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carpro
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| 3rd gen Navy wrote: |
the problem with most academics is that they've got no damn common sense and they're too damn arrogant to realize / admit the depths of their ignorance...
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I've always called them "educated way beyond their intelligence".
It just always seemed to fit. 
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Paul R.
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Location: Illinois
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| sround wrote: | hey, you guys feeling misunderestimated?
Don't sweat it...in fact, just like "Campaign Carl" Rove says,
"consider it a GIFT." |
No kidding! They misunderestimated Reagan and obviously do so every time Bush runs for something. Even when told, the libs are too arrogant to "get it."
So we are underestimated. It's company I don't mind being in!
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Beatrice1000
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Location: Minneapolis, MN
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:28 am Post subject: |
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David Horowitz had some comments on this article: David’s Blog - 11/5/04:
| Quote: | My last blog was called "The Idiot Who Lost" -- make that plural. The outpouring of ignorant, intolerant hate against George Bush and the Republicans -- even as Bush's hand is extended to the defeated -- is merely a continuation of a campaign by the left (Puh-leeze don't insult your intelligence by referring to these people as "liberals") against those who disagree with them that has bordered on the psychotic for more than year. This is certainly a sign that we are headed for rough waters. I am posting in full a Slate column by the celebrated American novelist Jane Smiley which is a case of the purest projection of her own invincible prejudice onto others.
I don't know Smiley's family -- but the mere fact that she would draw them into her public harrangue as an example of mindless prejudice suggests that she has shall we say unresolved psychological issues that were best dealt with in private. In Smiley's view (what an inappropriate moniker!) to be religious is to be a biblical literalist and to insist that everyone toe your doctrinal line rot in hell. This is the view of the Islamists but it is a caricature of Christians like George Bush -- a man who has a compassionate view of gays (I have personally discussed the subject with him) and who to take one small example, opened the White House for the first official Chanukah celebration in its history, and who has gone out of his way to hold Islam harmless in a war in which everyone of our terrorist enemies has set out to destroy us Koran in hand. Shame on Smiley and the hate-full left for this jihad against decent Americans and their exceptionally decent leader. This is more than sore losing and just as they paid for it in their defeat at the polls, they will pay for it in their defeats in the battles to come. HOROWITZ ARTICLE |
Amazed & curious about this woman, I looked up a couple things on her: JANE SMILEY: She writes fiction: ..politics, farming, horse training, child-rearing, literature, impulse buying, getting dressed, Barbie, marriage, .... She is now at work on a novel about sex set in Hollywood.
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Excerpts from an INTERVIEW-6/18/03 (emphasis, mine)
| Quote: | JS: ... And I also believe that it's only possible to live if you can detach yourself and detach your sort of sense of what's going on a little bit and take a kind of observational position on everything...
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JS: ..I wrote a piece for the Washington Post and it was published on Sunday, September 10 (2001) .... I just liked to wake up every morning with the same thing going as went on the day before. And, of course, the next day everybody's life changed. But it's still my dream.
RB: Is that true?
JS: Yeah.
RB: Not about your dream but about everybody's life having changed.
JS: On September 11th? Well, I don't think history changed. But I think that the way most Americans experienced themselves and their lives changed. At least for the time being. And even if the average person was to kind of get back to other way he or she was before. The government has changed. The government is still resonating with the fears of that period and is responding to its ever-deepening fears by getting more and more aggressive. So the government will force change upon us, even if we don't want it. I think that it's a pity, but I also think that the hijackers in some sense achieved their goal, because they changed the way the government looks at itself and its duties and responsibilities towards its people. And not for the better.
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RB: Would you write a political satire?
JS: No, because I don't know anything.
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JS: And so, Hallelujah. My other essential principle of fiction writing or novel writing is that everyone who is engaged in art is free... And for a novel writer and reader, you are free to do what ever you want.
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JS: .... It's not that you want to become your job. It's that in some sense that's the result. But the great thing in America is that when you are forty-eight or fifty or whatever, you can wake up and look around and say, "I have another plan."
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JS: I was reading about the prime minister of France administering the bad news to all the future pensioners that it's not going to work and he has demographics on his side, I am sorry to say. But there is something gratuitous about what is going on with our government. There is something gratuitous about the government handing a trillion dollars to the million most wealthy people in the country and telling everyone else essentially go figure something out........ |
--Nuff said, I guess, if you look at the source of that ridiculous article!
Here's a fiction writer, a self-proclaimed "detached" person wishing nothing had changed on 9/11 and complaining that when the average person "gets back to the way they were" before 9/11, that the government has changed and not gone back to pre-9/11 and therefore guilty somehow of becoming "aggressive" and changing to meet the challenge... which is a change "not for the better" to Ms.  Smiley It is "the government" that is "forcing change" directly upon her -- not, of course, the murderous Jihadis....
She won't write about politics because she "doesn't know anything," gushes about American freedoms (her entitlement it seems), praises the French and trashes the judgment of her own government. She was doing this in 2003 - well before she looked at the map of the red & blue states. She was already there. Vassar Grad, traveled in Europe. My oh my aren't we lucky to have her insight. I'm sure her books will be flying off the shelves now....
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Hondo
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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So, "Janie" thinks all of us who voted for GWB should be wearing the old "I'm With Stupid" t-shirt, eh? Given her accomplishments in life to date - and her own admission that "she doesn't know anything" - perhaps she should be the one wearing the "I'm With Stupid" t-shirt vice those of us in "redstateland".
Or maybe she should be wearing it's companion shirt - the one that just says "Stupid".
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