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[kate]

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=12286
2004-12-29
Ramsey Clark joins Saddam defence team

Former US attorney general says his main concern is protecting rights of former Iraqi leader.

AMMAN - Former US attorney general and left-wing activist Ramsey Clark is to join the defence team of Saddam Hussein, a spokesman for the toppled Iraqi president's lawyers said on Wednesday.

Clark, who held the office of attorney general under US president Lyndon B. Johnson, "is one of the members of the defence team of president Saddam Hussein," Ziad Khassawneh said. "This honours and inspires us."

The former top US justice official, who arrived Tuesday in Jordan where the defence team is based, has become known as a left-wing lawyer and firm critic of US foreign policy since leaving office.

He visited Saddam Hussein in Baghdad in February 2003 just before the US-lead invasion and has also been involved with the defence of former Yugoslav leader Solbodan Milosevic, on trial for war crimes at a UN court in the Hague.

Clark told reporters in the Jordanian capital that his principle concern was protecting the rights of Saddam, who only saw a lawyer for the first time this month, a year after his capture.

"In international law, anyone accused of crime has the right to be tried by a confident, independent and impartial court, and there can be no fair trail without those qualities," said Clark.

"The special court in Iraq was created by the Iraqi governing council, which is nothing more than a creation of the US military occupation and has no authority in law as a criminal court," he said.

The Iraq Special Tribunal was established by the US-led coalition last December to try members of the former regime of Saddam.

Clark also said the United States itself must be tried for the November assault on Fallujah, destruction of houses, torture in prisons and its role in the deaths of thousands of Iraqis in the war.


copping a comment from a freeper:
"I think the Iraqi's should institute a policy that, if you are one of Saddam's lawyers, and he loses in the trial, you will be executed along with him."
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[Orolonn]

[wwIIvetsdaughter]

Ramsey Clark was also set to become Judas Iscariot's attorney, but pulled out ONLY because his client had only 40 pieces of silver to his name.

[Arty Guy]

No one should be surprised at this. It would be surprising if Ramsay Clark joined the prosecutorial team instead. Now that would be newsworthy.

[AMOS]

Ya gotta wonder what he (and a buncha others) hit his head on.

[GM Strong]

Ramsey Clark is a Leftist Socialist Radical who never met a Dictator he did not like. He also hates this country. To Hades with him.
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A brief history of the Un-American Traitor Ramsey Clark..

New York Times Abstracts, January 29, 1970, Thursday

ABSTRACT:
Judge Hoffman bars ex-Atty Gen R Clark from testifying as defense witness at trial of Chicago 7 on charges of conspiring to incite to riot during '68 Dem Natl Conv; after bitter dispute, Hoffman upholds Govt objections, ruling that Clark can make 'no relevant or material contribution' to case; Clark, as Atty Gen at time of conv, played major role in framing security measures; Kunstler scores ruling as setting 'horrendous precedent'; says he can recall no Amer criminal case when witness willing to testify for defense was barred by judge; several prominent law profs say they regard Hoffman's ruling as extremely unusual; Hoffman made ruling after ordering Kunstler to question Clark out of presence of jury; Kunstler asks 38 questions; Govt objects to 14 on grounds answers would violate Fed regulations against disclosure of Justice Dept files and 'other security matters'; Hoffman upholds every objection; some of Clark's testimony detailed

New York Times Abstracts, June 5, 1970

ABSTRACT:
Com to Save Our Const opens hq, NYC, to press for Charter amendment to test legality of Vietnam war; com hon chmn ex-Atty Gen Ramsey Clark says amendment would require City Corp Counsel to defend all NYC residents who refuse to serve in a war not authorized by Cong

