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GOOD BYE TO THE ACLU: by Hans Zeiger

When I was a guest on WorldNetDaily Radioactive the other day, I declared, "We must counter the ACLU." Mr. Farah quickly corrected my understatement: "We must destroy the ACLU!"

That, of course, is no easy task. Saving a nation from annihilation never is easy. But I think we have been lacking in strategy when it comes to destroying the ACLU and securing the future of our legal system and culture. We have supposed, as I understated, that we need only "counter the ACLU." All along, we've consistently lost to the ACLU because we've only intended to counter them.

Now, it is time to alter the course of our minds regarding the ACLU. It is time to consider that organization as complete a threat to the future of the United States as al-Qaida. While al-Qaida uses physical force to destroy American buildings, the ACLU uses legal force to tear down American institutions. Whether against the Boy Scouts, Christmas, life, marriage, or the Pledge of Allegiance, the ACLU is at war on ordered liberty.

Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and militant homosexual organizations have been among the odd clients of the ACLU. Despite a legal system replete with powerhouse lawyers from estate planning to the environment, divorce law to criminal law, the ACLU has effectively become the single most powerful force in the American judiciary. In the over 5,000 cases that it argues annually, the ACLU claims the mantle of patriotic freedom-loving Americans.

But Walter Lippmann once observed that the ACLU only stood for civil liberties when "it is a convenience for communists, anarchists, socialists, and labor organizers." Communist Party General Secretary Earl Browder called the early ACLU an important ally of communism.

Over the years, the ACLU has broken ties with open communism, but it has not ever abandoned what is essentially a communist agenda. Today, it operates as America's most ardent force for absolute social equality.

So the task that we are faced with at this crucial moment is the restoration of principled equality and ordered liberty. In fighting against the ACLU and its pet spirit of judicial despotism, we are the inheritors of the Founding Fathers and the generation that first hated the Dred Scott decision. And on our capacity to defeat the ACLU depends the future of the United States.

I believe that we must pursue a well-organized, well-funded, and well-informed strategy to defeat the ACLU. We must fight this battle primarily on the legal, educational, and media fronts.

First, this battle is legal. The host of conservative legal groups that have sprung up to take on the ACLU is vast. There's the American Center for Law and Justice, the American Civil Rights Union, Alliance Defense Fund, Rutherford Institute, Thomas More Law Center, United States Justice Foundation, Pacific Legal Foundation, Home School Legal Defense Fund, Mountain States Legal Foundation, Landmark Legal Foundation, and so on. These groups are doing good work, but they must join forces.

There is a very practical argument for union that was at the root of both the American founding and the Union cause of the Civil War – there is strength in union. A united conservative legal front would enable a central funding mechanism, a recognizable name that a widespread number of Americans could join under and support, and a clearinghouse for the best strategies and legal talents possible.

Second, institutions of education must work to restore a constitutional legal culture. Christian and conservative colleges must open and sustain law schools with a focus on constitutional law. Though these colleges are certainly a small minority, they are growing at a faster rate than any other kind of higher education institution. Now is the time to build anti-ACLU law schools. Furthermore, conservative legal scholars must find employment in major law schools. They must seek to reverse the spirit of judicial activism that prevails within the legal elite.

Finally, we must tap the power of new media to defeat the designs of the ACLU. The combined force of talk radio, the Internet, conservative print publications, and a revolutionized television media consisting of FOX News and Christian programming must be mobilized against the ACLU. Ideas have consequences, said Richard Weaver. We would be fools to underestimate the power of the media for communicating ideas, and for ultimately destroying the ACLU. Public opinion must be swayed against the ACLU so that its demise may be imminent.

This must be our strategy: to organize legally, to educate, and to persuade. It is time to stop the ACLU and to renew the principles of law and order.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41871

God bless America.


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[RogerRabbit]

Some of you will remember this when Kruschev beat his shoe (can be seen in photo) on the table and declared 'We will bury you' (without firing a shot) and we all know now that he would do it with the help of the ACLU,

ACLU came into existance (1920) just a few years after the Russian Revolution (1917), that folded and with any luck so will the ACLU - they are indeed a threat to this great nation
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[azTrish]

The last time someone was bringing up these idiots they again were hasseling the boy scouts out of schools and was it them that demanded they no longer were allowed to be any military association..

