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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 972 Location: GUAM, USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: Our So-Called Friends |
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It is amazing how many of our so-called friends in the world were involved in Saddam's underhanded dealings. It is apparent they had a real good thing going until the USA went in and screwed it up for them. No wonder they are not happy with us.
The French had billions of dollars in trade and the Russians were not far behind. It is in their best interest that we fail in Iraq so they can go back to business as usual.
Iran is involved in the same way you can be sure with both of these countries and I imagine Syria is too. When does the USA finally say enough is enough and put a stop to this nonsense? I have a few suggestions for the new administration:
First: Break off diplomatic relations with France and list them as a “State Sponsor of Terror”, for their behavior in the Oil for Food scandal, their continued support of Iran and Syria and the statements made by their leaders. We have had fewer problems with Castro in the last decade than with Chirac and his socialist government. Of course France should be expelled from NATO and any other trade or bi-lateral agreements terminated. This may wake the French people up to the need for regime change in France if they want to play in our sandbox.
Second: The third world run United Nations needs to be put on notice. When you ignored the UN sanctions and traded with Saddam you violated a trust and now the credibility of the organization is nearly beyond repair. Kofi is the Captain of a sinking ship and I am sure he will bail before it goes to the bottom. When the heads of member states are directly implicated in the undermining of our efforts to curb terror, pull their UN credentials and tell them by sundown to get out of Dodge. It is our country and we get to say who stays, UN or not. Foreign aid and any other support for the expelled country will be immediately terminated.
Third: Put each and every nation on notice who is developing, storing or hiding WMD/s that we know who they are and have targeted their industrial and population centers with our nuclear arsenal. In the case that WMD/s are used in this or any other country involved with the war on terror, we will launch a full-scale retaliatory nuclear attack against them to prevent transfer of such materials in the future. Fess up now like Libya recently did or place your future existence on this planet in jeopardy.
We have been tossing softballs for far too long and the time has come to put some fast hardballs right into the strike zone.
Do any of you have some suggestions? Comment here. _________________ Retired AF E-8
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:48 pm Post subject: A little help here |
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Hey you all must have some better ideas than I wrote about. I'm ready to lay waste to them with nuclear weapons if we are attacked. Come on folks what would you do if you were King or Queen for a day? _________________ Retired AF E-8
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GenrXr Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 1720 Location: Houston
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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We need to end our 7 billion a year donation to the UN. This organization is anti-semetic and since 45' has sought to overthrow the jewish state of Israel. During president Clintons term they allowed 1 million christians to die to muslims in Rawanda and are currently trying to impede any progess in curbing the slaughter of christians in the Sudan. 800,000 christians dead and counting in the Sudan and Bush's hands are tied over the global anti-christian/judiasm secularist/isalmist outlook of our enemies. The evil we face with the absence of god in secularist nations as well as with the radical islamic theology are equally evil and must be dealt with. _________________ "An activist is the person who cleans up the water, not the one claiming its dirty."
"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to stand by and do nothing." Edmund Burke (1729-1797), Founder of Conservative Philosophy |
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Rurik PO3
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 251 Location: Daschle-cleansed Free South Dakota
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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1. Do NOT break off relations with France. - Its easier to stick a knife in when they're closer.
1a. Start sticking that knife. Reduce official representation. PNG most of their diplomats and officals, But withdraw ours first, so they won't have room for tit-for-tat. End all military cooperation. End most favorned nation status. Ban sales of sensitive technologies to France or to any country which passes such technology along to France. Since the French gave blank passports to the Iraqis,and who knows who else, treat all French passports as suspect. Expel French journalists.
1b. Wiggle the knife and twist it. Calculate the additional expense we endured as a result of their obstruction in the UN and their military aid to Iraq, and present France with a reparations bill. That should run to a few billions of dollars. Then add on aditional prorated charges for our share of the losses suffered in the oil for food scam. And inform them that we still expect them to pay their outstanding war depts from WWI & WWII, with interest. File criminal indictments against Chirac deVillageporn,and other senior leaders. Issue a State Department advisory to all US Citizens that travel in France is not recommended, that Americans' safety in France cannot be assured and you travel there at your own hazard.
