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Stevie
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FDL, thanks for the more info on what Horowitz is up to on this.... I'll read up on it at the link you gave....
I also just heard tonight on Scarborough (Pat B) a Heather Todd (actress) speaking up for the ACLU who is against a government site supporting abstinence for our young people - it mentions God and the commandments.... the opposing lady finally spoke up and said that christian tax money is also used for it.... Heather sited the old NOT THERE 'separation' of church and state.... I'm so sick of this - thinking of putting a big GOD sign in my yard!
there's been a lot on the news today - think I've heard at least 4 reasons now that Kerry has given as to why he lost the election - he blames the media (fox and right wing radio), his get out the vote deal, OBL (he didn't have time to tell people he could protect them better - only 4 days) etc... others blamws the swifties, his inability to convince people he could deal with the war/terrorists etc....and the dems are ticked he held on to that 15M dollars!
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[quote="Anker-Klanker"] | Quote: | | ...that communism is a thing of the past, and that I am out of my mind, or as I was told recently that I've "gone far right." So, if you say the word "communism," you are a radical I guess. |
I, for one, have decided I will NOT be politically correct
any longer....politically correct is a tool that is being used;
as is revisionist history...
| Quote: | | Remember that these people have a long (and successful) history of disinformation! Yes, calling them communists dates you and brands you as some kind of out-of-touch, can't-quit-living-in-the-past right-wing fanatic. They have changed their name to Progressives. Same people, same objective, just a different name. But a huge percentage of the population of the US doesn't recognize this "disguise." So if you want to fight them, then one of the first orders of business is to expose the term "progressive" as standing for exactly the same thing as "communist," "socialist," "left-wing liberal." |
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| Quote: | | The communists/socialists/far-left-wingers/progressives have for years infiltrated the social infrastructure into positions of influence in selected fields. This is where I think they are most dangerous, simply because they are so influential. The two areas that stand out are in the fields of education (particularly at the college and university level), and in the media (and particularly in the news end of it, though Lollywood can also influence the younger generations). The third area where they've infiltrated is the traditional area that has always been fertile hunting grounds for the communists is the labor unions. Labor unions seem to be on the decline, but they still exert lots of social influence through elections, and one labor union in particular strikes me as very dangerous: the NEA (because it is both a labor union as well as an influence on education, and because it seems to be the one labor union going against the trend, i.e., it is on the rise instead of the decline). |
You forgot to mention they have managed to get elected
and hold office - congressional. I've posted this in prior posts.
| Quote: | | It seems to me that the first priority in fighting back, besides exposing "progressives" as modern-day "communists," is with the news media. The "news" has the power to produce more immediate results for their cause; labor unions and education-infiltration are rather slow-response mechanisms. Plus, as we've seen the news can cover-up anything threatened to be exposed, as well as launch vicious attacks against "the truth." In fact, "the news" protects labor union and education infiltrations, and all other fields where progressives have infiltrated (e.g., Civil Rights lawyers). If we could get rid of this shield, then the other elements would be exposed and fall much quicker. |
The problem is that the media is not going to cooperate in their
downfall. New media is the weapon available...i.e., bloggers,
and new internet media outlets such as Townhall, the ones that
sprang up during the campaign to take back America...etc.
They are the counterweight....
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Beatrice1000
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| Becky wrote: | I, for one, have decided I will NOT be politically correct
any longer....politically correct is a tool that is being used; as is revisionist history... |
EXACTLY, and thanks for bringing this issue up. I’ve pulled a few things at random off the web in this regard.
(Add to “TO DO LIST”: remove PC grip on our culture -- take on after the Holidays....   )
This is one “rule” (or should I say “tool”) of the Far Left that John O’Neill and the Swifts tore to pieces head-on -- and for that alone, they had my love, admiration and support from the very start. “This man is unfit for command.” YEAH!! Revolutionary. The Left is STILL reeling from that adacious “insult” -- the insult of being scrutinized, of being questionned, of hearing an opinion that is not of their own making -- and worse yet, an opinion that dares to defy their position.
| Quote: | “Political Correctness in Germany” by Claus Nordbruch (6/12/99)
The Social Danger of Stifling Free Expression
Political Correctness, derived from an essentially well-intentioned "Code of Conduct," has become an instrument of moralistic terror in Germany. The self-appointed "politically correct" think of themselves as the sole possessors of the truth, and refuse anyone else the right to differ. .... (note 1:... Klaus J. Groth writes that "PC means, in fact, incorrectness, & comes close to being a liturgy of inhuman thought & struggle stereotyping, of leftist pressure for conformity, and finally, of censorship.")
Assault on Differentiation
....The direct consequence of enforcing politically correct modes of behavior, which can be observed daily in much of the German media, is the creation of a sexless, inexpressive and uniform mode of speech, one driven by political calculation. .......
Fighting Against Thought Control
Today it is especially important to fight against restrictions of free thought in scholarship, research and education. Especially in these fields PC often impedes serious work by tabooizing from the outset certain research projects and problem areas, thereby putting them off-limits to investigation. ....
