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shooter Seaman
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 180 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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THIS IS A GREAT WEEK !!!!
GEORGE RE-ELECTED, COMPLETE CONTROL OF CONGRESS, DEMOCRATIC PARTY TURNED INTO CANNIBALS AND ARAFAT DEAD !!
Life IS good !!!
How many pall bearers will Yasser need??
Ans.: TWO..... There's only two handles on a trashcan _________________ ADC USN Ret.
For those that fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know !!
Harley Davidson - If you have to ask, you don't understand !
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Digger Commander
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 321 Location: Lakemont,Gerogia
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Arafat can Gai trennen und brennen for all of me. I wish him "VEY GESCHTUPPED".
Sorry, that's not very pious of me. But where people like Arafat are concerned I tend to slip to the dark side. _________________ Hey swifty, I'm with you, Just watch you don't get "Kerry'd away in the propwash
Sgt. Maj. Seamus D.D. MacNemi R.M.C. Ret. |
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The Balloon Artist PO3
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 262 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:32 am Post subject: |
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This is starting to sound like an old Saturday Night Live bit.
Francisco Franco is valiantly holding on to his fight to remain dead.
Or maybe several Monty Python bits .
Bring out your Dead, Bring out your dead.
Is she dead yet?
No I'm not dead yet. _________________ What about John Kerry's four months in Vietnam qualify him to be president?
Al Gore was there for five. |
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Digger Commander
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 321 Location: Lakemont,Gerogia
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Saturday Night Live, Hey? That's a great idea. We could tell jokes and do online skits retelling the tale of "THE DEMISE OF JOHN KERRY"
Here's one for you : Micheal Moore is driving the airlines into bankruptcy.
Whenever he flies anywhere, he gets two seats for the price of one. _________________ Hey swifty, I'm with you, Just watch you don't get "Kerry'd away in the propwash
Sgt. Maj. Seamus D.D. MacNemi R.M.C. Ret. |
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Fort Campbell Vice Admiral
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 896
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Israel has announced that Arafat will NOT be buried on the Temple Mount or anywhere else in Jerusalem.
But I would not rejoice too quickly. I think he is being kept "alive' just to give the PLO time to regroup and pick a successor. If that successor is young and full of hatred then things could get even worse. |
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GoEagles Lt.Jg.
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 147 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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GoEagles wrote: | Somehow, someway, this will be blamed on the Jews. |
I'm going to have to pull out an "I told you so" on this one
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/250074p-214174c.html
Arafat poisoned?
Candles are lit for Yasser Arafat at Paris hospital, where he lies in a coma.
A Palenstian diplomat accused the Israelis yesterday of poisoning Yasser Arafat.
"The doctors until now could not diagnose precisely what is wrong with him, but it is believed there is a poison," Ali Kazak, who heads the Palestinian delegation to Australia, told the Herald Sun newspaper in Melbourne.
"It could be poison because they have checked everything, and his body is in good health, there is no cancer, it is not leukemia."
Arafat's doctor, Ashraf Kurdi, told the Al Jazeera satellite TV network that, "Arafat's health condition makes poisoning a strong possibility."
Israelis, who gave Arafat safe passage from his West Bank compound to a French military hospital last week, denied the charge.
"It's absolute nonsense; it's completely ridiculous," an Israeli government source said. Kurdi has not yet diagnosed Arafat's mysterious blood ailment, and last night the 75-year-old Palestinian leader was hovering "between life and death."
"He is in a coma," Leila Shahid, the Palestinian envoy to France, said. "We don't know the type, but it's a reversible coma. He may or may not wake up. All vital organs are functioning."
But other Arafat aides insisted their 75-year-old leader was brain dead and on life support. They said his wife, Suha, is weighing whether to pull the plug.
"He is being aided by respiratory machines and his condition appears irreversible," a high-ranking Palestinian official told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.
Arafat jealously guarded his power and never appointed a successor. As he lay near death, Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia and Mahmoud Abbas, Arafat's No. 2 in the Palestine Liberation Organization, were taking the reins of the government.
