SwiftVets.com

[Navy wife]

Go on the Washington Times Newspaper's web site and there you will see one of the Swifties has been nominated for Noble of the Year! Everyone can vote for three and I urge you to consider voting for an honest man! Admiral Schachte was the Swiftboat veteran who was villified by the media when he said that he had been in command of the skimmer with John Kerry for the First Purple Heart incident and turned him down. They said he was lying and had not been in the skimmer with Kerry.

Here's the announcement:

"It's time for the annual Nobles and Knaves Contest [at the Washington Times Newspaper], where you the reader can vote on who deserves the Editorial Board's highest and lowest acclaim. To vote, e-mail noble@washingtontimes.com, with "Nobles Contest" in the subject line, or fax 202-715-0037. Entrees must be received by Dec. 30. The winners will be announced on Jan. 1. As usual, all entries are subject to review by the benevolent Editorial Board. We remind readers that votes sent en masse with the intention of unfairly weighting contestants will be thrown out."


"Retired Rear Adm. William L. Schacte Jr., for telling the truth about John Kerry's service in Vietnam. "


http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20041222-084334-6879r.htm

[kate]

Navy Wife, thanks for the link
one gets to vote for (3) Nobles and (3) Knaves from a long list in each category


Here's some of the Knaves.....choices, choices
John Kerry, for dishonoring the service of the National Guard

Sen. Edward Kennedy, for comparing the abuse at Abu Ghraib to Saddam's torture chambers

George Soros, for equating our fighting men and women with the September 11 hijackers
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[Navy wife]

Kate, I had a terrible time deciding between all the knaves--there were so many choices. I finally settled on the KERRY Campaign for filing suit against the Swift Boat vets!! Plus his dear friend, Sen. Kennedy--then it was awfully hard to choose the third candidate!!

I was so happy to see a Swiftboat vet nominated and was surprised that John O'Neill wasn't also one of the Nobles. It was disappointing to see that John O'Neill did not make Texan 2004. He was my choice, for sure!!!

[rbshirley]

[Navy wife]

rbshirley wrote:

[kate]

and the votes are in
http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20041231-112352-7129r.htm

NOBLE
Top nobles, followed by the votes they received.
• Judge Raad Juhi: 17
• Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi: 18
• The Iraqi citizens of Thul Fiqar al Battar: 22
• Sgt. Maj. James Jordan: 27
• Karl Rove: 30
• The Screaming Eagles of the 101st Airborne Division: 72
• The bloggers: 75
• Ret. Rear Adm. William Schachte Jr.: 86
• Pat Tillman: 102
With a total of 114 votes, the Noble of the Year is Mel Gibson

KNAVE
Top knaves, followed by the votes they received:
• Howard Dean: 26
• The Kerry campaign: 33
• Rep. Jim McDermott: 36
• Sen. Harry Reid: 40
• U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan: 47
• Former President Jimmy Carter: 53
• Sen. John Kerry: 73
• The mainstream media: 81
• Sen. Ted Kennedy: 84
With a total of 86 votes, George Soros is the Knave of the Year.


Adm.Schachte finished near the top of the pack
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[Navy wife]

Kate has listed the winners of both the Knave and Noble categories, but I thought the explanation of how the winners were picked was just as interesting to all of us since it dealt with the SwiftBoats!

First is the original article which named Admiral Schachte as their Noble of the Week followed by the article in today's Washington Times Newspaper. Isn't it interesting that on the same day that they honored a Swiftie, they named Kerry's campaign the Knave for filing a complaint with the FEC against the SwiftBoats!

www.washingtontimes.com

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Nobles and knaves
Published August 28, 2004

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Nobles: Retired Rear Adm. William L. Schachte Jr., for sticking to his guns in the midst of a political firestorm.
There is perhaps no greater display of courage than confronting the powerful in their quest for power. Adm. Schachte claims to be the mysterious "fourth member" of a skimmer that was on night patrol on Dec. 2, 1968, with then-Lt. John Kerry when the latter received the injury that earned him his first Purple Heart. For alleging that Mr. Kerry didn't deserve his Purple Heart, Adm. Schachte has been vilified by Kerry attack dogs recently in a smear campaign designed to silence those speaking out.
Reluctant to talk to members of the media, the retired admiral has given only two interviews since "Unfit for Command," the book that places Adm. Schachte on Mr. Kerry's skimmer, came out two weeks ago. One of them was with columnist Bob Novak this week. In the interview, Adm. Schachte reiterates his version of events that night, while providing sound military reasons for his presence on board, and anecdotal evidence from Mr. Kerry himself for his presence.
As Mr. Novak reports, it wasn't until Kerry lawyer Lanny Davis personally attacked Adm. Schachte's credibility that he decided to defend his honor. No doubt the Kerry campaign will continue to question that honor in the weeks ahead.
For courage above and beyond, Adm. Schachte is the Noble of the week.

