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Stevie

On tonight's show, Bor likened Moore's movie 'demonizing' Bush to Swifties doing the same to Kerry!

He is talking to Judge Napolitano about the Peterson verdict. He says that they spent 5 months making the jury hate Peterson. (oh really? it took that long?)

So obviously, bor still thinks the Swifties are lying. and his 'research' was correct. I think his 'research' consisted of asking Brinkley!

he has never (that I saw or read on here) brought to light any FACTS that were not correct. If he could prove them, he would!

email to bor! Twisted Evil

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Stevie
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged.

Anker-Klanker · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:14 am Post subject:

BTW, "his" research was done by Chris Wallace. I don't think Wallace looked into the story very well - almost superficially - but that was what constituted BOR's "research."

DaveL · Commander Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 300

here is the BOR quote about the SVPT tonight, talking first about Michael Moore, and then he says:

Stevie · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:10 am Post subject:

after bor had John on, on another show, he said that 'some' of the things in UFC were true, and some were not.... but he never said 'what was not'; I think if he is gonna say that, he should tell what he thinks isn't and what HIS proof is that they aren't. I will ask him that in my email.
He only had JOhn on because of the poll he took and the majority wanted more on the swifties.... he needs lots of emails asking WHAT he thinks is NOT TRUE and why!
does anyone know if John saw that show? and if he contacted bor to find out WHAT bor thinks is not true? BOR did not (of course) bring that up on the show with John on it!

Wallace had an 'interview' with a Swiftie and Hurley? it was stupid. He didn't do any research for his own 'interview'. Except to know their names, the group they were with , what war etc. That's about it.
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Stevie
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged.

Snipe · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject:

Huh! Mixing apples and oranges. Moore did it for money.
Swifties did it for honor.
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Doc Jerry K · Seaman Recruit Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Posts: 41

BOR is an alleged sexual harrasser and perv. His credibility in anything he does is vacant.

Dimsdale · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:44 pm Post subject:

No one could have looked impartially at the evidence the SVPT have accumulated and come to any conclusion that they are either correct, or that Kerry has bigger beasties in his military record than this.

Moore is demostrably lying, as Dave Kopel has, and continues to document (http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm).
To compare the two is simply impossible.

BOR was simply too infatuated with a loofah and his producer to bother to even take a cursory look at the evidence the Swiftees have so meticulously compiled.
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Jerry M · Ensign Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 57

Don't forget BOR came out against the Swift boat vets comparing them to MoveOn, Michael Moore and other left wing 527's before he did any research at all and before he had even read the book "Unfit for Command". It was only after he took a lot of heat that he begrudgingly shifted his position ever so slightly. His ego is way too inflated for him to actually admit he was wrong. This guy is a hypocrit of the highest order and is not worth watching or listening to.

He is also likely a pervert in the Michael Jackson mold. Looks like he had to buy off his accuser for millions.

ScottyDog · Ensign Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 68 Location: Mexifornia

He may have admitted he was wrong after the John O'Neil meaculpa segment but his actions and words since then have demonstrated he detests the SBVT.

Bottom Line, He continues to refer to the Swifties as a hate group. Just like he continues to refer to John Kerry as a Patriot.

If BOR cannot see the difference he is a moron or a elitist snob.

My 78 year old mother watched last nights segment and remarked; What is wrong with this guy?

Indeed.

Largebill · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:07 am Post subject: O'Reilly's credibility

I'm not surprised that he would make that comparison. He is always trying to be on each side of most issues. This is the same clown who doesn't believe there is a connection between taking out Sadaam and the War on Terrorism.

Tobette · Lt.Jg. Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 124 Location: Illinois

I have no interest in the opinions of anyone who shamefully disrespects Amercian veterans the way BOR does. He can no longer be trusted as a fair and balanced "No Spin" man. He stubbornly, and ignorantly, associated honorable men with sleazy anti-American trash, indicating he is not who he portrays himself to be.

Jack Mclaughlin · PO3 Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 280

If I had to choose the 5 most dishonest, diingenuous, despicable, pretentious, egotistical people in academia and the media today BOR would top my list.

The other 4 would be Dan Rather, Douglas Brinkley, Geraldo Rivera and Chris Matthews.

Nothing makes my blood boil more than to see the media (even Fox) treat John O`Neill as a contemptous liar while showing the utmost respect for Douglas Brinkley. And Fox is supposed to be on our side. Give me a break.

peter · Lieutenant Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 214

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ord33 · Rear Admiral Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 670 Location: Ohio

What is so frustrating about all this is that the media "discredits" the SwiftVets claims by running in circles. O'Reilly's initial questioning of Mr. O'Neill if I remember was about the SwiftVets and who served in who's boat and of John O'Neill meeting with President Nixon and about Larry Thurlow's Silver Star... So basically, O'Reilly asks questions the media had posed (not SwiftVet claims) and then says the "allegations arent true". The problem is...The SwiftVets never claimed any of this crap. It isnt necessary to disclose that Larry Thurlow received a Silver Star on March 13th (but it was explained by the SwiftVets when the issue arose), and then they bring up Nixon...Mr. O'Neill never claimed to not have met with President Nixon and has answered all questions about it directly. In fact, the media frequently mixes up the situation, stating O'Neill met Nixon BEFORE he debated Kerry, which is incorrect. Then you have the whole who served with who nonsense. It seems to me like the media fabricates "claims/allegations" the SwiftVets make, and then say well what really happened was this. O'Reilly took at least half of the interview with O'Neill on what other media outlets were saying. The things he found "discredited" were things the SwiftVets never claimed in the first place---Meeting with Nixon, Thurlow's Bronze Star, & who served with who and when...The only actual discussion in the O'Reilly interview that could have been construed in any way as "discrediting" the SwiftVets ACTUAL claims was the no enemy fire on March 13th, but O'Reilly didnt come to a conclusion on this, as he called it "fog of war" or something to that effect. So basically, O'Reilly (nor other media for that matter) has directly refuted an actual SwiftVet claim in my opinion. Yet you have Kerry recanting on at least 3 or 4 major things....With practically no media pressure or questioning, meanwhile the SwiftVets faced fierce questioning from every interview and stood proud and strong in the fire!