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The only difference between Arafat and Bin Laden is PR. _________________ "We cannot win this election" - John Fraud Kerry 11/3/04
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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It has to be the Israelis' fault - if the nasty little cretin dies of natural causes, he gets no martyr status. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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No doubt the Palestinians will find someway to blame Isreal. No doubt they will blame the US too for being in a conspiracy against them with Isreal. I do not wish any evil on anyone, but the world will be better off without Arafat.
For fourty years he has made the life of the Isreali's hell and brainwashed two generations at the least against all Jews. You just do not wake up one day and decide, "oh, I think I will be a suicide bomber today". These people have been brainwashed since they were toddlers. It is sick and so sad. There is no good leader for the Palestinians for they all hate Isreal and the Jews and their goal is to anialate the Jews and the westerners. I see no peace for Isreal as long as the Palestinians continue on in the hate they spread all over and the lies they tell. They are a people of double talk and cannot be trusted. |
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Taylor Seaman Recruit
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 34
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Maybe we should jump up and down in front of news camera in celebration when he's finally dead just like they did when we got hit on 9-11? _________________
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Arafat's Wife Accuses Deputies of Wanting Him Dead
Sun Nov 7, 2004 10:03 PM ET
By Wafa Amr
PARIS (Reuters) - Yasser Arafat's wife accused Palestinian leaders hoping to travel to France on Monday to visit her critically ill husband of plotting to "bury him alive," an apparent reference to taking him off life-support.
Israeli media had reported the death of the 75-year-old president would be announced after Palestine Liberation Organization Secretary General Mahmoud Abbas, Prime Minister Ahmed Qurie and Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath arrived in Paris.
"I appeal to you to be aware of the scope of the conspiracy," a screaming Suha Arafat said on the Arabic Al Jazeera satellite television station, monitored in the West Bank. "They are trying to bury Abu Ammar (Arafat) alive."
Palestinian officials have accused Mrs. Arafat, who prior to her husband being flown to a Paris military hospital on Oct. 29 had not seen him in three years, of limiting access to and information about the veteran leader.
Arafat, symbol for decades of the Palestinian struggle against Israel for a state, was suffering from liver failure and his health was not improving, one official said.
An Israeli newspaper's Web site said the "working assumption" among Israeli security officials preparing for Arafat's death was that any life support equipment would be shut down on Tuesday.
"Suha does not want the Palestinian leaders to come to visit Arafat," one Palestinian official said before her Al Jazeera interview was broadcast. "Talks are going on and it's not clear when the leaders will come to Paris."
CHAOS FEARS
Arafat's close circle has been concerned that fears about his health might increase chaos back home. Others fear a power struggle among Palestinians locked in a 4-year-old uprising against Israel.
French Foreign Minister Michel Barnier described Arafat's condition as "very complex, very serious and stable at the time we are speaking."
Abbas and Qurie, overseeing the Palestinian Authority in Arafat's absence, wanted to go to Paris on Monday to learn the facts about his condition, a Palestinian official said.
A Palestinian artist paints a large banner of Palestinian President Yasser Arafat in front a mosque in Gaza November 7, 2004. Arafat, critically ill in a Paris hospital, has suffered liver failure, a Palestinian official said as three top Palestinian leaders prepared to fly to France to be at his bedside. Photo by Suhaib Salem/Reuters
Israeli commentators called the visit a symbolic show of steady leadership by two members of Arafat's "old guard" and a necessary precursor to any announcement of his death.
Looking ahead to life without Arafat, his subordinates in the West Bank decided to carry out a plan to restore law and order to the Palestinian territories.
It was the first major decision they had announced since Arafat left.
Officials in Ramallah said the plan, drafted in March, was concerned more with ending local lawlessness than reining in militants waging the 4-year-old uprising -- a long-standing Israeli and international demand.
Calling for more security forces to be deployed, the plan also bans militants from carrying arms except when confronting Israel and from intervening in local disturbances.
Israel has said Palestinian failure to curb anti-Israeli violence was one of the main reasons for its decision to carry out a unilateral withdrawal of settlers and soldiers from the Gaza Strip and parts of the West Bank.