Knaves: The Kerry campaign, for attempting to silence the First Amendment rights of fellow Americans for pure political power.
On Aug. 19, John Kerry had a defiant answer to his critics -- well, actually, to President Bush -- concerning his Vietnam record: "If [Mr. Bush] wants to have a debate about our service in Vietnam, here is my answer: Bring it on." Problem is, Mr. Bush has never questioned Mr. Kerry's Vietnam War record. But those who have, specifically the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a 527 organization, responded to Mr. Kerry by bringing it on.
It didn't take very long for Mr. Kerry, probably concerned about his declining support among veterans, to ask the Federal Election Commission to take it off. On Aug. 20, the Kerry campaign filed a complaint with the FEC arguing that the Swift veterans' ads and their book, "Unfit for Command," violate campaign-finance laws and should be taken off the air and out of circulation. Meanwhile, both Mr. Kerry and his running mate, John Edwards, have canvassed the country this week putting the blame of 264 Vietnam veterans and their completely legal right to free speech at the feet of Mr. Bush. So, in just under one week, the man who would be has asked the sitting president and a federal agency to stifle the free speech of Americans.
For playing politics with Americans' most cherished right, Mr. Kerry and his campaign are the Knaves of the week.

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The Washington Times
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Noble and Knave of the Year
Published January 1, 2005

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In its third year, the Noble and Knaves Contest has become something of a tradition here on the editorial page. If not quite as highly regarded as Time Magazine's Person of the Year, our contest is absolutely more democratic, since you the readers decide. And you didn't make it easy for us: This year's vote tally was the closest in the contest's history. With the frontrunners changing every day, we recalled John Kerry's concession-speech promise to make every vote count. Fortified by his words, we labored on. And just as the ball was about to drop in Times Square, the winners finally emerged.

For Knave of the Year, the contest proved tightest. Perhaps this was because in an election year any number of silly things can be said, and many are. Knave of the week twice in 2004, former President Jimmy Carter earned numerous nominations for using a child's funeral to bash the Iraq war, as well as calling the war that won us our independence "unnecessary." Also earning top marks was another two-time Knave of the week, Mr. Kerry. Not only did Mr. Kerry slap every National Guardsmen in the face by comparing them to draft dodgers last February, but he also suggested during the campaign that President Bush might reinstate the draft if re-elected. Mr. Kerry's campaign team revealed a similar shamelessness when it tried to silence the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth by filing a complaint with the Federal Election Commission. U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan was a crowd favorite, as was also-ran Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean. A lot of readers were quite upset at Rep. Jim McDermott, Washington Democrat, for leaving out "under God" while he led the House in the Pledge of Allegiance. But more readers were steamed at Sen. Harry Reid for some uncouth comments about a sitting federal judge on the Senate floor -- a Knave-of-the-week moment he recently surpassed by calling Justice Clarence Thomas an "embarrassment." For consciously ignoring the swift boat veterans' ads, the mainstream media was at varying times a frontrunner. Closing out the top, however, was Sen. Ted Kennedy, who lost by just two votes. Readers remembered with apparent opprobrium how Mr. Kennedy equated the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal to Saddam Hussein's torture chambers; and were equally upset when he asked for his own commemorative library at the University of Virginia.
Here are your top knaves, followed by the votes they received:
• Howard Dean: 26
• The Kerry campaign: 33
• Rep. Jim McDermott: 36
• Sen. Harry Reid: 40
• U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan: 47
• Former President Jimmy Carter: 53
• Sen. John Kerry: 73
• The mainstream media: 81
• Sen. Ted Kennedy: 84
As 2004 was an election year, numerous clowns demanded the spotlight. No one, perhaps not even 2003's Knave Michael Moore, spewed as much hatred and foolishness as the billionaire who financed them all. The liberal cavalier, who fancies himself at times a high-browed scholar and America's moral voice, bankrolled every left-wing outfit from MoveOn.org to America Coming Together. But his most egregious offense came when he equated some shameful soldiers at the Abu Ghraib prison with the September 11 hijackers, and their prisoners -- lest we forget, many of them terrorists -- with the victims in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.
With a total of 86 votes, George Soros is the Knave of the Year.

