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lthrneck Lieutenant
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: Motivational Stuff |
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Thought I'd pass this on.
A guy gets time to think over here and I was thinking about all the support we get from home. Sometimes it's overwhelming. We get care packages at times faster than we can use them. There are boxes and boxes of toiletries and snacks lining the center of every tent; the generosity has been amazing. So, I was pondering the question: "Why do we have so much support?"
In my opinion, it came down to one thing: Vietnam. I think we learned a lesson, as a nation, that no matter what, you have to support the troops who are on the line, who are risking everything. We treated them so poorly back then. When they returned was even worse. The stories are nightmarish of what our returning warriors were subjected to. It is a national scar, a blemish on our country, an embarrassment to all of us.
After Vietnam, it had time to sink in. The guilt in our collective consciousness grew. It shamed us.
However, we learned from our mistake. Somewhere during the late 1970's and into the 80's, we realized that we can't treat our warriors that way. So, starting during the Gulf War, when the first real opportunity arose to stand up and support the troops, we did. We did it to support our friends and family going off to war. But we also did it to right the wrongs from the Vietnam era. We treated our troops like the heroes they were, acknowledged and celebrated their sacrifice, and rejoiced at their homecoming instead of spitting on them.
And that support continues today for those of us in Iraq. Our country knows that it must support us and it does.
The lesson was learned in Vietnam and we are better because of it.
Everyone who has gone before is a hero. They are celebrated in my heart. I think admirably of all those who have gone before me. From those who fought to establish this country in the late 1770's to those I serve with here in Iraq. They have all sacrificed to ensure our freedom.
But when I get back, I'm going to make it a personal mission to specifically thank every Vietnam Vet I encounter for their sacrifice. Because if nothing else good came from that terrible war, one thing did. It was the lesson learned on how we treat our warriors. We as a country learned from our mistake and now treat our warriors as heroes, as we should. I am the beneficiary of their sacrifice. Not only for the freedom they, like veterans from other wars, ensured, but for how well our country now treats my fellow Marines and I. We are the beneficiaries of their sacrifice.
Semper Fidelis,
Major Brian P. Bresnahan
United States Marine Corps _________________ "Old Breed, New Breed, There's not a DAMM bit of
difference so long as it's the MARINE Breed"
- Lt. Gen Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller
Semper fi
uuurah
Carry On!!
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lthrneck Lieutenant
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Marine sniper credited with longest confirmed kill in Iraq
Submitted by: 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing
Story by: Computed Name: Cpl. Paul W. Leicht
Story Identification #: 200512134758
AR RAMADI, Iraq(Jan. 02, 2005) -- Seen through a twenty-power spot scope, terrorists scrambled to deliver another mortar round into the tube. Across the Euphrates River from a concealed rooftop, the Marine sniper breathed gently and then squeezed a few pounds of pressure to the delicate trigger of the M40A3 sniper rifle in his grasp.
The rifle's crack froze the booming Fallujah battle like a photograph. As he moved the bolt back to load another round of 7.62mm ammunition, the sniper's spotter confirmed the terrorist went down from the shot mere seconds before the next crack of the rifle dropped another.
It wasn't the sniper's first kill in Iraq, but it was one for the history books.
On Nov. 11, 2004, while coalition forces fought to wrest control of Fallujah from a terrorist insurgency, Marine scout snipers with Company B, 1st Battalion, 23rd Marine Regiment, 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit, applied their basic infantry skills and took them to a higher level.
"From the information we have, our chief scout sniper has the longest confirmed kill in Iraq so far," said Capt. Shayne McGinty, weapons platoon commander for "Bravo" Co. "In Fallujah there were some bad guys firing mortars at us and he took them out from more than 1,000 yards."
During the battle for the war-torn city, 1/23 Marine scout snipers demonstrated with patience, fearless initiative and wits that well-trained Marines could be some of the deadliest weapons in the world.
"You really don't have a threat here until it presents itself," said Sgt. Herbert B. Hancock, chief scout sniper, 1/23, and a 35-year-old police officer from Bryan, Texas, whose specialized training and skill helped save the lives of his fellow Marines during the battle. "In Fallujah we really didn't have that problem because it seemed like everybody was shooting at us. If they fired at us we just dropped them."
Stepping off on day one of the offensive from the northern edge of the Fallujah peninsula, the Marine reservists of 1/23, with their scout snipers, moved to secure a little island, but intense enemy fire near the bridgeheads limited their advance. Insurgents littered the city, filtering in behind their positions with indirect mortar and sniper fire.
"The insurgents started figuring out what was going on and started hitting us from behind, hitting our supply lines," said Hancock in his syrupy Texas drawl. "Originally we set up near a bridge and the next day we got a call on our radio that our company command post was receiving sniper fire. We worked our way back down the peninsula trying to find the sniper, but on the way down we encountered machinegun fire and what sounded like grenade launchers or mortars from across the river."
With a fire team of grunts pinned! down nearby, Hancock and his spotter, Cpl. Geoffrey L. Flowers, a May 2004 graduate of Scout Sniper School, helped them out by locating the source of the enemy fire.
"After locating the gun position we called in indirect fire to immediate suppress that position and reduced it enough so we could also punch forward and get into a house," explained Hancock. "We got in the house and started to observe the area from which the insurgents were firing at us. They hit us good for about twenty minutes and were really hammering us. Our indirect fire (landed on) them and must have been effective because they didn't shoot anymore after that."