Revisionism in the Physical Sciences
......When he begins his scholarly work, the historian questions or reexamines the starting premises, the previous findings & the current state of research. Today, however, if he proceeds to conduct research on this basis, he is already suspect in the eyes of the politically correct. But scholarly research cannot be conducted except by investigating existing premises and by not assuming existing conclusions to be correct. Otherwise we would still be thinking that the earth is flat.
Barriers to Thought Instead of Discussion
..."Make your political opponents contemptible instead of respecting them with counter-arguments, & thereby establish your position in a broad spectrum as the single force to be taken seriously." ... PC sets up rigid barriers to thought that block an open discussion aimed at solving problems, & thus impedes further intellectual development. ... Freedom of research must not be restricted by any power that prescribes in advance what may be considered true. Otherwise research threatens to become the ideological instrument of an opinion cartel, and thus of a power cartel, and in so doing to lose its standing as a precondition of intellectually robust and creative people. PC is a threat to a politically free state, because ultimately it will produce a state of like-minded conformity and ideological uniformity. ... ** ARTICLE ** |
| Quote: | Introductory Guide to "Political Correctness" -- or, Help In Understanding How Words are Used to Attempt Liberal Thought Control over An Entire Country
To understand the world of "politically correct" liberal fascism in words & expression, the following explanations are intended to help normal people avoid misunderstandings and awkward encounters with the Politically Correct Liberal Thought Police.... "Fairness": what happens when liberals get their way. "Unfairness": when "liberals" do not get their way. .... ** SOURCE ** |
| Quote: | “A Child’s first P.C. Thanksgiving” by Rex W. Huppke (11/24/03)
A group of Skokie 1st graders got an unexpected lesson in cultural sensitivity Friday when their principal wouldn't let them dress as American Indians for their annual Thanksgiving celebration. ... Liscio said he couldn't find a way to make his daughter understand why she couldn't wear her pilgrim outfit. ... "This is a tradition that was changed in the blink of an eyelid because one person complained. We're just bent over so far backward to be politically correct that we're doing things that are almost nonsensical." .... ** ARTICLE ** |
| Quote: | “A PC Christmas” by David Montgomery (12/26/02)
... The other day, he was singing “We Wish You a Merry Christmas” with his five year-old daughter when she interrupted to say that he had to sing “We wish you a happy holiday” instead, because one of her teachers doesn’t celebrate Christmas. .. . It is a sad thing when the bulk of the people are forced to give up the things they hold dear because some random individual might possibly have their feelings hurt... The message of Christmas is one of hope, peace, and joy.... One need not believe in the birth of Christ to honor a day that stands for such goodness. If we continue to allow these grade school Grinches to take this day from us and our children, we have only ourselves to blame. ** ARTICLE ** |
| Quote: | “Hate Crimes in our Future?” by Robert W. Tracinski (11/17/03)
Leaders from both parties -- Rep. Sen. Orrin Hatch & Dem. Ted Kennedy -- have vowed to push through a new, wide-reaching federal "hate crimes" bill before the end of the current session. .... But to subject someone to trial & punishment on the basis of his ideas -- regardless of how despicable those ideas might be -- constitutes a politicization of criminal law. Why, for example, should a racist be prosecuted for the special crime of targeting blacks, while the Unabomber is not subject to special prosecution for his hatred of scientists and business executives? The only answer is that the Unabomber's ideas are considered more "politically correct" than the racist's. A "hate crimes" law would expand the law's concern from criminal action to "criminal thought." It would institute the premise that the purpose of our legal system is not to defend the rights of the victim, but to punish socially unacceptable ideas. This is a premise that should be abhorrent to a free society. ... The first official step on this deadly path, the creation of a special category of "hate crimes," should be resoundingly rejected. It is an attempt to import into America's legal system a class of crimes formerly reserved only to dictatorships: political crimes. ....
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| Quote: | British Man Denied Parole, Ruled “A Threat to Burglars” by Val MacQueen (1/28/03)
Tony Martin ... a middle-aged man who, until two and one half years ago, lived a quiet, unexceptional life in a remote farmhouse in Norfolk... Fatefully, in August 1999, two Gypsies broke into Martin’s home while he slept. In a blind panic the 55 year-old Martin took his gun out of the cupboard, crept down the stairs & fired three shots blindly into the dark ... One was wounded..The second shot killed 17 year old Fred Barras. ... Martin became a hero in Britain, a country where self-defense has been legislated away in a mush of Princess Diana-esque "emotional intelligence."..... Martin was found guilty of murder. ... He has now served two and one-half years & he came up before the Parole Board two weeks ago. ...But he was refused parole because he has failed to show remorse. .. He still thinks he had a right to protect himself and his property. If he’d shown remorse and expressed Clintonian pain for Fred Barras’s death, he would be out today. But he’s made of sterner stuff and refused to wrap himself in the mantle of political thought fascism. That he has shown no remorse led the Orwellian Parole Board to refuse him freedom on the grounds that he poses a "threat to burglars." ...... And Fred Barras’s mother is suing Tony Martin for wrongful death.