The evacuation, scheduled for 2005, is seen by Palestinians as a ruse aimed at cementing Israel's hold on larger settlement blocs in the West Bank.
Addressing the delicate issue of where Arafat should be buried if he dies, Israel said it had completed preparations for his eventual burial in the Gaza Strip.
Arafat wants to be buried in Jerusalem's Old City, which is holy both to Muslims and Jews. But Israel refuses to let Arafat lie in annexed land it calls part of its indivisible capital.
"I appeal to you to be aware of the scope of the conspiracy," a screaming Suha Arafat said on the Arabic Al Jazeera satellite television station, monitored in the West Bank. "They are trying to bury Abu Ammar (Arafat) alive."
Hey....I didn't think of THAT....!!!!
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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msindependent Vice Admiral
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 891 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Leave it to the lefties to point fingers at everyone else. If it was poison, maybe his wife did it. She won't let anyone in his room to talk with him. She looks a lot younger you know. |
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:04 am Post subject: |
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Palestinian unrest about Arafat puts Lebanon on alert
The Israeli Air Force scrambled several jets last week, fearing possible attacks from Palestinians upset by Yasser Arafat's condition.
By Nicholas Blanford | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor
NAQOURA, SOUTH LEBANON – When Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was reported to have slipped into a coma last week, the Israeli Air Force wasted no time scrambling several jets across the border into south Lebanon.
The overflights, which consisted of 11 aircraft and three reconnaissance drones, illustrate Israel's unease at the prospect of Palestinian refugees in Lebanon launching revenge attacks across the border should the ailing Palestinian leader die.
Reporters on
the Job
Those fears are shared on the Lebanese side of the border, with the government in Beirut as well as the Hizbullah organization wary of an Israeli backlash to Palestinian attacks.
The bottom line, say observers, is that Mr. Arafat's death could lead to instability in the camps in Lebanon as well as the Palestinian territories, creating an atmosphere for cross- border violence.
"Both sides are very concerned about what the Palestinians might do in the event of Arafat's death," says a senior security source in south Lebanon.
Indeed, at the end of October, suspected Palestinian militants fired a single Katyusha rocket into northern Israel. Security officials suspect that the attack was in response to the news that Arafat was dying and required treatment in France.
The Israeli Cabinet claimed on Sunday that four Katyusha rockets have been fired into Israel so far this year, and blamed Palestinian militants.
The Lebanese government keeps a tight leash on the estimated 350,000 Palestinians living in some 12 camps scattered throughout the country. But the poverty and squalid living conditions in these camps breed hopelessness and despair, making the Palestinians a potential source of instability.
For 40 years, Arafat has symbolized Palestinian statehood and he is revered by most of these refugees for his unstinting demand that they be allowed to return to their former homes.
Still, the Palestinian leadership in Lebanon is ruling out the prospect of revenge attacks along the border.
"It is not part of our political program to carry out operations whether, God forbid, President Arafat stays sick, or if he gets better," says Sultan Abul-Aynayn, the head of Arafat's Fatah faction in Lebanon.
The Fatah factor
Fatah is the most powerful Palestinian faction in the volatile camps in southern Lebanon, using funds controlled by Arafat to buy support. If the supply of funds dries up in the event of his death, Fatah may find its dominance challenged by more radical factions - a recipe for intra-Palestinian violence that could affect stability along the border.
Generally, however, Israel's principal concern from Lebanon is Hizbullah rather than Palestinian militants.
Although there are some 1,000 Lebanese troops deployed in the southern border district, Hizbullah fighters maintain control of the frontier itself, monitoring Israeli movements from a series of observation posts.
Hizbullah periodically launches attacks against Israeli troops occupying the Shebaa Farms, a strip of mountainside running along Lebanon's southeast border with the Golan Heights. But Hizbullah's anti-Israel actions are kept within a certain limit. Their intention is to needle the Israelis but not to provoke a heavy military response against Lebanon that could cause a backlash against Hizbullah's domestic popularity.
Stung by drones?