I detest the ACLU, they are not looking out for my or my families interests or liberties rather they are taking away our liberties. They gotta go.. like yesterday.

Does anyone have a good list of their major donors to let THEM know the average Jane and Joe feel offended by their self serving actions and harrassment.

Trish

[tony54]

I don't think they have any donors, they make their money by suing small cities with limited resources, and then when the city caves in to them so as not to spend thousands in Federal Court, the city by law has to pay the attorney fees for the ACLU.
So not only are they taking away more of our rights, but these ******* attorneys make a dam goo living doing it.


I call this organization the:
Anti Christ Lawyers Union

[azTrish]

hmm non-profit org.. federal funding perhaps??? I bet they have a nice list of people who contribute..

lookie here
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more I can look into after picking up my Belle from Kindergarten Prep heeh A preppie already <g>

[tony54]

AZ thanks for the info, I thought they made money with big settlemnt from small cities, but now I know the rest of the story.

[homesteader]

One of the most encouraging things about the article starting this thread is that the author is a sophmore at Hillsdale College. He is a classmate of my daughter. The conservative youth movement is energized, articulate, educated and in no mood to "fiddle while the country burns". Hans has been quoted by Rush before and is but one of a surging number of sharp young people who are entering the fray armed with a no nonsense grasp of our history, a world view grounded in our Judeo-Christian heritage and a fire in their bellies to slay dragons like the ACLU.

BTW, one of the great ironies about Hillsdale's refusal to accept any government money (nor can any of the students), is that they can not have ROTC on campus. Hillsdale is therefore turning out conservative warriors for the academic, legal, political and all other nonmilitary fields of battle.

[Fort Campbell]

The ACLU is really going after the Boy Scouts. I heard a discussion about the Popcorn sale that the Boy Scouts are doing on the Glenn Beck Show today on talk radio. If you go to this WebSite you can help the Boy Scouts by purchasing thier Popcorn online. These would make great stocking stuffers. However, we need the Code for at least one Scout in order to purchase any. Apparently the Scout gets credit. I fany of you have Scouts in your family please post their Code so we can support them by buying this popcorn.

http://www.orderpopcorn.com/

[JannDallas]

I have already bought two big cans of their popcorn, chocolate covered and caramal. It's good. Bought it from a Boy Scout selling door to door.

[tony54]

According to Bill O'Reilly, Soros just contributed $4 million to the ACLU.
What does he have in common with the ACLU? I wonder.
They are both intent on bringing this country down!
With him being a naturalized foreigner, I think every law enforcement agency FBI, CIA, Secret Sevrice should do a thorough investigation on his motives and his political connections.
BEFORE HE SUCCEEDS!

O'REilly has been hammering the ACLU lately,
last night he even called them "our enemy".
He is 100% right for a change!
He's also been hammering on Kofi every night.

[God and Country]

MERRY CHRISTMAS, MERRY CHRISTMAS, MERRY CHRISTMAS: bring on the ACLU.

"A Christmas Care"

I see the White House lights are bright
With Christmas in the air.
I see the stores with Santa Claus
With tinsel, trees, and flare.

I think of times when I was young
Of hope and love and prayer.
I think of songs of joyous things
It fills my eyes with tears.

I cry because those times are gone
And no one seems to care.
I cry because my daughters may not
Ever know that flare.

Their pre-school walls are drab and dull
No Christmas trees are there.
No decorations for this season
All the school is bare.

Their teachers cannot even teach them
Of Christmas they can't share.
No Santa coming down the chimney
Or Rudolph in the air.

I cry because we're losing Christmas
I cry because I care.
I cry because I see our future
And Christmas is not there.

And so I plead with all who'll listen
It simply isn't fair.
I pray the world will give back Christmas
I pray because I care.

Erica Yarbrough, Dec. 10, 2004

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year


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[JimRobson]

he he he I'm so disillusioned!!!


A.C.L.U.'s Search for Data on Donors Stirs Privacy Fears
The American Civil Liberties Union is using sophisticated technology to collect a wide variety of information about its members and donors in a fund-raising effort that has ignited a bitter debate over its leaders' commitment to privacy rights.