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kate
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| Quote: | I, for one, have decided I will NOT be politically correct any longer ....politically correct is a tool that is being used;
as is revisionist history... |
this bears repeating...again, and again....
I got off the politically correct bandwagon a while ago. Need shields up, it can be dangerous waters...
great thread!
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fortdixlover
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[quote="Becky"] | Anker-Klanker wrote: | | Quote: | | ...that communism is a thing of the past, and that I am out of my mind, or as I was told recently that I've "gone far right." So, if you say the word "communism," you are a radical I guess. |
I, for one, have decided I will NOT be politically correct
any longer....politically correct is a tool that is being used;
as is revisionist history... |
Good for you.
Everyone should study up on how "PC" has run amock at the universities. Sites such as http://www.thefire.org and http://www.noindoctrination.org are very revealing.
By the way, the origins of the term "politically correct" meant "correct towards leftist views" and originated in academia, I believe.
The Water Buffalo incident at the University of Pennsylvania in the early 1990's was memorable:
On the night of January 13, 1993, Eden Jacobowitz, a freshman at the University of Pennsylvania, had been writing a paper for an English class when a sorority began celebrating its Founders' Day beneath the windows of his high-rise dormitory apartment. The women were singing very loudly, chanting, and stomping. It had prevented him from writing, and it had awakened his roommate. He shouted out the window, "Please keep quiet," and went back to work. Twenty minutes later, the noise yet louder, he shouted out the window, "Shut up, you water buffalo!" The women were singing about going to a party. "If you want a party," he shouted, "there's a zoo a mile from here." The women were black. Within weeks, the administrative judicial inquiry officer (JIO) in charge of Eden's case, Robin Read, decided to prosecute him for violation of Penn's policy on racial harassment. He could accept a "settlement" -- an academic plea bargain -- or he could face a judicial hearing whose possible sanctions included suspension and expulsion.1
The JIO's finding that there was "reasonable cause" to believe that Eden had violated Penn's racial harassment policy for having shouted "Shut up, you water buffalo!" to late-night noisemakers under his window was outrageous in terms of normal human interactions at a university. Loud and raucous festivities had occurred beneath the windows of students since the Middle Ages. For centuries, would-be scholars, disturbed or awakened in the still hours, had shouted their various and picturesque disapprovals at the celebrants. "Water buffalo" would have been one of the mildest such epithets ever uttered.
(Note: http://www.mit.edu/activities/safe/cases/water-buffalo/water-buffalo.4 -- Penn Professor Dan Ben-Amos, an expert in black folklore provided the key to the question of the water buffalo reference. When he determined that the student had attended Yeshiva and knew Hebrew, he suggested that the student had quickly translated an extremely common Hebrew word, "behameh," which literally means "water oxen" but is used in everyday language to mean fool or thoughtless person. It has no racial connotations whatsoever. -- FDL )
The JIO's decision also was unconscionable given the history of the debates over speech codes at Penn. In 1987, over the strenuous objections of a handful of professors, Sheldon Hackney, President of the University of Pennsylvania, promulgated the University's first modern-era restrictions on speech, in the form of prohibitions on "any behavior, verbal or physical, that stigmatizes or victimizes individuals on the basis of race, ethnic or national origin...and that has the purpose or effect of interfering with an individual's academic or work performance; and/or creates an intimidating or offensive academic, living, or work environment."2 In September 1989, to explain the policy to incoming students, the administration gave specific examples of what would constitute the serious crime of "harassment": students who drew a poster to advertise a "South of the Border" party, showing a "lazy" Mexican taking a siesta against a wall; a faculty member who referred to blacks as "ex-slaves"; and students who, in protest of "Gay Jeans Day" (when undergraduates were asked to dress in jeans to show solidarity with gay and lesbian students), held a satiric sign proclaiming "Heterosexual Footwear Day."3
There were ironies in this presentation of "incidents of harassment." When Louis Farrakhan spoke at Penn 1988, over the protests of several Jewish organizations, Hackney issued a statement in which he conceded that Farrakhan's statements were "racist, and anti-Semitic, and amount to scapegoating," but concluded: "In an academic community, open expression is the most important value. We can't have free speech only some of the time, for only some people. Either we have it, or we don't. At Penn, we have it."4
Indeed, in the very month that his administration was prohibiting social criticism of Gay Jeans Day and posters of sleeping Mexicans, Hackney was campaigning, to great national applause, against Senator Jesse Helms's efforts to deny federal funding, by the National Endowment for the Arts, of works such as Andres Serrano's "Piss Christ," a crucifix immersed in the artist's urine. According to Hackney, it was impossible "to cleanse public discourse of offensive material" without producing "an Orwellian nightmare" or the horror of "self-censorship." "We are not," in Hackney's words, "Beijing" (an argument put to him earlier against his own speech code), but the "Land of Liberty," where efforts "to limit expression" deemed "offensive" violated the essence and spirit of "democracy" and made social "satire" impossible.5
As for me, I use the term "communism", and if I'm challenged on sins towards "political correctness", my answer is something like this:
"Yes, I'm a racist/sexist/homophobic Zionazi fascist earth-killing oppressor. What are you going to do about it, Pink Boy?"
