thought Skerry's loss has opened the door four Hillary's in '08. We all know she will not be Chief justice of the Surpremes within the next four years.

Please do all you can to expose this guy for what he is. You have done an excellent job up to now and I do appreciate it - Thank you.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may be a way to keep the MSM from looking too deeply into Fraud's past for making them look like fools. They need a horse race with Hillary or nobody will pay attention to her.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt Kerry will run again.

My guess: it's Hillary in 2008, with Bill campaigning for non-stop for a year or two all over the country, but especially in the South.

Still, the ineffectiveness of the mainstream media in swaying people (firing up the base big time, but not persuading as much of the undecided as they needed--persuading them a lot, since a lot of people still tkae the MSM at face value, but not enough, since more and more dont') must be a sobering reminder for her.

Still, speculatively, she's the odds on favorite for the Dem nomination in 2008, and while I'd not vote for her, I think she will make a very formidable candidate.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless the dems wake up and find a "mainstream" candidate to run in '08, they're screwed. If we thought kerry was on the lunatic fringe, just wait until you get a load of hillary !!!

She's sided with Bush on some issues to make her seem more mainstream, but don't let that fool anybody. Can anyone imagine the dammage that will be done to this country if the clintons are allowed back in the whitehouse????
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imagine that Hillary might work behind the scenes to get MSM attention on the various Kerry frauds. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what fantasies Kerry may be harboring about another run, but I doubt very much his party will give a second chance to a proven loser. The only time they did that in my memory was when they nominated Adlai Stevenson to run (and lose) a second time against Eisenhower, and Stevenson had nowhere near the baggage that Kerry has in such abundance.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be interesting to see if Terry McAwful survives the post-election Demo scapegoat hunt. He is, however, a Clinton puppet and a HUGE fund-raising machinist. It was also interesting to note in another post that B. Clinton had tried to get Kerry to come out AGAINST the gay marriage initiative which Kerry declined to do.

This seems to indicate that HC will make an early run to the center in order to position herself for '08.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfgang wrote:
I doubt Kerry will run again.

My guess: it's Hillary in 2008, with Bill campaigning for non-stop for a year or two all over the country, but especially in the South.

Still, the ineffectiveness of the mainstream media in swaying people (firing up the base big time, but not persuading as much of the undecided as they needed--persuading them a lot, since a lot of people still tkae the MSM at face value, but not enough, since more and more dont') must be a sobering reminder for her.

Still, speculatively, she's the odds on favorite for the Dem nomination in 2008, and while I'd not vote for her, I think she will make a very formidable candidate.

If my wishes come true:
Bush will make Bill Clinton our U.N. ambassador,
which will open the door for his aspirations to replace Kofi Annon,
and will cement the perceptive effort to "reach out".

Which, hopefully, will also keep Bill from campaigning too hard for Hillary, or campaigning for anybody at all while he holds the post.

It would be a win-win situation. The world LOVES Clinton, and he would be somewhat restricted because he'd be following White House policies.

I still want to see Don Rumsfeld as Secretary of State ... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He can run again, but he won't become their Nominee!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:12 am    Post subject: Madame Hily Reply with quote

For those of you who have an appetite to get ready for 08, I just want to say a few things.

Get a record of how many meetings Hillary had with the veterans. She always refused to meet with them over the last 4 years to discuss anything.

Get the tape from NPR where she accused President Bush of causing 911.

I also hear she is going to start going to church in Chappiqua, NY to establish her faith values.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jwb7605 wrote:
Wolfgang wrote:
I doubt Kerry will run again.

My guess: it's Hillary in 2008, with Bill campaigning for non-stop for a year or two all over the country, but especially in the South.

Still, the ineffectiveness of the mainstream media in swaying people (firing up the base big time, but not persuading as much of the undecided as they needed--persuading them a lot, since a lot of people still tkae the MSM at face value, but not enough, since more and more dont') must be a sobering reminder for her.

Still, speculatively, she's the odds on favorite for the Dem nomination in 2008, and while I'd not vote for her, I think she will make a very formidable candidate.

If my wishes come true:
Bush will make Bill Clinton our U.N. ambassador,
which will open the door for his aspirations to replace Kofi Annon,
and will cement the perceptive effort to "reach out".

Which, hopefully, will also keep Bill from campaigning too hard for Hillary, or campaigning for anybody at all while he holds the post.

It would be a win-win situation. The world LOVES Clinton, and he would be somewhat restricted because he'd be following White House policies.

I still want to see Don Rumsfeld as Secretary of State ... Twisted Evil


Oh my goodness - bar the doors and put the interns at the UN in the next country...Billy does the UN?! Also, I think this guy is a felon, though not successfully tried due to the situation and station (if he were a college dean he would have served jail time, for instance) (although he was only the second president to go through an impeachment trial) -

However, your idea has one of those intriguing feels to it and it may be good strategically...I doubt if BC would do Bush a favor like this though...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerry in 08? Not a chance. The Dems eat their losers. For the same reason, Gore will not (despite his wistful fantasies) run again too. My best bet now is the HILDABEAST. Four years though is a long time, did anyone here guess correctly in 00 that JK would be the nominee this time around? A heck of a lot can happen in four years. Razz Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard Nixon Lost in 1960 and got the nomination a 2nd time 8 years later.

I wouldn't count the "loser" out ....

He would lose by a much bigger margin because now in everyones mind he is a "loser"...

Bring in on!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Democrats need a fresh face without the leftist ideals. Unfortunately they do not have one. The Clintonistas run the party and Edwards, Kerry, Algore et al are losers. Hillary only has appeal to a limited number of radicals and socialist feminists. Clinton never got 50% of the vote. She would not do near as well.
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