New York Times Abstracts, April 19, 1971

ABSTRACT:
1st contingents of expected total of 1,500 Vietnam veterans begin arriving, Washington, DC, in preparation for wk-long series of antiwar protests named Operation Dewey Canyon Three; Vietnam Veterans Against the War to conduct demonstrations at Govt agencies; Ramsey Clark, atty for group, to appeal injunction against group using Fed grounds as sleeping area; group organizer John F Kerry comments; group denied permit to hold memorial service at Tomb of Unknown Soldier to hon Amer and Indochinese war dead; gets Govt permit to use Potomac Pk as assembly site for week-long series of antiwar protests

New York Times Abstracts, April 21, 1971

ABSTRACT:
Chief Justice Burger reinstates Fed Dist Ct ban against overnight camping on the Mall by demonstrating Vietnam veterans; Ramsey Clark to seek decision by full Sup Ct to overrule Burger's order; Govt, because of lateness of decision, decides not to seek removal of veterans at night

New York Times Abstracts, July 26, 1972

ABSTRACT:
Ex-US Atty Gen R Clark leaves US for 2-wk visit to N Vietnam; his law office says he is traveling as a private citizen with a group of citizens from 4 countries at the inv of the Hanoi Govt

New York Times Abstracts, August 24, 1972

ABSTRACT:
Atty Gen Kleindienst says, Aug 23, he doubts that anyone, including R Clark and J Fonda, would be prosecuted under law forbidding any Amer except the Pres from dealing with a foreign power, remarks at Lawyers for the Pres meeting during Repub Natl Conv

Public Opinion Online
August 31, 1972
QUESTION:
Do you agree of disagree with the critical statements he (former Attorney General Ramsey Clark) has made about American bombing of North Vietnam?
Agree - 21%
Disagree - 57
No opinion - 22

ORGANIZATION CONDUCTING SURVEY: OPINION RESEARCH CORPORATION
POPULATION: National adult
NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS: 974
INTERVIEW METHOD: Telephone
QUESTION NOTES: Asked of those who have heard or read something about Clark's trip to Hanoi (55%)
SURVEY NOTES: One of a series of surveys conducted for Richard Nixon while he was President
BEGINNING DATE: August 29, 1972
ENDING DATE: August 31, 1972
SOURCE DOCUMENT: NIXON SURVEY

Public Opinion Online
August 31, 1972
QUESTION:
Do you approve or disapprove of his (former Attorney General Ramsey Clark's) trip to Hanoi while hostilities are still underway with North Vietnam?
Approve - 36%
Disapprove - 48
No opinion - 16
ORGANIZATION CONDUCTING SURVEY: OPINION RESEARCH CORPORATION
POPULATION: National adult
NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS: 974
INTERVIEW METHOD: Telephone
QUESTION NOTES: Asked of those who have heard or read something about Clark's trip to Hanoi (55%)
SURVEY NOTES: One of a series of surveys conducted for Richard Nixon while he was President
BEGINNING DATE: August 29, 1972
ENDING DATE: August 31, 1972
SOURCE DOCUMENT: NIXON SURVEY


Copyright 1974 The New York Times Company: Abstracts

ABSTRACT:
About 2,500 attend rally at Westbury, NY, Music Fair for impeachment of Pres Nixon. Organizers say it is 1st major community rally in US for impeachment. Speakers include Repr L Aspin, former Atty Gen Ramsey Clark and former US Repr H G Douglas. Petitions containing 10,000 signatures, collected by Citizens Lobby for Impeachment Process, are presented to Repr L L Wolff, who says he will deliver them to HR Judiciary Com Chmn Repr P W Rodino Jr (S).

Copyright 1974 The New York Times Company: Abstracts

ABSTRACT:
Mrs L B Johnson will unveil portrait, by Robert Berks, of former Atty Gen Ramsey Clark at Justice Dept (S).