-- FDL
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Becky
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| Beatrice1000 wrote: |
EXACTLY, and thanks for bringing this issue up. I’ve pulled a few things at random off the web in this regard.
(Add to “TO DO LIST”: remove PC grip on our culture -- take on after the Holidays.... )
This is one “rule” (or should I say “tool”) of the Far Left that John O’Neill and the Swifts tore to pieces head-on -- and for that alone, they had my love, admiration and support from the very start. “This man is unfit for command.” YEAH!! Revolutionary. The Left is STILL reeling from that adacious “insult” -- the insult of being scrutinized, of being questionned, of hearing an opinion that is not of their own making -- and worse yet, an opinion that dares to defy their position. |
You are one in a million...I never miss the energy and knowledge
you put into your posts...Lord, you'd terrify the left...you are
thorough in your research and blinders are off...you are water
to the witches of the left...you go, girl! You remind me of me
once upon a time... 
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firstsgtmike
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In the term "politically correct", "politically" is a modifier of the word "correct" and thus changes its totality.
Similar modifiers include, "Sometimes", "occassionally", "seldom", "rarely", etc.
By definition, if something is less than "correct", it is "incorrect".
My son was complaining about the low score he received on his spelling test. His point was that he only missed one letter in each word that was marked "incorrect".
I almost smacked him. I'm not raising a politician.
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Beatrice1000
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| Becky wrote: | | ..you are water to the witches of the left... |
..."water to the witches"  That is quite a visual! Wouldn't that be great? All one would need do is wander the land and a great howling would go up in your wake ... |
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Beatrice1000
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| firstsgtmike wrote: | In the term "politically correct", "politically" is a modifier of the word "correct" and thus changes its totality. Similar modifiers include, "Sometimes", "occasionally", "seldom", "rarely", etc. By definition, if something is less than "correct", it is "incorrect".
My son was complaining about the low score he received on his spelling test. His point was that he only missed one letter in each word that was marked "incorrect". I almost smacked him. I'm not raising a politician. |
THANK YOU Mike I've been so involved in dealing with the "imposed rules" and the "effects" of PC that I wasn't paying enough attention to the words themselves. But you nailed it beautifully.
(That note about your son is too funny -- ) |
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| Drawing a comparison, it's funny how closely Kerry and the Clintons were in their sharing of ideolgies back in the 60's and 70's and today. Of course everyone here knows of Clinton's infamous letter from Europe which presented his Draft Dodging as a respectable and praise-wothy accomplishment. Clinton's and Kerry's histories are so closely aligned, that is what had me worried that Kerry would get into the WH, just as Clinton did. I think the deciding factor was efforts like the SwiftVets who exposed more of Kerry than he had anticipated. In ending this post, I think we all can safely say that the Clinton years had a very similar negative affect on American Culture as well. That would be one of the only Clinton Legacies. |
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Can't help but wonder what Liddy Dole thinks.
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=5706
Red Cross condemns Iraq abuses
11/20/2004 4:40:00 PM GMT
ICRC is mandated under the Geneva conventions to protect civilians
The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has condemned what it described as utter contempt for humanity shown by all sides in the fighting in Iraq.
The ICRC criticised this week's killing of an unarmed wounded fighter in Fallujah by one of the Marines and the execution of hostage Margaret Hassan.
The organisation issued a critical statement from its headquarters in Iraq, saying that the conflict was having a devastating impact on the people in Iraq.
The statement notes there is "an absolute prohibition on the killing of persons who are not taking active part in the hostilities" and "the parties to the conflict must provide adequate medical care for the wounded - friend or foe".
It, moreover, called on all warring parties to respect the international humanitarian law and let aid workers carry out their duties in the country.
"For the parties to this conflict, complying with international humanitarian law is an obligation, not an option," said Pierre Krähenbühl, the ICRC's operations director.
"As hostilities continue in Fallujah and elsewhere, every day seems to bring news of yet another act of utter contempt for the most basic tenet of humanity," said Pierre Kraehenbuhl, the ICRC's director of operations.
"Like any other armed conflict, this one is subject to limits, and they must be respected at all times," he added.
ICRC is mandated under the Geneva conventions to protect civilians and those who are no longer able to fight.
Antonella Notari, ICRC spokeswoman, said the organisation wanted to make clear to the world "what we stand for".
One of the last aid agencies in Iraq, World Vision, has said it is leaving the country. |
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Beatrice1000
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| fortdixlover wrote: | | Everyone should study up on how "PC" has run amock at the universities. Sites such as http://www.thefire.org and http://www.noindoctrination.org are very revealing. By the way, the origins of the term "politically correct" meant "correct towards leftist views" and originated in academia, I believe. The Water Buffalo incident at the Univ. of PA in the early 1990's was memorable |
Looks like “FIRE” is doing really good work (interesting Board, contains ACLU members, too) -- the Water Buffalo story can almost make you weep...; “noindoctrination.org” is an organization of parents - YAY! Glad to see that. Thanks for the refs.; I didn’t realize people were taking this issue on .. I’ll be whining a little less ......