On Sunday, Hizbullah unveiled its latest means of rattling the Israelis by dispatching a reconnaissance drone across the border for the first time.
The drone, named Mirsad-1 (Arabic for "observer"), flew over several Israeli settlements, reaching Nahariya, five miles south of the border, before returning.
It was the first hostile penetration of Israeli airspace from Lebanon since 1987, when a Palestinian militant crossed the border by hang glider, landed outside a military base and shot dead six Israeli soldiers before being gunned down himself. Hizbullah said the drone was a response to Israel's repeated violations of Lebanese airspace, and pledged more flights.
"If Hizbullah sent a drone across the fence and brought it back again that will sting the Israelis no end," says a military attaché in Beirut.
In Israel, hard questions were asked yesterday about how the drone could reach as far as Nahariya without being spotted and shot down.
"A good number of senior Israel Defense Forces officers should be downright embarrassed by the Hizbullah drone that entered Israel's airspace in the western Galilee," wrote Amir Oren in Israel's English-language daily, Haaretz.
Ironically, however, if Palestinian militants do attempt to reach the border to launch attacks against Israel, the Israelis may find that they have an inadvertent ally in Hizbullah.
The Lebanese group is careful to protect its tactical control over the border, knowing that attacks by unauthorized parties can jeopardize the delicate balance between it and the Israeli military.
That balance has grown more fragile lately with Hizbullah, the Lebanese government, and Syria, which dominates its tiny neighbor, coming under intense pressure from the international community.
In September, the UN Security Council passed a resolution calling for Syria to cease interfering in the affairs of Lebanon, withdraw its estimated 14,000 troops, and dismantle Hizbullah and all Palestinian militant groups.
"Given the political environment, a Katyusha attack into Israel affects all three audiences - Syria, Hizbullah, and the Lebanese government," says Timur Goksel, a former senior adviser to the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon. "It's very natural that Hizbullah would be against attacks by Palestinians, especially when firing single Katyusha rockets into Israel has no military or tactical value at all."
Bitter enemies they may be, but Hizbullah and Israel understand and observe the rules of the game that govern clashes along the border. That helps explain why Israel accepted that Palestinian militants were probably behind the recent rocket firing and chose not to blame Hizbullah.
"Hizbullah and Israel treat each other with silk gloves. It is a conflict that can be managed if there is a political will," the senior security source says. "The Palestinians, however, are volatile and pose a threat to everyone." |
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Arafat Life Support to Be Switched Off
"Arafat Life Support to Be Switched Off"
then on...then off...then on...then off...put a flasher switch in the plug.
United Press International
Palestinian officials said life sustaining artificial respiratory machines keeping Yasser Arafat alive will be switched off "when the time comes." Various media reports indicate that time could be within hours.
Amman's daily al-Ghad Tuesday quoted the unidentified officials as saying the decision to remove the respirator will be taken by members of a high-ranking official Palestinian team, who arrived in Paris Monday.
"There is no more hope that he will ever return to life," the sources said of Arafat who has been in coma for four days.
Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia, Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath, Mahmoud Abbas, secretary of the Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization, Palestinian Legislative Council chief Rawhi Ftouh and Selim Zaanoun, head of the Palestinian National Council or parliament-in-exile, will make the decision after consulting with French officials, the sources said.
They said the Palestinian leadership believes keeping Arafat alive artificially is inhumane.
In Paris, the chief medical doctor at Percy military hospital said Arafat's condition further deteriorated overnight and he has entered a deeper stage of coma.
Arafat's wife, Suha, has reportedly refused to switch off the life-sustaining machines and is controlling all press releases and reports on her husband's health, taking advantage of a French law that grants her that right.
Mrs. Arafat sharply criticized her husband's top aides on Monday accusing them of seeking to bury him alive.
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"Okay....hold on everybody! I am here to tell you that Yasir Arafat is not
dead....!" ....Now...I will be pleased to take a few questions..." |
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No wonder the Isralis were never able to kill this pig.
I always thought they just were not trying hard enough.
My apologies to the Mossad. |
"The president is very ill," Palestinian Authority Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath said Tuesday night at a press conference in Paris, declining to confirm reports that Yasser Arafat is already dead.