2. The UN. Announce our withdrawal from the UN, to take effect within 3 days time. simultaneously inform the UN that we are withdrawing recognition,and cancelling all diplomatic immunities of all UN personnel, effective within 72 hours,and order them all out of the country within 72 hours. Promise that we will send UN records and movable property to the organization's new home at a late date,when the new home is established. then enforce that 72 hour deadline. Finally, audit and inspect all documents before forrwarding to their new addrress. _________________ Hating John Kerry continuously since 1971.
Essayons!
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 972 Location: GUAM, USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:50 pm Post subject: Our friends? |
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Rurik wrote: | Expel French journalists.
1b. Wiggle the knife and twist it. Calculate the additional expense we endured as a result of their obstruction in the UN and their military aid to Iraq, and present France with a reparations bill. That should run to a few billions of dollars. Then add on aditional prorated charges for our share of the losses suffered in the oil for food scam. And inform them that we still expect them to pay their outstanding war depts from WWI & WWII, with interest. File criminal indictments against Chirac deVillageporn,and other senior leaders. Issue a State Department advisory to all US Citizens that travel in France is not recommended, that Americans' safety in France cannot be assured and you travel there at your own hazard.
2. The UN. Announce our withdrawal from the UN, to take effect within 3 days time. simultaneously inform the UN that we are withdrawing recognition,and cancelling all diplomatic immunities of all UN personnel, effective within 72 hours,and order them all out of the country within 72 hours. Promise that we will send UN records and movable property to the organization's new home at a late date,when the new home is established. then enforce that 72 hour deadline. Finally, audit and inspect all documents before forrwarding to their new addrress. |
Can we still nuke them later? Great Ideas!
One more thing.......can we let our real friends stay around and help? There are mountains of documents to review and we might need some help. _________________ Retired AF E-8
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scotty61 LCDR
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 419 Location: Glyndon MN
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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We should revoke their dimplomatic immunity, make them pay all the parking fines they've accumulated and arrest any who have violated any of our laws. _________________ John Kerry. A Neville Chamberlain for our times. |
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 972 Location: GUAM, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:15 am Post subject: |
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scotty61 wrote: | We should revoke their dimplomatic immunity, make them pay all the parking fines they've accumulated and arrest any who have violated any of our laws. |
Sounds like another Softball to me Scotty. We need to hit em hard with fastballs in the chest, so they are backing out of the batter's box the next time they face us.
STRONG MESSAGES REAP RESULTS!! _________________ Retired AF E-8
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Rurik PO3
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 251 Location: Daschle-cleansed Free South Dakota
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Our friends? |
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PhantomSgt wrote: | Can we still nuke them later? Great Ideas!
One more thing.......can we let our real friends stay around and help? There are mountains of documents to review and we might need some help. |
No moral objections to nuking them later, but I have a personal preference for thermobarics myself.
Of course let our real friends stay. The Brits, Izzies, Ausies; how is pulling UN diplomatic immunity going to cramp their style. They, nor we, would likely notice the difference. Let their govts. request they be seconded to their embassies. Should be sorted out before Happy Hour. Yes, and lets include the Italians and the New Europeans too. They've also been good. But not the Snow Weasels or the Pepper Weasels _________________ Hating John Kerry continuously since 1971.
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:34 am Post subject: Re: Our friends? |
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[quote="Rurik"] PhantomSgt wrote: |
No moral objections to nuking them later, but I have a personal preference for thermobarics myself.