Origin of the term PC -- good question. Lots of stuff on that; here are a few items: (all emphasis, mine)
“Political Correctness” by Philip Atkinson
“Political Correctness (PC) is the communal tyranny that erupted in the 1980s.”..“The declared rational of this tyranny is to prevent people being offended...”..“PC is merely the resentment of spoilt children directed against their parent’s values.”... ** ARTICLE **
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The FreeDictionary.com** SOURCE **
--“Political correctness is the alteration of language said to redress real or alleged unjust discrimination or to avoid offense.”
--“Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis” (SWH) -- language influences thought (i.e., sexist language promotes sexist thought). (Sapir - linguist & anthropoligist; student: Whorf).
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Examples:
“The Dispossessed” - describes a fictional anarchist culture where use of the possessive case is taboo.
“The Languages of Pao” - science fiction novel depicting a social engineer who designs new languages for societies that wish to change their lot.
“Babel-17” - science fiction novel by Samuel R. Delany that supposes that the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is strongly true, depicting a fictional language, Babel-17, which causes anyone who learns it to become a traitor to their political
organisation.
“1984” - ‘Newspeak,’ fictional language designed to constrict thought to support the totalitarian regime of that book.
“Anthem,” Ayn Rand’s short novel where the word "I" is prohibited by a collectivist state.
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“Adams and Eve” by Lowell Ponte (7/11/01)
THE HERO IN GEORGE ORWELL’S NOVEL 1984, Winston Smith, served Big Brother as a re-writer of history. Whenever Big Brother re-defined what was Politically Correct, the history books would be revised accordingly to show that Big Brother had always been correct. Who controls the present controls the past, wrote Orwell, and who controls the past controls the future. Thank heaven our nation is not like that – or is it? As Slate’s David Greenberg observed on July 2, Thomas Jefferson’s reputation has declined in recent years, during a steady barrage of negative propaganda. ** ARTICLE **
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| Quote: | “How the Ford Foundation Created Multiculturalism” by Charles Sykes and K.L. Billingsley (1/9/04)
“..."People will not be quietly assimilated to multiculturalism by truth through dialogue." They will have to be bought off as well as brought along. ...These assistants—mentors of multiculturalism—must be women or people of color. .. "If we want to change the world, we have to change the students." ... How did the biggest foundation in the world get into the business of academic revolution? ... "The Foundation is a creature of capitalism," Henry Ford II said when he resigned in disgust from the foundation that bears his family name in 1977, adding that it was hard to discern any trace of capitalism "in anything the foundation does."...
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“....But with the carrot came a big stick: any group or institution that receives any money from the Foundation must adhere to Ford's affirmative action guidelines. ...” ... There is a phrase to describe the basis of the Ford Foundation's meddling in higher education: the arrogance of power. The architects of its assault on higher education are armchair radicals creating a revolution from above. There is no enthusiasm for the future they are plotting, no demand for the innovations they are putting into place.... ** ARTICLE ** |
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| Quote: | “The Anti-Americans Among Us” by David Horowitz (7/10/00)
“...America's heritage is under continuous assault by the determined legions of the political left. This attack has been mounted by an intellectual class based in the media and in America's politically correct educational institutions. ...
“...The singularity of the American identity lies in being forged through a conscious commitment to what until recently was still referred to as an "American way of life." The construct "American" was defined by the Founding, beginning with its Declaration that announced the creation of a new nation dedicated to the proposition that all human beings are created equal and that they are endowed with a natural right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. To be anti-American is not only to reject the heritage of this past, but a future that is "American" as well. ...
Until recently, the public schools in America functioned as a crucible of its citizenship. Immigrants who came to America seeking refuge & opportunity were educated in this social contract by their teachers. At the beginning of every school day, students would pledge allegiance to the flag of a multi-ethnic republic that was united into one indivisible nation by the commitment of all its citizens to a common national ideal. For these immigrants, public education was a process of assimilation into an American culture that had pledged itself to liberty and justice for all. But now this contract is under siege by radical multi-culturalists who condemn America and its heritage as oppressive, and valorize instead the culture of the "Other"–of peoples this nation is alleged to oppress. In this perverse--but now academically normal–view, the world is turned upside down. The nation conceived in liberty is reconceived as the tyrant to be overthrown.
“.....gone is the role of public education as an assimilator of immigrants and minorities into the American culture; gone, too, is the task of integrating them into the opportunities offered under the umbrella of "the American dream." It has been replaced by a subversive mission whose agenda is to warn them against the very society their parents had freely chosen. The students are addressed not as members of a free community freely choosing their futures, but as though they were dragged to these shores (and kept here) in chains..... ** ARTICLE ** |
| Quote: | | FDL wrote: As for me, I use the term "communism", and if I'm challenged on sins towards "political correctness", my answer is something like this: "Yes, I'm a racist/sexist/homophobic Zionazi fascist earth-killing oppressor. What are you going to do about it, Pink Boy?" |
I thought that I’ve had some good retorts in this regard, but after reading FDL’s, I realize what a novice I really am... “Zionazi fascist earth-killing oppressor” -- my goodness!!  |
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firstsgtmike
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Beatrice1000,
I've read it all, and more.
