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bigchief · Seaman Recruit Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 2

I unfortunately live in New Orleans, home to Kerry propagandist, Douglas Brinkley. Brinkley is a professor of history at the University of New Orleans, a state funded university that receives enormous amounts of federal dollars, courtesy of John Breaux and Mary Landrieu. He is a staunch democrat, on the lines of Maureen O Dowd. He receives funding from a chair as the head of the Eisenhower center for American Studies, which I find repugnant and dishonorable to Ike.

My comment is how can we affect his work? Can we eliminate the funding for his chair? His biography of Kerry was obviously propagandist nonsense. Why should taxpayers money go to fund this gibberish? To support my point, his other work includes biographies of Jimmy Carter, Hunter S. Thompson, Rosa Parks and several other democratic icons. He came to fame for being the assistant of noted historian and author Stephen Ambrose, who pinned "Band of Brothers" and "Saving Private Ryan". Brinkley was also the hack who plagairized another author, submitted the work to Ambrose as original work which Amborse included in one of his last novels. The oversight cost Ambrose some loss of credibility and much embarassment when uncovered by the press.

Is this doable, Swiftees?

I B Squidly · Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject:

As Brinkley is the 'Stephen Ambrose Chair' you're not likely to access the notes that would prove him the source of Ambrose's plagiarism. UNO won't be happy with an attack on an endowed chair but an Academic Review Board might go after him. Send lawyers, guns and money....or some respected academics.

How someone who has an avowed contempt for the military holds the Ambrose Chair at the Eisenhower Canter is beyond me.

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Darkhorse18 · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:28 am Post subject:

Just see if Brinkley would like to go to Cambodia for Xmas! Shocked

peter · Lieutenant Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 214

He is a political hack and not a very bright man.

GenrXr · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:19 am Post subject:

Being an accomplished historian is a very respectable station in life whereas being an accomplished partisan hack will get you a eulogy no one remembers.

Btw, Welcome to the boards bigchief.
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granny23 · Seaman Recruit Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 46

Ambrose frequently helped himself to the words of others. Here is an article about the subject.

http://slate.msn.com/?id=2072336

I am no fan of Brinkley's but I don't think he was responsible for all of this.

GenrXr · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:18 am Post subject:

Jack Mclaughlin · PO3 Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 280

When John O`Neill wrote, " Unfit For Command " he not only unmasked John Kerry he also made us understand that Douglas Brinkley`s book, " Tour of Duty " was more fiction than reality. In fact, Adm. Roy Hoffman, founder of SBVT, has stated more than once that it was Brinkley`s book of lies, distortions and exaggerations that was the catalyst that got him moving.

Here is our problem: We know John O`Neill is an honest and honorable man and Brinkley is little more than a democrat operative and con man. Yet, since liberals write the history books, O`Neill will be branded as the dirty trickster whose unfair tactics and distortions led to the demise of their hero, John Kerry.

The solution to the problem: Keep this forum and movement alive and encourage authors like Bernie Goldberg to write the accurate version of the efforts we have made to stop a pretender from becoming our Commander in Chief.

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

Also see this thread:
http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16882

I actually ordered a copy of "TOD" and it's on the way.

I'm hoping we can gather a team and break it up into blocks of pages to debunk what needs debunking. As much bunk as is in there, we'll probably need shovels.

Or a backhoe. Confused

Sign in on that thread if you're interested in starting to take a look under the hood.
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srmorton · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:13 pm Post subject:

I still go back to my point in another thread about Kerry and the MSM.
Before the election, they were determined to get him elected just to
get rid of W. Now that he has hinted at another run in 2008, they will
set about to destroy him. As the truth comes out about Kerry, the
truth will also come out about what a pack of lies TOD is.

Another thing is that the American people are not stupid. I had always
been skeptical about Brinkley when I would see him on various talk
shows - even before he wrote TOD. Those who saw him defending
John Kerry and the lies he had written about Kerry will remember
and he will be discredited in the minds of those people. It may not
cost him the chair since the university obviously does not care what
kind of propaganda it allows to be presented in its history classes,
but he will no longer be able to present himself as an objective,
scholarly historian.
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granny23 · Seaman Recruit Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 46

It appears that Brinkley's position is not only safe at UNO but other universities are interested in him, including Tulane.

http://nola.com/search/index.ssf?/base/library-61/11001600158350.xml?nola

bigchief · Seaman Recruit Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 2

Yes, Tulane is interested, but that is no prize. Tulane is one of the most liberal schools in the country. That would ok in the Northeast, but the South is pretty damn conservative. UNO is definitely nothing to be proud of, a third tier school at best.

I think Brinkley is a product of Democratic patronage, via Landrieu, Breaux, Jefferson and crew, and does his masters' bidding. If nothing else, the subject matter for the majority of his latest work are democratic icons - Carter, Kerry and Rosa Parks. On a recent talk show, he clearly indicated his political views were solidly Democratic. I find this offensive. Historians are presumably non-partisan and honest recorders of history. He, however, makes no effort to conceal his bias. He should not teach if he cannot temper his bias. Otherwise, it is political propaganda, not history. The US is not Nazi Germany or China, history should not be subject to political winds.

Jack Mclaughlin · PO3 Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 280

Be ready for an all out attack against Adm. Hoffman in the coming months by those Brinkley has recruited. These will be people who served with Adm. Hoffman during his tour in Vietnam. When asked during one of his TV interviews why he was so hard on Hoffman in his book, TOD, he responded something like this, " compared to what will be coming out about Adm. Hoffman after the election you will find that I was more than fair to him." Brinkley knows that if he can soil the reputation and credibility of the Admiral he may yet save himself.