Of course let our real friends stay. The Brits, Izzies, Ausies; how is pulling UN diplomatic immunity going to cramp their style. They, nor we, would likely notice the difference. Let their govts. request they be seconded to their embassies. Should be sorted out before Happy Hour. Yes, and lets include the Italians and the New Europeans too. They've also been good. But not the Snow Weasels or the Pepper Weasels |
Your right Rurik, dropping some BLU82/s could be one answer. They are a little heavy and bulky to be attached on a cruise missile and the G-11 parachutes might slow them down. It would be ok if you own the sky since a C-130 is a low and slow target. _________________ Retired AF E-8
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Digger Commander
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 321 Location: Lakemont,Gerogia
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 4:10 am Post subject: |
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Rurik,Scotty and Phantom Sgt: I think all of your ideas are good. I've often thought along much the same lines myself. I like the selective use of tac nukes where appropriate but I think they should be used only as a last resort when every other avenue of approach has been exhausted.
Even the biggest a**hole can smarten up when he realizes that he has no other choice. The biggest problem that we have thus far faced is the fact that we somehow allowed other options to be offered to both Saddam and Kim. The ball was in our park and we dropped it. We cannot allow that to happen again. We can start by really kicking A** in the CIA, FBI and STATE DEPT. You'ld think the government was made of Swiss cheese the way it's holed out. We 've first got to plug the security leaks and get rid of the party favour pimps put in by the Clinton admin. That we get rid of all of the OLD GUARD Washington bureaucracy. We should retain a few of the OLD GUARD who can contribute from their knowledge of the system, but they shouldn't be allowed to accrue any real power. When we've got our own house in order then we can address the rest of the world _________________ Hey swifty, I'm with you, Just watch you don't get "Kerry'd away in the propwash
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blue9t3 Admiral
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 1246 Location: oregon
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:36 am Post subject: Good Buds! |
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Good Buds! |
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Hey that looks like some of New Yorks' Finest Cold Duck they're drinking. _________________ Retired AF E-8
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: Chile is a Prime Example |
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Can you imagine considering the times we are in, the President of Chile would balk at having several hundred guests pass thru a metal detector before a State Dinner? Incredible!
Sometimes it just pays to stay home and miss the photo ops in the ponchos. Putin was not a happy camper with the poncho. _________________ Retired AF E-8
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AD Seaman Recruit
Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Rurik wrote: |
2. Announce our withdrawal from the UN, to take effect within 3 days time. simultaneously inform the UN that we are withdrawing recognition,and cancelling all diplomatic immunities of all UN personnel, effective within 72 hours,and order them all out of the country within 72 hours. Promise that we will send UN records and movable property to the organization's new home at a late date,when the new home is established. then enforce that 72 hour deadline. Finally, audit and inspect all documents before forrwarding to their new addrress. |
I like this idea.
The US contributes the most funding to the UN.
They turn around to work against the US. That's ridiculous _________________ http://geocities.com/villinois |
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USAFE5 PO2
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 362 Location: Reno Nevada
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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AD wrote: | Rurik wrote: |
2. Announce our withdrawal from the UN, to take effect within 3 days time. simultaneously inform the UN that we are withdrawing recognition,and cancelling all diplomatic immunities of all UN personnel, effective within 72 hours,and order them all out of the country within 72 hours. Promise that we will send UN records and movable property to the organization's new home at a late date,when the new home is established. then enforce that 72 hour deadline. Finally, audit and inspect all documents before forrwarding to their new addrress. |
I like this idea.
The US contributes the most funding to the UN.
They turn around to work against the US. That's ridiculous |
They must exit the building with only their personal items - purses, briefcases, etc. will be visually examined for content. All remaining items will be reviewed to determine correct ownership (most of it is ours cuz we paid for it) and if items are deamed returnable, arrangements will be made to ship them to proper owner at that owner's expense. And if these arrangements are not made promptly a fee for impound will be assessed. All items not claimed within 30 days of notice will be sold at auction to the highest bidder and all proceeds will be retained by seller. _________________ "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I’m here to help." Ronald Reagan |
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