Regardless of its origin, I stand by my definition to define the term.
In the term "politically correct", "politically" is a modifier of the word "correct" and thus changes its totality. Similar modifiers include, "Sometimes", "occasionally", "seldom", "rarely", etc. By definition, if something is less than "correct", it is "incorrect".
Long after the references to the genesis of the term "politically correct" are forgotten, outmoded, and passe, the basic definition will remain standing tall.
Or was my son's spelling teacher wrong, when she declared that if it was not "correct" it was "incorrect"?
Mike Farrell
First Sergeant of Marines
Retired and Reincarnated in the Philippines
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fortdixlover
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| Mother wrote: | | The ICRC criticised this week's killing of an unarmed wounded fighter in Fallujah by one of the Marines and the execution of hostage Margaret Hassan. |
"Fighter" indeed. They forgot the word "terrorist."
This also STINKS TO H*LL of leftist MORAL EQUIVALENCY. Moral equivalency - even daring to compare the soldier's actions in combat to the cutting off of limbs and disemboweling (while still alive, I'm sure) and slitting the throat of a woman social worker - is worse than despicable.
This kind of moral equivalency in the press is a sign of anti-Judeochristian MSM degeneracy and decay and has a stench worse than that of a million rotting Saddam victim corpses.
Moral equivalence - Look for it - Be aware of it - Point it out to others - Attack it when you see it.
This might have been said already, but if not:
Someone should make the case that the strategies and tactics of the terrorists (suicide bombs, shooting from behind white flags, etc.) made the Marine's actions not only justifiable, but mandatory.
The terrorists, and only the terrorists, are to blame for this "incident" by making "more humane" warfare - i.e. with the taking of prisoners in such a situation - impossible. This terrorist playing possum was not the victim of the evil US military, but of his own barbaric and anarchic methods.
-- FDL
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Beatrice1000
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| fortdixlover wrote: | | Mother wrote: | | The ICRC criticised this week's killing of an unarmed wounded fighter in Fallujah by one of the Marines and the execution of hostage Margaret Hassan. |
"Fighter" indeed. They forgot the word "terrorist." This also STINKS TO H*LL of leftist MORAL EQUIVALENCY. Moral equivalency - even daring to compare the soldier's actions in combat to the cutting off of limbs and disemboweling (while still alive, I'm sure) and slitting the throat of a woman social worker - is worse than despicable. This kind of moral equivalency in the press is a sign of anti-Judeochristian MSM degeneracy and decay and has a stench worse than that of a million rotting Saddam victim corpses. |
One thing to take note of about the article referred to: it is from Al-Jazeera. I had the same reaction to that first sentence, outrage at the idiocy & the audacity, but then considered the source... Unfortunately, there are so many others that share that view.
In this article (that Al-Jazeera loves, I’m sure -- thank you ICRC), the ICRC condemns what it describes as “utter contempt for humanity shown by all sides in the fighting in Iraq.” .... “Like any other armed conflict, this one is subject to limits, & they must be respected at all times.” ICRC is mandated under the Geneva conventions to protect civilians and those who are no longer able to fight.
First, this isn’t like “any armed conflict.” Second, it appears that the ICRC has miraculous powers of intel in this matter by determining that the terrorist in question was “no longer able to fight” However, they can watch that video a thousand times and still never know the answer to that question. In that situation, they must give the benefit of the doubt to the Marine, unless of course, they feel the terrorists are getting a raw deal and need caring for and that we Satans have no rules of warfare.
I looked at the Geneva Conventions to get a feel for the ICRC “mandate.” Under “Grave Breaches” (partial definition): "GC 1 Art. 50. Grave breaches to which the preceding Article relates shall be those involving any of the following acts, if committed against persons or property protected by the Convention: wilful killing, torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments, wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health, and extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly.” ** GRAVE BREACH **
The key here is “justified by military necessity” -- and the problem is the ICRC and other organizations & reporters are defining “limits in armed conflict” always in favor of the other side and believe they have the right to make decisions for the U.S. soldier who is on the ground -- and they also have little respect for the fact that our military is capable of policing itself. In reading thru a few of the other “breaches” & rules of the Conventions, there is no reference with regard to dealing with injured terrorists that may be wearing suicide belts or holding grenades. In fact, there is no reference to “terrorists” that I saw in my scan. It appears to me that the ICRC is not considering AT ALL any facts regarding “military necessity” in our actions in conducting this war. It appears that they are jumping right over that exclusion item and going directly to “carried out unlawfully and wantonly.” If that is their perspective, and it appears to be, then anything we do that causes harm to anyone will be seen as without rationale on our part & will be condemned.
