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Fox news is now reporting one marine executed a wounded insurgent. He thought he was still alive......so he shot him......he said, "now he is dead". They say this is illegal in the military, but that in Iraq the insurgents are pretending to be wounded, then blowing themselves up with bombs strapped to them killing our soldiers.

The insurgents do not follow the rules of engagement. They behead us, blow us up, kill us, kidnap us, and do this to their own Muslim counter parts as well.

Yet now the MSM is taking this one incident out of context saying that in the Middle East they will look upon this as another Abu Grab.

There should not be these media mongering MSM whimps embedded with our troops. The media needs to get out of the battle field and let our men and women do their job. If everytime there is something that looks suspect, and they are reporting this around the world, how will they fight this war? How would WWII have been fought if the media then acted so irresponsibly as they do now? Not everything is the MSMs right to know and question.

Is this not why the military instituted JAG? God the MSM makes me sick. Mad

four-niner delta · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:27 pm Post subject:

The reporter who allegedly witnessed this incident I will bet was Jane Arraf of CNN. Are we surprised? The terrorists have been using the wounded and dead as decoys using IED's. In fact, this incident took place last Friday after the Marines were shot at from a mosque. The Marines returned the following day to find a number of dead terrorists and this one terrorist they are talking about was killed the day before. No story-all BS. This reporter who is embedded with the 3/5 has been filing very slanted reports for the last week. I'm surprised she wasn't "caught in the crossfire". Our troops are too good for that. CNN is making this out to be another Abu Graib. We ought to learn our lesson and do what Reagan did during the Grenada operation. Keep ALL reporters out til the killing is done. Let our soldiers do their work and they do it very well! Same old story-they behead people, leave dis-emboweled female bodies on the street and CNN won't report this. But a soldier does his job and BAM-he is at fault. With MY son in this battle, I take this personal.
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Digger · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:31 pm Post subject:

If I was in the same position I would also shoot first and ask questions later. Given the attitudes of these Islamic Fascists it would hardly be prudent to think otherwise.. They do not think as we do., Their only concern is for killing "Infidels" which is what they consider us to be.
They have undoubtedly done and will continue to do just exactly the same to us. Why should we regard them as honorable human beings? If you treat me like a dog, then I will act like one and bite your backside. Mad

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Tex · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 84

If only the media would show as much outrage over the commonplace actions of our enemy, as they do these rare isolated incidents.

And I saw that video. Apparently one of the terrorists' tactics is to "fake dead". One of our guys just made sure he wasn't faking.

Forgive me if I don't feel any sympathy.
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Guest · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:09 am Post subject:

Daniel J. Hutchison · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:21 am Post subject: Reporters

I never had much use for reporters on the battle field in the past and think even less of them now. I learned early on that you can not count on a fair reporting of the battle. On one day while in the middle of one of my small fire fights, a group of reporter heard that the enemy had suffered some losses. They asked if they could land and get some pictures. I told them no! Yet, they had their helicopter land and drop them off. I pulled the American forces out and departed with my helicopter gun cover and told the reporters the fight was theirs! I never did see any of their pictures.

Guest · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:27 am Post subject: Re: Reporters

RogerRabbit · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:12 am Post subject:

sleeplessinseattle · LCDR Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 430

commdog · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:20 am Post subject:

Didn't a certain Naval Reserve Lt (jg) receive a Silver Star for doing exactly the same thing back in Nam?
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GiveMeFreedom · PO3 Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 279 Location: Wisconsin

Amazingly, Bill O'Reilly was just sticking up for this marine. He said he could understand why the marine did what he did and mentioned the IED's, etc.

I agree, I have zero - zilcho - big ole goose-eggs , sympathy for these insurgents, terrorists or whatever they are. I would have been devastated if the marine had been blown apart with his buddies, if he tried to help the guy, and the bad guy blew up a bomb or something. But sorry, no tears for the insurgents.

I hope & pray for this marine, that he is set free to go back to duty - this is not a conventional war, and these are precarious times. Their lives hinge on a split second decision. I support him.

The only stupidity here was to let the damned reporter film it!!! Why didn't they turn off his camera or tear out his film afterwards ??? Evil or Very Mad

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misako · Ensign Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 53

MSM at it again, our marines are showing valor, skill and courage and we don't need this nonsense by MSM. 'They are not bloody insurgents, but terrorists , murderers. torturers and thugs, plain and simple. Marines have fought and sacrificed a lot for all of us. Don't think twice about saving yourselves and your buddies. The MSM can butt out.
Thank you all each and every Marine and keep cleaning out the rats 'nests everywhere in Iraq. This is war, not some stupid reality show in Iraq. God bless all our Marines and all heartfelt thanks. Ignore the MSM and do your job.

GiveMeFreedom · PO3 Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 279 Location: Wisconsin

Link to the story & video....

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6496898/
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Marquis · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:36 am Post subject:

Someone keep an eye out for that Marine! If he needs anything, I, and many others here, will step forward to support him!

I B Squidly · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:54 am Post subject:

If it can be shown the terrorist was already dying, slowly and painfully....

then the Marine should be found guilty of wasting two rounds of ammunition.