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PhantomSgt

Hopefully the Senate ethics/intellegence commitees will review the military records pertaining to Senator Kerry (concerning his disclosures for a national security clearance) and conduct hearings into his fitness to hold such a clearance. Removal of his clearance could be a first step for him being reviewed by the Senate for a vote of expulsion.

All military records are available for review by the NSA or a clearance will not be granted. The member signs a release.

Write your Senators to ask for a review as it is hard to believe that somebody with his background would be granted a clearance without some outside influence.. Who was behind the granting of his clearance?
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PhantomSgt · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:51 pm Post subject: More evidence.

The evidence of consipricy with the enemy during a time of war was not available until the SBV found the documents. These was not available for review by those who granted Kerry a clearance or those board members who reviewed his discharge. The Senate has an obligation to investigate this and expose the truth to the people.
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GM Strong · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:58 pm Post subject:

Do not expect the Senate do anything. This is unrealistic for multiple reasons. It isn't going to happen. Mass has to vote him out and that is open to question by comparison, get rid of him and then think Bahney Fwank. Sad but true.
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PhantomSgt · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:28 pm Post subject: Rewind.

Well…. An experienced member in this forum told me on 10 September that Kerry's less than honorable discharge was not an issue the SBV believed in when I commented on how obvious it was in a posting. It appears it could have become a key issue if it was acted on earlier and exposed. It became an issue too late in the game to have any real effect or publicity.

I think you underestimate the hatred felt by the majority in the Senate against Kerry and his conduct during the campaign. I'm sure many of our elected members of the Senate would like nothing better than to expose this Charlatan to all of America and finish him off for good.
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GM Strong · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Rewind.

PhantomSgt · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:19 pm Post subject: PO

Ahhhhh.......but the highest court is the court of public opinion.

If the truth comes out and the Democrumbs try to stall, impede or vote down the action they will face the same fate as their colleagues who lost in the next round of elections. MSM cannot ignore a public Senate trial where the facts come out.

The outcome may be that Kerry survives another day but not without the light of truth shining brightly on him. He will have a bright orange tan “seared” into him thru the next round of Senate elections when he and those who voted for him are removed by the electorate.
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Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

It doesn't matter how little or how much the other Senators want to get into a particular matter or disrupt their little club - if they're hearing from their constituents that this is important to them, they will at least consider it and talk amongst themselves.

We've got to write and call our own Senators and tell them that this person has no business handling any classified material relating to national defense, at the very least. This is someone who met with the enemy and then came home and presented their "peace plan" as his own opinion. And it didn't matter how many soldiers, dead or alive, he had to step on in order to promulgate his KGB-scripted propaganda.

He has NO place on the Intelligence committees, NO place on any of the Defense Committees. It's highly doubtful that the Senate is going to take any real action against him with only the information that we have now, but if we are as diligent about this effort as we were in supporting the Swifts, we could keep this poseur out of any position of higher power and off any committees in which he might hold sway over our armed forces.
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GM Strong · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:54 am Post subject:

I fully agree with the two previous posts, but really MSM, forget it till Blather, Tom Brokejaw and Palestine Pete are gone. They spin and report nothing of consequence. He will be there till Massachusetts votes him out or he quits. The RINOs will waffle. Best to keep up the heat and hope he can't take it and fades on his own. It has to be grass roots all the way with no expectation of the Media Elites or the Senate to do a blasted thing.
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PhantomSgt · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:05 am Post subject: Media Not So Elite

The MSM is feeling the result of their biases and outright lies. The print media have been caught inflating subscription numbers to look better for potential advertisers. Circulation is way down and no improvement is in sight. The internet has taken business away from MSM and all you have to look at is the hits for the Drudge Report to see when tech savvy readers go.

ABC, NBC and cBS broadcast viewer numbers are sliding into the toilet as more and more viewers turn to cable news for their information and entertainment. Shares of MSM stocks have been sliding for the past decade and advancing technology will have most every customer fibre optic hardwired by 2020 and thus no need for broadcasts over the air, when you can send a thousand programs at the same time over a FO cable.

The SBVs used these alternate forms of transmitting information to millions of people when MSM shut them out. So who needs MSM?

Their days are numbered and they know it.
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garb1015 · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:12 pm Post subject:

The attack on John Kerry has to be from all sides. If one attack lags behind, another may be pushing ahead. Questioning his fitness to hold a security clearance and sit on intelligence and military related committees is an excellent place to start. And yes, there are members of Congress who are less than thrilled about him, both Republican and Democrat.
This war for truth must also be fought on two fronts, the other being the MSM. Not only do they need to be held accountable for their very obvious support for one candidate over another, but the American people need to be shown that they are not the only source for news and that they are not a truthful source for news.
Rather, Brokaw and Jennings will all be retiring soon. They must not be allowed to retire gracefully without answering for the injustice that they have done to the trust of the American people. This needs to be done for at least one reason. So that whoever replaces them knows where the line is drawn between reporting the news and manipulating the news.
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Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

I'm moving this to the R&R forum so that non-vets can participate in the discussion.

Thanks,

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SBD · Admiral Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 1022

I just posted this PDF documents on the SwiftBoatArchives.com website.

Document 1
UNITED STATES CODE SERVICE
TITLE 18. CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I. CRIMES
CHAPTER 115. TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES

THIS IS THE ENTIRE TEXT OF TITLE 18 INCLUDING TEST CASES AND THEIR OUTCOME

Example:

Preparation of anti--American propaganda in form of speeches, and delivering speeches, constituted treason. United
States v Burgman (1949, DC Dist Col) 87 F Supp 568, affd 88 App DC 184, 188 F2d 637, cert den 342 US 838, 96 L Ed
634, 72 S Ct 64.

First Amendment does not protect person from accountability for words which reasonably viewed constitute acts in
furtherance of enemy program to which speaker adheres and to which he gives aid with intent to betray his own country.
Gillars v United States (1950) 87 App DC 16, 182 F2d 962.
First Amendment did not guarantee defendant right to exercise freedom of speech by making anti--American speeches
on Nazi radio stations during World War II. United States v Burgman (1949, DC Dist Col) 87 F Supp 568, affd 88 App
DC 184, 188 F2d 637, cert den 342 US 838, 96 L Ed 634, 72 S Ct 64.

There is plenty of cased that clearly show that Kerry should have been tried and convicted for his crimes.

Ask your Senators:

Why others were convicted of lessor crimes and John Kerry was not?

Who decided to not to prosecute John Kerry for this clear case of Treason?

SBD

lrb111 · Captain Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 508

TEWSPilot · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:36 am Post subject:

Just following John Kerry's 20 year Senate career and his actions during his run for the Presidency this time, he is clearly guilty of aggravated vagrancy with intent to commit mopery.

PhantomSgt · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:03 am Post subject: Coconspirators

It is obvious Kerry had some high-powered Democrumbs assisting in covering his tracks and hiding the truth from the American people.

Some names come to mind as possible Coconspirators in this cover-up of epic proportions:

1. Teddy Kennedy
2. Jimmah Carter
3. Billy Clinton

Talk about nearly pulling off a fast one on an entire Nation and electing this man with no honor to our highest office. This is way beyond insipid folks. Can you imagine what else these people and their strap hangers have covered up over the years?

I truly believe we have finally discovered proof positive of the existence of dark matter in our universe.

Thank God for the Swifties and POWs, they saved our collective a^s^s.
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