Some board members say the extensive data collection makes a mockery of the organization's frequent criticism of banks, corporations and government agencies for their practice of accumulating data on people for marketing and other purposes.

Daniel S. Lowman, vice president for analytical services at Grenzebach Glier & Associates, the data firm hired by the A.C.L.U., said the software the organization is using, Prospect Explorer, combs a broad range of publicly available data to compile a file with information like an individual's wealth, holdings in public corporations, other assets and philanthropic interests.

The issue has attracted the attention of the New York attorney general, who is looking into whether the group violated its promises to protect the privacy of its donors and members.

"It is part of the A.C.L.U.'s mandate, part of its mission, to protect consumer privacy," said Wendy Kaminer, a writer and A.C.L.U. board member. "It goes against A.C.L.U. values to engage in data-mining on people without informing them. It's not illegal, but it is a violation of our values. It is hypocrisy."

The organization has been shaken by infighting since May, when the board learned that Anthony D. Romero, its executive director, had registered the A.C.L.U. for a federal charity drive that required it to certify that it would not knowingly employ people whose names were on government terrorism watch lists.

A day after The New York Times disclosed its participation in late July, the organization withdrew from the charity drive and has since filed a lawsuit with other charities to contest the watch list requirement.

The group's new data collection practices were implemented without the board's approval or knowledge, and were in violation of the A.C.L.U.'s privacy policy at the time, said Michael Meyers, vice president of the organization and a frequent and strident internal critic. Mr. Meyers said he learned about the new research by accident Nov. 7 in a meeting of the committee that is organizing the group's Biennial Conference in July.

He objected to the practices, and the next day, the privacy policy on the group's Web site was changed. "They took out all the language that would show that they were violating their own policy," he said. "In doing so, they sanctified their procedure while still keeping it secret."

Attorney General Eliot Spitzer of New York appears to be asking the same questions. In a Dec. 3 letter, Mr. Spitzer's office informed the A.C.L.U. that it was conducting an inquiry into whether the group had violated its promises to protect the privacy of donors and members.

Emily Whitfield, a spokeswoman for the A.C.L.U., said the organization was confident that its efforts to protect donors' and members' privacy would withstand any scrutiny. "The A.C.L.U. certainly feels that data privacy is an extremely important issue, and we will of course work closely with the state attorney general's office to answer any and all questions they may have," she said.

Robert B. Remar, a member of the board and its smaller executive committee, said he did not think data collection practices had changed markedly. He recalled that the budget included more money to cultivate donors but said he did not know what specifically was being done.

Mr. Remar said he did not know until this week that the organization was using an outside company to collect data or that collection had expanded from major donors to those who contribute as little as $20. "Honestly, I don't know the details of how they do it because that's not something a board member would be involved in," he said.

The process is no different than using Google for research, he said, emphasizing that Grenzebach has a contractual obligation to keep information private.

The information dispute is just the latest to engulf Mr. Romero. When the organization pulled out of the federal charity drive, it rejected about $500,000 in expected donations. Mr. Romero said that when he signed the enrollment certification, he did not think the A.C.L.U. would have to run potential employees' names through the watch lists to meet requirements.

The board's executive committee subsequently learned that Mr. Romero had advised the Ford Foundation, his former employer, to follow the nation's main antiterrorism law, known as the Patriot Act, in composing language for its grant agreements, helping to ensure that none of its money inadvertently underwrites terrorism or other unacceptable activities. The A.C.L.U., which has vigorously contended that the act threatens civil liberties, had accepted $68,000 from Ford under the new terms by then.

The board voted in October to return the money and reject further grants from Ford and the Rockefeller Foundation, which uses similar language in its grant agreements.

In 2003, Mr. Romero waited several months to inform the board that he had signed an agreement with Mr. Spitzer to settle a complaint related to the security of the A.C.L.U.'s Web site. The settlement, signed in December 2002, required the agreement to be distributed to the board within 30 days, and Mr. Romero did not hand it out until June 2003.

He told board members that he had not carefully read the agreement and that he did not believe it required him to distribute it, according to a chronology compiled by Ms. Kaminer.