New York Times Abstracts, March 19, 1974

ABSTRACT:
Pvt Lewis Simon, who returned from exile in Sweden to dramatize issue of amnesty for draft resistors and deserters, is convicted of being AWOL at Mar 18 ct martial, Fort Dix. Lt Col Robert W Morrison hands down sentence of 7 mos confinement at hard labor and bad conduct discharge. Simon pleads not guilty to Army's charge of AWOL but acknowledges having flown to Sweden in '69 instead of returning to Fort Devens, Mass, after Christmas leave. Atty Harold Weiner's principal argument that Simon followed his conscience is countered by trial counsel Capt Joseph V Ippolito. Atty Tod Ensign comments that jury, composed of officers, is not peer group. Former Atty Gen Ramsey Clark testifies. Simon and wife Fia por (M).

New York Times Abstracts, April 4, 1974

ABSTRACT:
Ramsey Clark says he denied requests to wiretap Israeli Foreign Min Abba Eban and to break into foreign mission at UN when he was Atty Gen in Johnson Adm in late '60s, testimony before 3 Sen subcoms that are investigating justification of natl security wiretaps. Hearings are result of last yr's revelation that 13 Govt officials and 4 newsmen were tapped by Nixon Adm from '69 to '71. Sen Muskie says purpose of hearings is to explore balance between legitimate natl security needs and individual rights in wiretapping without a ct order. Clark says requested break-in at unidentified foreign mission at UN came from then-FBI Dir J Edgar Hoover 'apparently at the request of the Natl Security Agency'. Says Hoover explained that burglary was needed to 'procure cryptographic materials to facilitate decoding of intercepted transmissions'. Says request was never approved. Says he also refused permission to tap telephones of several employes of UN, Tanzanian Mission to UN and office of agr counselor at Soviet Embassy. Says that although he approved wiretapping while he was Atty Gen, he now doubts its real value and opposes it even for natl security. Former Atty Gen Elliot L Richardson defends Nixon Adm's right to tap 17 individuals, which Nixon had said was necessary to find and stop leaks to newsmen about 'highly sensitive foreign policy intitiatives'. Illus of Clark, Sens Muskie and E M Kennedy and E M Kennedy Jr (M).

New York Times Abstracts, October 20, 1974

ABSTRACT:
Barbara Keating, Conservative party candidate for US Sen from NY, campaigns in Bklyn. Presses her antibusing, antiabortion and antigovt spending campaign themes. Asserts she is 'only alternative' to 'ultraliberal' opponents Ramsey Clark, Dem candidate, and incumbent Sen Jacob K Javits, Repub. Encounters several women who praise her TV ads opposing abortion. Encounters one voter who asks what office she is running for. Explains she is running against 'Ramsey Clark--he went to Hanoi with Jane Fonda'. Clark was not accompanied by Fonda on controversial trip. Keating, asked why she made statement, declares 'mentally, I think they're together'. Adds 'I think they're both disgusting' (M).

New York Times Abstracts, October 20, 1974

ABSTRACT:
Daily News endorses Sen Jacob K Javits, Repub, for re-election. Argues that election of Dem opponent Ramsey Clark would be 'shame' upon NYS and 'danger' to nation. Sharply criticizes Clark for trip to N Vietnam in '72 and for his 'singular aversion' to punishing criminals while US Atty Gen. Holds Javits has 'conscientiously served' New Yorkers (S).

New York Times Abstracts, October 23, 1974

ABSTRACT:
US Sen Jacob K Javits (NYS) says he has received CIA tape recordings of ints given by his Dem opponent former US Atty Gen Ramsey Clark during Clark's trip to N Vietnam in '72. Declines to specify why he had sought tapes. Campaign spokesman indicates Javits will discuss Clark's Hanoi visit at news conf. Disclosure marks 1st time that Clark's controversial trip has emerged as campaign issue. Trip, made in midst of '72 US Pres campaign, was denounced by several Nixon Adm officials. Clark says that while visiting Hanoi he had refused request to give formal int on Hanoi radio, but adds that he had been interviewed frequently throughout trip with his remarks recorded presumably for later broadcast. Clark denounces Javits announcement as 'fraud on Amer people' and 'theatrical attempt to drag CIA into pol campaign'. Javits denies politicizing tactics and asserts that recordings are available to anyone under Freedom of Information Act. CIA spokesman says Javits request for tapes was processed routinely. CIA Dir William E Colby reasserts Javits's position on availability of recordings and adds that CIA is 'legally required' to provide them to anyone since they are not classified (S).