Continuing south down the peninsula to link up with the Bravo Co. command post, Hancock and Flowers next set up on a big building, taking a couple shots across the river at some suspected enemy spotters in vehicles.
"The insurgents in the vehicles were spotting for the mortar rounds coming from across the river so we were trying to locate their positions to reduce them as well as engage the vehicles," said Hancock. "There were certain vehicles in areas where the mortars would hit. They would show up and then stop and then the mortars would start hitting us and then the vehicles would leave so we figured out that they were spotters. We took out seven of those guys in one day."
Later, back at the company command post, enemy mortar rounds once again began to impact.
"There were several incoming rockets and mortars to our compound that day and there was no way the enemy could have seen it directly, so they probably had some spotters out there," said 22-year-old Flowers who is a college student from Pearland, Texas.
" Our (company commander) told us to go find where the mortars were coming from and take them out so we went back out," remembered Hancock. "We moved south some more and linked up with the rear elements of our first platoon. Then we got up on a building and scanned across the river. We looked out of the spot scope and saw about three to! five insurgents manning a 120mm mortar tube. We got the coordinates for their position and set up a fire mission. We decided that when the rounds came in that I would engage them with the sniper rifle. We got the splash and there were two standing up looking right at us. One had a black (outfit) on. I shot and he dropped. Right in front of him another got up on his knees looking to try and find out where we were so I dropped him too. After that our mortars just hammered the position, so we moved around in on them."
The subsequent fire for effect landed right on the insurgent mortar position.
"We adjusted right about fifty yards where there were two other insurgents in a small house on the other side of the position," said Flowers. "There was some brush between them and the next nearest building about 400 yards south of where they were at and we were about 1,000 yards from them so I guess they thought we could not spot them. Some grunts were nearby with binoculars but they could not see them, plus they are not trained in detailed observation the way we are. We know what to look for such as target indicators and things that are not easy to see."
Hancock and Flowers then scanned several areas that they expected fire from, but the enemy mortars had silenced.
"After we had called in indirect fire and after all the adjustments from our mortars, I got the final 8-digit grid coordinates for the enemy mortar position, looked at our own position using GPS and figured out the distance to the targets we dropped to be 1,050 yards," said Flowers with a grin. "This time we were killing terrorism from more than 1,000 yards." _________________ "Old Breed, New Breed, There's not a DAMM bit of
difference so long as it's the MARINE Breed"
- Lt. Gen Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller
Semper fi
uuurah
Carry On!!
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Oh man, Bresnehan's really got me.
Thank God they're seeing support, over there. Thank God they aren't listening to AFRTS and reading Army Times and thinking that overall sentiment here is anti-war OR anti-military.
How terrible it would be, to feel alone and shunned. We can't *ever* let that happen again.
And as for our snipers - OOOOORAH!!!!! Dayummmmmm, they're good!
All of them are. God bless all of them and keep them. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
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Mother Former Member
Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 210
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Navy III wrote:
Quote: | How terrible it would be, to feel alone and shunned. We can't *ever* let that happen again. |
I second the motion.
Any discussion? |
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mtboone Founder
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 470 Location: Kansas City, MO.
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:23 am Post subject: |
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We as a country learned from our mistake and now treat our warriors as heroes, as we should.
But always understand, they will never attack our Warriors but they just attack the Government for their policies. In VN, they just attacked both of us. They have just changed tactics but now their beliefs, to make America a weak Nation and hope that we really lose. Be on Guard against their efforts. _________________ Terry Boone PCF 90
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:43 am Post subject: |
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mtboone wrote: | They have just changed tactics |
You got it, Terry! And isn't it a wonderful thing that so many people are "onto them," in these days, compared to back then?
Some are so careful to differentiate - to say that criticism of the mission is not criticism of the troops.
But, to not support our country and its mission is to withhold our support of the troops - to denigrate our efforts and our military.
I am not willing to give our military anything less than my full support and I am not willing to give my country anything less than complete allegiance. I am not alone - there are millions of us, this time. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
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gocars Lt.Jg.
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 101 Location: El Paso, Texas
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject: About Major Bresnahan |
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Most 'Nam vets are fanatical about making sure that a repeat performance of our own "welcome back to the world" won't occur again.
For me personally, I don't know which is worse, my PTSD or the haunting memories of how I was treated by the general public when I returned home.
Hopefully, The American people have learned from experience that shunning their warriors is shameful and despicable. Our young men and women currently serving our country deserve nothing less than honor and accolades from every U.S. citizen.
Gocars
101st Airborne
"Nam 67-70
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GM Strong Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 1579 Location: Penna
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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There is reciprocity here as well. We who served in the 60s and 70s want to make sure we say thanks now and not 25 years on to our Iraq and Afgahanistan veterans. I make a point of saying Thanks to any WWII, Desert Storm, and Current Veteran. To my fellows of the Viet Nam Era it's Welcome Home. _________________ 8th Army Korea 68-69 |
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DevilDon Lt.Jg.
Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 102 Location: Milwaukee
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Just dropped by, haven't been here much since the election. Just wanted to say you people are so right. A few weeks ago, a woman was saying to another at the checkout line how Bush was killing our kids and Iraqi kids over there.
I told her that Bush hasn't killed anybody, he might be saving your child and to come over to the side of freedom, not terror. She was aghast, but didn't say another word. The other shopper blushed, I think she was ashamed for not speaking up.
The election is over, but the war isn't. Someday I hope these azzholes will figure it out. |
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