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USAF66-70 Lt.Jg.
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 136
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:56 pm Post subject: Kerry still scrutinizing Ohio |
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From Cleveland Plain Dealer, Thursday, November 11, 2004, Scott Hiaasen, Reporter:
Kerry campaign scrutinizes Ohio, Checks provisional ballots, other issues
Lawyers with John Kerry's presidential campaign are gathering information from Ohio election boards about uncounted ballots and other unresolved issues from last week's election.
Attorneys say they are not trying to challenge the election but are only carrying out Kerry's promise to make sure that all the votes in Ohio are counted. They describe this effort, which began this week, as a "fact-finding mission."
Unofficial totals give President Bush a 136,000-vote advantage over Kerry in Ohio, but the totals won't be certified until early next month.
Dan Hoffheimer, the statewide counsel for the Kerry campaign, said the goal is to identify any voting problems to prevent them in the future - and quell doubts about the legitimacy of the Ohio election being raised on the Internet.
"We're not expecting to change the outcome of the election," Hoffheimer said. "We want to be sure that the public knows what really happened."
The campaign's inquiries come against a backdrop of increasing hysteria among Internet activists who, in chains of e-mails and articles, claim that Ohio's election was so riddled with problems that the outcome may not be legitimate.
For example, a confusing counting method used in Cuyahoga County's election totals wrongly suggests that more than two dozen suburbs had more votes than voters. And a computer glitch in Franklin County added nearly 3,900 phantom votes for Bush in one precinct.
"There were enough problems reported around the state that undermined people's confidence," Hoffheimer said.
The Kerry campaign has compiled a list of more than 30 questions for local election officials, asking about the number of absentee and provisional ballots, any reports of equipment malfunctions on election night, and any ballots that still listed third-party challenger Ralph Nader as a candidate. (Nader was removed from the ballot by Secretary of State Ken Blackwell.)
As of yesterday, the attorneys had not yet contacted the Cuyahoga County's elections director, Michael Vu.
Election officials cannot begin to officially canvass the ballots until Saturday. But in Cuyahoga County, they have begun reviewing provisional ballots to make sure the voters are registered and did not vote more than once.
This review process is being monitored by representatives of both political parties. Mark Griffin, a Democratic lawyer, said he's worried that some provisional ballots - special ballots given to voters who believe they are registered but who don't appear on the voter rolls - may be discarded because poll workers failed to sign the ballot envelope as required.
But election officials said they would count these provisional ballots if the voter's signature matched the one in their records.
About 155,000 provisional ballots were cast in Ohio, including nearly 25,000 in Cuyahoga County. Whether these ballots are counted is a decision left to the local election boards, which are each made up of two Democrats and two Republicans.
Cleveland Plain Dealer
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smalltowngirl Seaman Recruit
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 22 Location: Philly
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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that smug Keith Ohlbermann on MSNBC's "Countdown" is trying to fan the flames on this. I read at the Media Research Center site what he's been ranting about all last week. Hate that guy. _________________ "we stand at a crease in history". Gen.Tommy Franks,American Soldier |
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RogerRabbit Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 748 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Attorneys say they are not trying to challenge the election but are only carrying out Kerry's promise to make sure that all the votes in Ohio are counted. They describe this effort, which began this week, as a "fact-finding mission." |
Yeah, Sure just like my neighbor down the street who still has his kerry signs on his lawn - just cannot bear to admit they were defeated - Get over it you lost _________________ "Si vis pacem, para bellum" |
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wwIIvetsdaughter Captain
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 513 Location: McAllen, Texas
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:31 am Post subject: |
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News to the "fact finding commission": fact, you lost, get over it. |
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Anker-Klanker Admiral
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 1033 Location: Richardson, TX
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Attorneys say they are not trying to challenge the election but are only carrying out Kerry's promise to make sure that all the votes in Ohio are counted. |
Caught in their hypocracy again! Pennsylvania supposedly had far worse problems, and the margin of loss for Bush was far less in PA then the margin of loss for Kerry in OH. Or if nothing else, those DEM lawyers could at least be sure the military vote in PA was counted. |
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Inatizzy Former Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 439
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:00 am Post subject: |
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Have ya'll checked out the "underground" forum lately? The moonbats really are having a nuclear meltdown over there.
They're still blubbering about how there was disenfranchisment and fraud and how they can't believe Kerry didn't file lawsuits and contest the election. They just KNOW Bush stole the election again.
It's really sad. Someone should go over there and hand out bibs for when they start drooling. Poor schmucks.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! |
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Bring it on.....in the end they still are the fools we know they are, only bigger fools. |
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