1974 The New York Times Company: Abstracts

ABSTRACT:
Ramsey Clark, Dem candidate for US Sen in NYS, makes public tapes and transcripts of '72 comments over Radio Hanoi. Denounces opponent Sen Jacob K Javits for 'cloak and dagger stunt' in ordering material from CIA. Material consists of Clark's expressions of horror at death and destruction caused by Amer bombing and praise of 'indomitable spirit' of Vietnamese people. Article notes that Clark's controversial trip to N Vietnam coincided with Pres Richard Nixon-Sen George McGovern '72 Pres campaign, during which time Nixon increased negotiations in Vietnam and bombing of N Vietna. Clark's antipol posture during current Sen campaign assessed. Conservative party candidate Mrs Barbara Keating denounces both opponents. Sampling of Clark's Radio Hanoi comments, translated by CIA, given (M).

And this was only a 4 year period and already it is enough to make you sick!! I wonder why his name was never brought up in regards to Kerry's Vietnam past, it seemd to me that he fits right in with The Kerry the Traitor agenda during the same time period. Wasn't Kerry involved with the Johnson gang somewhere along the line as well?


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[RogerRabbit]

[Mother]

OK. I must be so friggin stupid. Isn't this aiding and abetting the enemy?

[scotty61]

Even ambulance chasers think that Ramsey Clark has sunk to a new low.
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[baldeagle]

[scotty61]

Is that really Kerry in that picture or was it photo shopped?
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[kate]

yes it's Kerry
this was at Operation Dewey Canyon

You can see the original from Kerry’s own book
… in this pdf, on page 78 **
http://www.freekerrybook.org/documents/THENEWSOLDIERPHOTOS_000.PDF
http://www.freekerrybook.org/

Note the female leaning against the sign on the monument, white Tshirt, almost hidden by the guy behind Ramsey --supposedly that is Fonda..

**check out page 74 for a pic of ole Teddy K
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[kate]

[SBD]

Reprinted from NewsMax.com

Sunday, Jan. 2, 2005 11:33 p.m. EST
Kerry Ally Joins Saddam's Legal Team

A former U.S. attorney general who worked on anti-Vietnam war protests with failed presidential candidate John Kerry has joined Saddam Hussein's legal defense team.

Ramsey Clark told the BBC that he was teaming up with Saddam's Jordanian based lawyers in order to protect the accused war criminal's legal rights; complaining that the special tribunal established by the U.S.-led coalition to try the Iraqi dictator had no authority in law as a criminal court. The former attorney general has long maintained that Saddam was never as brutal as the Western media claimed, calling eyewitness accounts of Iraqi torture sessions "absurd."

"Propaganda can be pretty vicious," he told radio host Mike Siegel in 2003. "I've worked with problems of defection and informers for years and years and they're not generally reliable."

In March 2004, Clark endorsed John Kerry's presidential candidacy.

"I think John Kerry is a great human being," Saddam's new lawyer told an Accuracy in Media press conference, adding, "I knew [Kerry] when he was - I call a youngster - in his 20s."

Clark's relationship with the top Democrat goes back to April 1971, when he came to the rescue of Kerry's group, Vietnam Veterans Against the War after the Nixon administration threatened to have them arrested for protesting on the Capitol Mall.

In "The New Soldier" - Kerry's 1971 book chronicling the demonstration - photos show Clark and the future presidential candidate appearing onstage together.

"I saw [Kerry] as an extremely caring person," the Butcher of Baghad's attorney recalled last year. "[He] was deeply concerned for peace and the well-being of other people."

In the 1980s Clark and Kerry teamed up once again to block Reagan administration efforts to fight communism in Nicaragua.

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