Before listing the top nobles of 2004, several readers wanted to know why certain individuals (Mr. Bush) and groups (the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth) were not included. The easy answer is because neither Mr. Bush nor the swift boat vets were ever Nobles of the week. Both earned numerous full-length editorials (one even received our endorsement) that applauded (and at times criticized) their actions.
While 2004's top nobles are by no means marginal figures, the Saturday feature is intended as a space to honor those individuals whose accomplishments might otherwise go unheralded. A classic example of the kind of accomplishment the editorial board appreciates was found in Judge Raad Juhi, the Iraqi who has questioned Saddam and many of his former cronies in the Ba'ath regime. So dangerous was his job (he has survived numerous assassination attempts) that Western media outlets honored Judge Juhi's request for anonymity, until he consented to be interviewed by the Wall Street Journal. We are happy to see his name among the top ten. The Iraqi citizens of Thul Fiqar al Battar, who rose up against renegade cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, also received scant attention by media outlets, but are here honored by our readers.
Many of the top nobles seemed to have one common characteristic: They inspire others to do great deeds. There was Sgt.-Maj. James Jordan choosing to go with his troops to Iraq rather than retire; Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi standing firm while terrorists held his citizens hostage; the Screaming Eagles of the 101st Airborne Division for a year-long tour in Iraq; and Pat Tillman, the former Arizona Cardinal who gave up fame and fortune to serve in Afghanistan. He was killed in action in April.
Others arose from the depths of an election year. There was senior White House political adviser Karl Rove, who, by designing Mr. Bush's successful campaign, showed that he understands America better than anyone on the left; Rear Admiral William Schachte Jr., for uncompromising resolve in the face of Mr. Kerry's attack dogs; and of course the bloggers, the scourge of the mainstream media, for their dedication to honest reporting.
Here are your top nobles, followed by the votes they received.
• Judge Raad Juhi: 17
• Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi: 18
• The Iraqi citizens of Thul Fiqar al Battar: 22
• Sgt. Maj. James Jordan: 27
• Karl Rove: 30
• The Screaming Eagles of the 101st Airborne Division: 72
• The bloggers: 75
• Ret. Rear Adm. William Schachte Jr.: 86
• Pat Tillman: 102
But in the end, of all people, it was a celebrity, or in this case, an artist, who readers most admired. There are few works of art that capture a moment as perfectly as Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ." While the rest of Hollywood campaigned, Mr. Gibson created, and with his own $25 million produced a film that awed the world. For his sacrifice, he was attacked as an anti-Semite, yet he refused to answer the cheap shots leveled at his father, Hutton.
With a total of 114 votes, the Noble of the Year is Mel Gibson.
We would like to thank our readers who participated in the contest as well as wish all our readers a Happy New Year.

[Stevie]

great! I voted for the Admiral! and JOrdan and the 3 month old puppy!

the reason they were nominated had a great deal to do with my voting...

as in the puppy..... think about a 3 month old puppy helping/saving those kids.... that's just a baby ! hard to imagine it even knew the kids needed help! what a pup! my dog is 6 and I don't think she'd have a clue!
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Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged.

[coldwarvet]

Admiral Schachte, deserves the Noble award for subjecting himself to the insults of the MSM in his effort to restore the stolen honor of our Vietnam era Veterans by exposing the Kerry lies that gave him an undeserved platform where he wrongfully depicted the Vietnam era Veterans as war criminals.

On THURSDAY, APRIL 22, 1971 http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=Testimony

John Kerry made claims about our Vietnam era Veterans service. At that time this same committee had no time to hear from the other side. No one from ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS or the print media ever conducted an investigation to determine if the charges could be supported with fact. No they just sucked it up like CBS did with the fabricated story about President Bush’s National Guard service. Turned around and force fed it to the American public. Then Hollywood for the next 30 years continued to perpetuate the lie with one movie after the next. Today we are fortunate enough to have bloggers who will do research and find documents of record and then we have AM radio and cable TV networks that will take the information debunked by bloggers and communicate the truth to the American people.

I plead with you The Washington Times to have the kind of courage that the Washington Post demonstrated when it investigated Watergate? The Washington Times could demonstrate a similar kind of courage by putting aside all political agendas and investigate the Kerry claims of our Vietnam Veterans committing war crimes. Yes war crimes do exist in every war and The Washington Times will probably find incidents of wrong doing. However the wide spread occurrences that Kerry claims in his testimony is what I take issue with. In any event the Kerry accusations should have been explored in 1971. No one in the MSM do date has had the courage to challenge the Kerry’s claims of 1971. So please show some courage now by doing your duty and investigate the claims of Kerry in 2005.

CWV
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[I B Squidly]

coldwarvet,

Rather's comment, "False but true" about the TANG documents has caused me to rethink the 'courage' of WaPo in Watergate. Woodwards continuing ability to document the unattributable, and converse with dead and comatose further alters reflexion. I'm left to believe 'DeepThroat' was a fabrication. Dirt on JFK and LBJ was as ready to hand as Nixon but Dick was a Republican and as they say, Fair Game.

[Tom Poole]

[coldwarvet]

I was only 15 at the time of Watergate and was easily influenced by the educrats assigned to me at the time. So retrospectively I can see how my thinking could be incorrect on this issue. I would not find it at all surprising if much of what was discovered by the MSM during Watergate was another Ratherization of the facts without the benefit of the new media to get to the truth.

CWV
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Defender of the honor of those in harms way keeping us out of harms way.

"Peace is our Profession"
Strategic Air Command - Motto

USAF 75-79 Security Police

[coldwarvet]