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peter
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:03 pm    Post subject: New Mexico / Iowa Reply with quote

Is New Mexico called for Bush and is Iowa still 'counting'....

I'd like the MSM to report Kerry lost 2 states that Gore won previously.
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chayes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe NM was called in Bush's favor. Here in IA, they are still counting provisional and absetee ballots. Supposedly there was far more of these then the margin that Bush shows in the lead, so they are going to count all of them. Should be next week when the results are finally known. Then again, its just a formality at this point, thank God.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox news is showing NM to Bush with 279 electoral votes. Iowa is the only state unaccounted for.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chayes wrote:
I believe NM was called in Bush's favor. Here in IA, they are still counting provisional and absetee ballots. Supposedly there was far more of these then the margin that Bush shows in the lead, so they are going to count all of them. Should be next week when the results are finally known. Then again, its just a formality at this point, thank God.


Thanks but I still think it useful to know Kerry lost 2 Gore States. If Bush had carried NH, he would have won if if he lost Ohio (Tie goes to the President)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Tie would have had to be decided by the House of Represenatives, it does not automaticly go to the Incumbent. Most likely it would have gone to Bush there also, just Thank God we did not have to endure that!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Florida is a RED state again ..and we are not "still counting"!!!!! Thank you Heavenly Father! Amen CTW

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Counting Absentee Ballots Reply with quote

If they're counting absentee ballots in Iowa, maybe they should also count them in Wisconsin.

In Iowa, Bush leads by 13,226 votes out of nearly 1.5 million cast, or 0.89%.

In Wisconsin, Kerry leads by 11,813 votes out of nearly 3 million cast, or 0.40%. Percentage-wise, that's less than half of Bush's lead in Iowa.

Since absentee ballots tend to favor Republicans, who knows whether there would be enough votes in the Wisconsin absentee ballots to swing Wisconsin to Bush?

I know this is only an academic exercise, but if Wisconsin's absentee ballots are counted, Bush may have actually won three Gore states...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was in the Albuquerque Journal - sounds pretty mickey mouse too me.


November 3, 2004

Uncounted Ballots, Long Lines Among New Mexico Voting Troubles

By Sue Major Holmes
The Associated Press
Dona Ana County had to wait for a machine to be shipped in to count 8,000 absentee ballots and Bernalillo County needed a judge's ruling to count more than 200 others as New Mexico continued to tally votes a day after the general election.
A court ruled Wednesday that Bernalillo County should count 268 absentee ballots — a day after state District Judge Theresa Baca had prohibited that tally, saying the ballot box wasn't stamped by a 7 p.m.
County Clerk Mary Herrera said a mix-up with the box's key caused the delay in getting it stamped. She argued that if voters could return absentee ballots to her office until 7 p.m., it was unreasonable to expect ballots to be stamped at 7 p.m. at the warehouse a mile away where votes are counted.
Bernalillo County also plans to begin counting about 13,000 provisional ballots Thursday. Herrera said the count would finish by Saturday evening at the latest.
Voters use paper provisional ballots when their names aren't on a roster at a polling place. Those ballots, authorized under the federal Help America Vote Act, aren't counted until a county's canvass and only after they're checked to make sure the voter is eligible.
Officials in Cibola County, which had not reported vote totals to the secretary of state, spent Wednesday afternoon rechecking tallies from all the voting machines and absentee ballots.
Santa Fe County Clerk Rebecca Bustamante, whose office was still counting absentees Wednesday, said her biggest problem was the overwhelming numbers of poll watchers from the Democrats and Republicans, political action and voter rights groups and others who descended on New Mexico.
"It was constant all day. . . . We had to stop everything and respond to all these allegations, which is real sad," she said.
She cited examples:
— A man who was told his name wasn't on a precinct roster. It turned out he had already voted, and it was a poll watcher — not the clerk — whose roster didn't have his name.
— Someone reported the machines down in another precinct, with long lines and no emergency ballots. "Nothing of the sort happened," Bustamante said.
— A report that a precinct presiding judge required everyone to provide Social Security numbers and was not providing provisional ballots. Watchers at that polling site said the allegations weren't true.
— Allegations that another precinct handed out provisional ballots to anyone who came in. That precinct, a large one, had only one provisional ballot and six in-lieu of ballots, the latter for voters who said they didn't get the absentee ballot they requested.
Voters at Santo Domingo Pueblo in Sandoval County lined up late into Tuesday evening to vote after Gov. Sisto Quintana closed the polls for most of the day, the Albuquerque Journal reported.
He shut down the polls 30 minutes after they opened and told Sandoval County officials and three U.S. Department of Justice observers that the pueblo — and the polls — would close for All Souls Day. Polls reopened about 5 p.m. at the pueblo, which has 748 registered voters, most of them Democrats.
State police received reports from the Farmington area, Las Cruces, Grants and Albuquerque about political action and voter rights groups standing too close to the polls, said Department of Public Safety spokesman Peter Olson. Such groups must stay back 100 feet.
Three Cibola County voters who sent in absentee ballots tried to vote again Tuesday.
"One of the cases might have been a mistake; they didn't realize they had voted absentee and tried to vote in person. There seems to be no mischief there," Olson said Wednesday.
State police were working with the district attorney to see whether charges would be pursued in the other two cases, he said.
Sometimes it was voter interest that slowed things down.
Two precincts on Albuquerque's west side had so many voters still in line at 7 p.m., when polls officially closed, that people cast ballots until 10:45 p.m., Herrera said.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its official in Iowa: http://www.presscitizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041105/NEWS01/41105003/1079
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save you from having to open the link:

George W. Bush (i) Rep 745,980 - 50 percent
John F. Kerry Dem 732,764 - 49 percent
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just off Fox today Bush took New Mexico and Iowa!!!!!!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lastest National Totals Bush 53% Loser 47% with 4.6 million difference ...

A total and complete landslide.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't expect a final in New Mexico until Nov 23rd. The AG is determined to count every vote - even if she has to do it herself - to make sure Kerry gets all the votes possible. they won't start on the provisional ballots in one county until next week. Bill Richardson is positive the NM will go blue. Guess he feels his reputation is a† stake. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bill Richardson is positive the NM will go blue. Guess he feels his reputation is a† stake.


I hope they have someone watching them, don't trust those guys. I think Richardson wants the state blue because he's going to run in '08.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny -- As it turns out, if he had won NH, he could still have "won" even without OH (it would have been a 'tie') but he would have won via the house.

Nice we didn't need it.
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