Remember how the ICRC jumped all over the situation at Abu Ghraib. Ted Kennedy kept referring to the ICRC reports as reason to fire Rumsfeld & to condemn the entire Bush admin. & the military chain of command -- taking the side of the ICRC rather than supporting our own military investigatory justice system. Here’s an article I found that I have heard nothing about that further indicates the problem with the attitude of the ICRC towards the U.S. and the problem of those that support the ICRC's blind condemnation of U.S. policies:
| Quote: | “A Rumsfeld Vindication” -- Abu Ghraib reports blow apart allegation of a "culture of permissiveness." (WSJ -8/26/04)
....The report offers invaluable perspective on the abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib and is devastating to those who've sought to pin blame on an alleged culture of lawlessness going all the way to the top of the Bush Administration. John Kerry must be even more disoriented by the Swift boat story than he appears if he thinks now's the time to call for Mr. Rumsfeld's resignation.
"... "It is preposterous that what these pictures show is we were prepared to use torture to get information," as Sen. Ted Kennedy & others have alleged. Rather, Mr. Schlesinger characterized the photographed Abu Ghraib abuses as "free-lance activities on the part of the night shift," echoing the testimony we've heard so far during the courts martial for the accused.
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..... The Schlesinger report also shines a well-deserved spotlight on the Int’l. Committee of the Red Cross. It notes that much of the ICRC criticism used to bludgeon the Pentagon stems..from a radical interpretation of the laws of war under which "interrogation operations would not be allowed," & which "would deprive the U.S. of an indispensable source of intelligence in the war on terrorism." In particular, the ICRC is rapped for insisting that the U.S. adhere to a controversial document known as Protocol 1, which the U.S. long ago explicitly rejected & which would grant terrorists & other non-uniformed combatants all the privileges of normal prisoners of war. The ICRC, the report says, promulgates this standard dishonestly "under the guise of customary international law."
The report suggests that ... "the ICRC, no less than the Defense Dept., needs to adapt itself to the new realities of conflict, which are far different from the Western European environment from which the ICRC's interpretation of the Geneva Conventions was drawn." We wonder if the journalists who've lived off Red Cross leaks will report this rebuke. ** ABU GHRAIB REPORT ** |
John Kerry was quick to condemn the prison situation -- always ready to show the U.S. wrong and to think the worst of our military:
| Quote: | "The Politics of Abu Ghraib" (5/12/04)
... "The day before Sen. Kerry stated publicly that the prison abuses at Abu Ghraib constituted 'a moment for America to try to deal with this without partisan politics,' his campaign engaged in a mass e-mail campaign attacking the president politically & initiating a petition drive in support of Kerry's call for Secretary Rumsfeld to resign-along with a 'donate now' appeal for campaign contributions," ... Gillespie suggested Kerry's biggest crime was calling for Rumsfeld to resign even before the defense secretary had testified before Congress to give his side of the story... ** ARTICLE ** |
Another group condemning the actions of the Marine in Falluja is “Human Rights Watch” (founded/affiliated with/supported by Soros? and who knows what the heck that man’s agenda is...) I don’t watch O’Reilly anymore, but the TV was on & I heard an exchange about the Falluja Marine situation, so I watched. Kenneth Roth, the Exec. Dir. of Human Rights Watch was on (11/17/04), and Bill, to his credit, strongly defended the Marine’s decision to shoot. ** Here's the Transcript **
In checking out Roth from HRW, I found, as with the ICRC, a willingness & “mandate” so it seems, to “condemn” and attack anything we do over there. Seems without the U.N.’s approval & unless there is a “mass slaughter” taking place, there is no credibility for action. Here’s Roth & his “World Report” indicating his bias against the U.S. decision to go to war:
| Quote: | World Report - Jan. 2004: "War In Iraq Not a Humanitarian Intervention" - by Kenneth Roth
.... We conclude that, despite the horrors of Saddam Hussein’s rule, the invasion of Iraq cannot be justified as a humanitarian intervention. .... Only mass slaughter might permit the deliberate taking of life involved in using military force for humanitarian purposes. .... Finally, we prefer endorsement of humanitarian intervention by the U.N. Security Council or other bodies with significant multilateral authority. ...