Many nonprofit organizations collect information about their donors to help their fund-raising, using technology to figure out giving patterns, net worth and other details that assist with more targeted pitches.

Because of its commitment to privacy rights, however, the A.C.L.U. has avoided the most modern techniques, according to minutes of its executive committee from three years ago. "What we did then wasn't very sophisticated because of our stance on privacy rights," said Ira Glasser, Mr. Romero's predecessor.

Mr. Glasser, who resigned in 2001, said the group had collected basic data on major donors and conducted a ZIP code analysis of its membership for an endowment campaign while he was there. He said it had done research on Lexis/Nexis and may have looked at S.E.C. filings.

Mr. Meyers said he learned on Nov. 7 that the A.C.L.U.'s data collection practices went far beyond previous efforts. "If I give the A.C.L.U. $20, I have not given them permission to investigate my partners, who I'm married to, what they do, what my real estate holdings are, what my wealth is, and who else I give my money to," he said.

On Nov. 8, the privacy statement on the A.C.L.U. Web site was replaced with an "Online Privacy Policy." Until that time, the group had pledged to gather personal information only with the permission of members and donors. It also said it would not sell or transfer information to a third party or use it for marketing.

Those explicit guarantees were eliminated from the Web site after Mr. Meyers raised his concerns about the new data-mining program at the Nov. 7 meeting.

After learning of Mr. Spitzer's inquiry, the executive committee of the board took up the data-mining issue on Dec. 14. Board members are allowed to listen in on any executive committee meeting, and Mr. Meyers asked the panel to participate in its conference call.

The first item on the agenda was whether he could be on the line. The executive committee voted 9 to 1 to bar him and had a staff member inform him that the meeting was of the board of the A.C.L.U. Foundation, not the group's executive committee, and thus he was excluded.

Mr. Remar, who has been a board member for 18 years, said board members had been asked to leave executive committee meetings during personnel discussions, but Mr. Meyers said it was a first.

Mr. Remar said the data collection efforts were a function of the foundation, and thus the executive committee had met as the foundation board.

But Mr. Romero convened a meeting of the executive committee, and Mr. Spitzer's letter was addressed to the A.C.L.U., with no mention of the foundation.

Mr. Meyers said his exclusion raises a profound issue for other board members. "Their rationale for excluding me implicitly means that they can't share anything with the board, but the board as a whole has fiduciary responsibilities," he said. "How can board members do their duty if information is withheld from them?"
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[BuffaloJack]

An I always thought ACLU stood for "ALL COMMUNIST LAWYERS UNION". I guess I was right. They have a communist agenda to make the USA into a soviet type state. The even use our money to do it. 15 or so years back, they managed to get legislation through so that whenever they sue for something the government picks up all attorneys fees no matter what the outcome. It is to their benefit to keep litigation perpetual.

[noc]

What about going after groups that are providing big contributions to the ACLU like the Ford Foundation. I would be that they get most of their money from big foundation groups.

Going after their money may be a very effective way to grind them down.

We also need to very publically out politicians that support them or are members.

[baldeagle]

Michael Dukakis bragged about being a member. Also his campaign manager (Susan Estrich) was a member.

"I'm a card-carrying member of the American Civil Liberties Union."
- Michael Dukakis
New York Magazine
August 17, 1987


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How closely connected to the ACLU is Michael Dukakis?

* Dukakis' campaign manager, Susan Estrich, is a member of the ACLU's National Board. A long-time ACLU supporter, Estrich is the author of a chapter in the book Our Endangered Rights, an ACLU publication. Her essay, entitled "Sexual Justice" (written with Virginia Kerr), promotes "same sex" marriages and defends the rights of homosexual couples to gain custody of children.

* Estrich, the first woman to ever run a major presidential candidacy, served as an advisor to presidential candidates Ted Kennedy and Walter Mondale. According to Newsweek (June 27, 1988), Estrich's views are "more liberal than Dukakis." Her former colleagues describe her as a "redistributionist" who wants to "take from the haves and give to the have nots."

* Newsweek asked the question, "What would happen to Estrich if Dukakis is elected? She would probably be a prime candidate for attorney general or domestic policy advisor."

http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner/X0159_Dukakis_ACLU_member.html
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