"Our delegation (of Palestinian Authority heads) came to Paris with a heavy heart," Shaath said. Of the four delegation members, "only Abu Alla (Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei) was allowed to see him. Arafat's coma last night deepened... But there is no reason to make rumors (of his death)," he said.
"I'm relaying to you all of the information we have in order to put an end to the rumors and speculation that have been in the media," Shaath said.
"His brain, his heart and his lungs are still functioning. He is alive and I don't see any reason to make rumors precipitating his death."
Shaath ruled out all question of euthanasia, saying, "We Muslims do not believe in euthanasia, as if he can be plugged in or plugged out. No such measure has ever been considered. He will live or die depending on his body's ability to resist and on the will of God."
Shaath said that although doctors had not reached a definitive diagnosis of Arafat's illness owing his fragile condition, which limited medical testing, experts had ruled out cancer and poisoning as the causes of his deterioration in health.
Rather, doctors have attributed his condition to a "chain of events." Shaath said that in addition to his advanced age and difficult life, his health was challenged during his three-year confinement in the Mukata compound in Ramallah, intimating Israel's responsibility for the leader's health problems.
"His incarceration in a very small office, enforced by Israeli troops, with very bad oxygen and very bad sanitary situation," Shaath said, led to stomach and intestinal problems which increased in severity over time.
Shaath ensured that in the absence of their longtime leader, order in the Palestinian Authority had not suffered.
"The cabinet is working and functioning. If God forbid Arafat dies, the speaker of the house [Rawhi Fattuh] will become the interim president. We will try to arrange democratic presidential elections within 60 days."
He added that the PA delegation in Paris will be returning Wednesday morning to the territories. Several media reports claim that Arafat has already died, and that the announcement of his death was delayed until the delegation members are back in the country.
Ramallah officials: Arafat will be buried in the Mukata
Two hours earlier, senior Palestinians officials declared that Arafat will be buried in the Mukata, ruling out the option that he would be buried in the Gaza Strip, where his sister is buried, or in the Temple Mount.
However, Israeli security and government officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said in the past few days that Ramallah is not an option for Arafat's burial. Israel fears a funeral in Ramallah could present a security risk because of its close proximity to Jerusalem and due to the many army-manned roadblocks surrounding the town.
"The Palestinian leadership, together with representatives of the Fatah and other groups, will convene soon in the Mukata to make the needed arrangements and follow closely matters relating to the chairman's condition," Saeb Erekat and Tayeb Abdel Rahim told reporters in Ramallah.
"The Palestinian people must be strong," they said, and broke in tears.
The announcement came several hours after a Palestinian source told the Reuters news agency that Arafat "may have only hours to live." It seems the Palestinian leadership is preparing the people for Arafat's demise.
Hadash MK Ahmed Tibi, who is close to the PA leadership, said Tuesday afternoon that Arafat had suffered a few hours ago from a hemorrhage in his brain, which caused an irreversible condition.
"It is a matter of hours [before he will die]," Tibi said in the Knesset.
"A leader can die, but a people will never die," he added.
Arafat's condition worsened overnight, hospital officials said Tuesday, and the coma he has been in since Wednesday has deepened.
"His coma, that had led to his admission to the intensive care unit, became deeper this morning. This marks a significant stage toward a development for which we reserve our prognosis," said Gen. Christian Estripeau, spokesman for the Percy Military Training Hospital.
Hospital officials said Monday that visiting rights were restricted - setting the stage for a dramatic showdown between the delegation and Suha, the Palestinian leader's wife. Officials in Qurei's office said Tuesday that every effort was being made to avoid a confrontation with Suha Arafat.
On Tuesday, French Foreign Minister Michel Barnier told France-2 television it was only "natural" that the Palestinian leadership be permitted to see Arafat.
"All that will be decided at the hospital, with the doctors and the wife of Arafat," Barnier said.
THROUGHOUT ISRAEL, SPECIAL MONUMENTS ARE ALREADY BEING CAST IN HIS LIKENESS.....
[no, really]
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