... We have no illusions about Saddam Hussein’s vicious inhumanity. ...we estimate that in the last 25 years of Ba`th Party rule the Iraqi gov’t. murdered or “disappeared” some quarter of a million Iraqis, if not more. .... We have circled the globe trying to convince some gov’t. - any gov’t. - to institute legal proceedings against Iraq for genocide. No one would. .... We are aware that summary executions occurred with disturbing frequency in Iraq up to the end of Saddam Hussein’s rule, as did torture & other brutality. Such atrocities should be met with public, diplomatic, and economic pressure, as well as prosecution. But before taking the substantial risk to life that is inherent in any war, mass slaughter should be taking place or imminent.... ** HRW WORLD REPORT ** |
Roth & HRW support the Int’l. Criminal Court which further shows the negative bias towards the U.S.:
| Quote: | “Int’l. Criminal Court” - Remarks of Kenneth Roth (9/9/02)
... And there is a need to fend off new challenges to the court, including from the U.S. gov’t. If the Bush administration has its way, it would rip up the Rome Treaty & substitute its own version - what we might call the Washington Treaty. .... By contrast, the Washington Treaty would permit impunity agreements. It would allow the surrender of an ICC suspect to his national authorities on the basis of a promise to investigate & prosecute that the ICC would be unable to review. .... No one should confuse the impunity agreements of the Washington Treaty with Article 98 of the Rome Treaty. It is a dangerous violation of the Rome Treaty to agree to surrender any ICC suspect to a government that does not recognize the critical oversight role of the ICC. .... ** SOURCE ** |
So, indeed, we should not be allowed to handle our criminal justice system without the “critical oversight role of the ICC.” We should not be able to handle military justice when necessitated without the control & oversight of the ICRC. Kerry is for the Int’l. Court -- his legacy against trusting America continues -- and it is obvious that that body would be just another step towards handing ourselves over to the internationalists who take objection to anything we do:
| Quote: | “Justice for a Despot” by Michael Radu (12/18/03)
Within hours of news of Saddam Hussein’s capture, the global human rights establishment (HRE) had started its campaign on his behalf, in the name of “international justice.” .... “No Political Show Trial for Saddam Hussein; International Expert Participation Key to Trial,” pontificates Human Rights Watch (www.hrw.org). .... we may be glad that Pres. Bush is calling for a public trial in Iraq. Because the Iraqis, & the U.S., have a great opportunity to demonstrate the vacuity of the much-trumpeted “evolving international law” on human rights. .... HRW’s likening of a trial that has not even begun yet – the Iraqis’ trial of this tyrant – to Stalin’s show trials of the 1930s is absurd.
** FrontPageMag ** |
| Quote: | “What’s Wrong With Human Rights?” by Jim Kalb (12/11/02)
....The fountainhead of the modern human rights movement is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), adopted by the UN General Assembly in 1948. .... ..startling feature of the document, for those accustomed to the Anglo-American legal tradition, is that it offers no protection to those who find themselves in opposition to the United Nations itself. As Article 29, par. 3 says: "These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations."
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The UDHR thus suggests the vision, familiar in left-wing thought, of a universal order of things to which opposition is forbidden because its goals (unlike those of lesser authorities) are uniquely and transparently good, however spattered with blood they may become. ... “Human rights” are now clearly held to include a universal right to a politically-correct welfare state....
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The PC aspects of post-UDHR human rights documents are yet more ambitious. A few examples out of many illustrate the point:
1. The Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women, ratified by 170 nations (not including the United States), explicitly calls for massive PC re-education of whole societies. It requires governments to undertake "all appropriate measures to modify the social & cultural patterns of conduct of men & women, with a view to achieving the elimination of prejudices & customary and all other practices which are based on ... stereotyped roles for men and women."
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3. Nor have the applications of the CRC been more reassuring. The U.N. committee charged with applying it has rebuked the United Kingdom for allowing parents to withdraw their children from school sex education programs....
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Clearly something has gone wrong, & the widely-shared impulse to prevent recurrence of horrors like the Holocaust has been hijacked in support of questionable enterprises. Nor is the problem a recent one. Our reading of the UDHR has shown that from the beginning the tendency has been to turn "human rights" from a few universally-acceptable principles that forbid gross evils like enslavement, torture and genocide into a comprehensive code for ordering world society. .... We should not accept or speak well of "international standards" simply because those active in the human rights movement have devised them and governing elites in other countries have signed on to them for whatever reason. ** ARTICLE ** |
“International Kangaroo Court” by John Perazzo (7/30/03)
The International Criminal Court, designed to prosecute the perpetrators of genocide, may soon be unleashed against the world’s leading defenders of human rights: the United States and Great Britain.... ** ARTICLE **
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HRW, the ICRC, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry, Al-Jazeera, our domestic Far Left -- all of one mind it seems - blame America. Fight the terrorists as a “police action” and no war is acceptable -- and actions of the U.S. must be controlled by int’l. bodies. They condemn and attack U.S. efforts at self-defense & support the world’s moral outrage at our slandered and misrepresented character, motivation & goals. In other words, they work as hard as possible to weaken & destroy this country -- take us off the offensive and have us sit and wait for “criminal” terrorist actions against us before we defend ourselves.
That same negative & accusatory attitude towards our foreign policy if applied to the situation with the Marine would mean: He was supposed to wait until he was shot before he was “allowed to defend himself." I’d like to see us make a statement to the world by giving that Marine a medal for saving his men -- for quick thinking, quick reaction, and for putting his men’s lives above that of the terrorist -- the fanatic thug fighting alongside people who saw off heads, rip bodies apart (& may have done so himself) and have no rules at all regarding humanity except to murder as much as possible.
Putting American lives and that of our Allies & innocent populations above that of the terrorists -- in all probable situations -- this is what the international bodies & their domestic U.S. supporters seem to have trouble accepting -- for their hidden political agendas? and/or perhaps because they actually see the motivations, actions and goals of the United States of America and the radical Islamist Jihadis as equal.
FDL, you are so right: “Moral equivalence - Look for it - Be aware of it - Point it out to others - Attack it when you see it." -- and have we ever got our work cut out for us in this regard -- at home with the Left, and definitely abroad. |
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