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Mary Ann Parker · LCDR Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 406

I am posting this article separately from the woven web of all
things Kerry.

My reason is to make everyone aware that clean or dirty, those
journals are supposed to become public.

As you know, it was Brinkley who helped pique the interest of
the media in the Swiftees contention that Kerry was not telling
the truth. We have that documented in many places.

I just wanted this to be quickly available for anyone that needed
to know. It became more immediate when Kerry started his
rumors of a lawsuit against Regenery Press and John O'Neill.

Just FYI
Mary Ann
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http://www.bestofneworleans.com/dispatch/2002-11-12/news_feat2.html

NEWS FEATURE 11 12 02

UNO Acquires John Kerry's Vietnam Journals

Douglas Brinkley says the journals will help launch a new direction for the Eisenhower Center -- and a new book about Kerry.

By Michael Tisserand A year before he is expected to officially launch his bid for the White House, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry is donating his extensive materials related to both his military service in Vietnam and his efforts protesting the war to the Eisenhower Center for American Studies at University of New Orleans, says Eisenhower Center director Douglas Brinkley.

* Read rest of story on the link.
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Mary Ann Parker · LCDR Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 406

Great find!!!!

Here's a link to the book's reviews. Note the people and what they had to say. No wonder each of these people were pissed when "Unfit for Command" hit the streets.

http://www.uno.edu/%7Eeice/projects_publications_duty.htm

- Chief

Anker-Klanker · Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:11 pm Post subject:

It is not uncommon for material like this to have conditions and restrictions applied as to who has access to the material. Anyone who wants to see this should proceed cautiously and reveal as little about why you want to see it as possible. In fact, I'd recommend that the members of this forum organize a designated research team (with "cover story," if necessary), and that everyone else stay away from it.

d19thdoc · Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:09 am Post subject:

This "donation" of documents was in 2002, as was this article. So what happened to Brinkley's protest only recently that Kerry had exclusive control over his diaries, and reporters should ". . . go ask him (Kerry) . . . " for any data from them?

Kerry had tried to dodge some questions about his Vietnam diaries by saying they were not under his control, but Brinkley's, which seems to agree with this "donation" to Brinkley's center. But Brinkley denied that.

Nest of liars.
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Anker-Klanker · Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 3:07 am Post subject:

Didn't catch the 2002 date. This, then, may mean exactly what I meant.

True story - my great uncle was a "tent mate" of Col. Harold Johnson, later Chief of Staff for the Army under LBJ, while they were both POWs in a Japanese POW camp in the Philippines. I learned that Johnson kept a set of diaries during his internment, and that they were in the archives at the War College in PA. Since they undoubtedly mentioned my great uncle, I wanted to see them. What I learned was that I could ONLY access them by getting one of Harold Johnson's living relatives to write a letter to the director of the archives authorizing me to see them. I did and did see them.

This sounds like the same kind of deal, and neither would be technically lying. Brinkley could correctly say that you had to get permission from Kerry, and Kerry could correctly say that it (or they) were in the control/possession of Brinkley.

But one way or the other, it doesn't sound like anybody who is even remotely connected to the SVPT will ever get access to them.

d19thdoc · Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:35 am Post subject:

Anker-Klanker wrote:

LewWaters · Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:50 am Post subject:

In the Boston Globe article glorifying his life, there is a section of his journal included that is labeled, “Excerpt from a type-written journal kept by John F. Kerry during his tour of duty in the Vietnam War.” From everything I’ve read here and elsewhere the past few months, Kerry didn’t carry a typewriter with him. This leads me to believe much of his “journal” and diary was written at his leisure, after his return. I’d be willing to put money down that he has made sure what is now being released has been well sanitized too.

Kerry Journal Excerpt
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cgc · Seaman Recruit Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 47

What a silly load of crap, That journal excerpt is the stupidest thing I have ever read about Viet Nam, I wonder if he actually believes himself.

CGC

Timberwolf · Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:23 pm Post subject:

From Kerry journal:
"You wake up with a start thinking that something is wrong and you grab the bars over your rack and swing down onto the metallic deck in the main cabin. Suddenly you are really awake and realize sheepishly that the startled concern that consumes you is prompted only by the conglomeration of noises that fill POF 44 and the fitful sleep that has characterized the nights on patrol"

I have a question for a Swift Vet. From what Ive read the swiftboats were on 12 hr. patrols, not 24/7 shifts, which would require every one to get some sleep whenever they could. So were you really allowed to sleep while on patrol, or would this be considered deriliction of duty? Rolling Eyes

d19thdoc · Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:35 pm Post subject:

Timberwolf wrote:

d19thdoc · Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject:

LewWaters wrote:

Mary Ann Parker · LCDR Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 406

Guys,
Read this post very carefully.
Notice the item about Kerry having a handler, etc.
Also, make a timeline of the contradictions in Kerry's version of
most everything versus others.
???
Mary Ann

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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:09 pm

Post subject: Interesting read regarding jfk PH

cgc · Seaman Recruit Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 47

All of my patrols were at least 24 hours long I don't know of any 12 hour patrols but there might of been some. When we left base it was always for 24 hours, sometimes longer.

cgc 68-69 PCF Crew 6C

Anker-Klanker · Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:23 pm Post subject:

lrb111 · Captain Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 508