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Uisguex Jack Rear Admiral
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:48 pm Post subject: Absolute jiberish |
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The following is some of the most convoluted parsing of words I' ve come across since hearing Bill Clinton explain that a certain types of sex were not sex and the meaning of the word 'is ' was quite unclear.
Behold from CNS news a bit of blathering jiberish. For me now at least it is clear how these fools nominated Kerry in the first place, they are clueless.
Whatever of my tax money is paying these people..... I want a refund.
http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200502\POL20050203b.html
Quote: | Congresswoman Attempts to Redefine the Phrase 'Occupying Force'
By Marc Morano
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
February 03, 2005
Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's use of the term "occupying force" to describe the U.S. military presence in Iraq was not a "harsh term," said Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Tex.), who attempted to redefine the terminology.
"I believe that we can, if you will, change "occupying's" definition to being collaborators -- collaborators with the Iraqi people and moving them toward their own self-government," Jackson Lee told Cybercast News Service on Wednesday night at the U.S. Capitol following President Bush's State of the Union address.
"So I think it is not a harsh term. We were there occupying, if you will, and we needed to do so for a certain degree, if you believe that the war created the havoc that occurred," Jackson Lee said.
"I think you can look at the U.S. presence in [Iraq] many different ways; and for large numbers of Iraqi people, despite the democratic elections [on Sunday], we are occupying," she added.
Pelosi, in her State of the Union rebuttal, said on Wednesday, "The United States cannot stay in Iraq indefinitely and continue to be viewed as an occupying force." Pelosi also criticized President Bush for not presenting a "clear plan" for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq.
Pelosi made her remarks despite the Iraqi elections on Sunday that were widely viewed as unprecedented and successful by most observers.
Republican Senate Conference Chairman Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania dismissed any attempt to soften or redefine Pelosi's description of the role of U.S. forces in Iraq.
"The bottom line is [Pelosi] said what she said. Words have meanings and everybody knows what 'occupying' means and what the connotations are and it's just very unfortunate that she would continue to use these kinds of bitter terms at a time when we have seen great foreign policy successes in the last two weeks," Santorum told Cybercast News Service Wednesday night.
"To say things that aid and abet those that would like to kill our soldiers in Iraq is not partisanship, it's just foolishness; and I think what [Pelosi] has done and what they (Democrats) continue to do is continue to replay this (U.S. presidential) election. The election is over, it's February, it's time to move on," Santorum added.
Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) also rebuffed Pelosi's terminology.
"I don't think [the use of the term 'occupier'] is correct in any stretch of the imagination," McCain told Cybercast News Service.
"I know the Iraqi people don't view it that way, and they are glad that we are there and they will be glad when we leave because that will mean that they can control their own situation," McCain said.
Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) also refuted Pelosi's Iraqi critique.
"We are not an occupying force. An occupying force would be there and want to stay. We want to leave, we don't want to be in Iraq any longer than we need to be," Brownback said.
"To call it an 'occupying force' I think is harmful to the troops. They don't believe they are occupiers, they don't want to be occupiers. They are liberators," Brownback said.
'Surprised at the turnout'
But Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat, defended Pelosi's comments.
"I think she is right. As a matter of fact, Iraq is just as dangerous today as it has been throughout this war, and we are occupying Iraq with no real plan for getting out of there. It may not sound nice, but that is the truth. That is the way it is," Waters said.
Waters did concede that Sunday's election turnout in Iraq was not what she expected.
"I was a bit surprised at the turnout. I think it spoke volumes about the people wanting to be able to vote and to have a democracy. I think that is good. But they also want the United States out of there," Waters said.
'Harmful words'
Republican Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina whose son (Captain Alan Wilson) has just completed a year of service in the Army National Guard in Iraq, said Pelosi's and Water's description of the U.S. military as an "occupying force" had personal significance.
"My view of the Democratic position is pathetic. Those are harmful words," Wilson said.
"Nancy Pelosi is very negative. But I am very grateful for the [past U.S.] occupying forces that have liberated Germany, liberated Japan, liberated Korea," Wilson said referring to the U.S. rebuilding of Germany and Japan after World War 2 and the U.S.'s defense of South Korea in 1950 following North Korea's invasion of the nation.
"Now we are liberating Iraq and Afghanistan and so I am very positive about our role in the world," Wilson added.
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GM Strong Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:18 am Post subject: |
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San Fran Nan is clueless on the whole subject of the military. Her little monolog was an insult and disgracful. She is an ultra-left pacifist from the Socialist Republic of the Bay Area. One Question, " Does she ever blink?" Her look just stares at you. _________________ 8th Army Korea 68-69 |
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Rep. SJ Lee, the candidate of Texas crack heads. They are well represented by one of their own.
This is an admin test, this is only a test. _________________ Retired AF E-8
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:05 am Post subject: |
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You know the more the Liberal Dems talk; the more they drive voters away from their party. People are shaking their heads wondering how this group of Morons ever got elected.
Teddy "The Rotunda" Kennedy spoke out and got spanked by the election in Iraq.
Kerry was a blabbering idiot on the Sunday shows. Now everyone can see why his election handlers stopped him from doing interviews.
Pelosi was having a severe BOTOX reaction as she gave the liberal rebuttle. (That is why her eyes were locked open.)
Who cares if that unknown boring minority leader grew up in Searchlight Nevada. I've been thru there and believe me it is nothing to brag about. The best view of Searchlight was in my rear view mirror.
Well at least we know every time they open their mouths on national TV they drive away another hundred thousand voters. Hmmmm,,, let's help them get some more bookings.
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LimaCharlie PO2
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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The only good thing to ever come out of Searchlight, Nevada was an empty bus. _________________ I was going to become an anarchist, but they had too many rules. |
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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LimaCharlie wrote: | The only good thing to ever come out of Searchlight, Nevada was an empty bus. |
I don't think they have a bus LC, I think you mistook a motor home that got lost coming back from Laughlin.
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GM Strong Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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How far left is the left coast/ Consider this on Drudge. SanFran Nan as too far right??? HMMM. Whacko City for sure. Where does that put sKerry.
Some In San Francisco Claim Pelosi Is Too Far To The Right
Tue Feb 08 2005 10:36:47 ET
Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has a share of hometown detractors -- at the far left of the political spectrum.
ROLL CALL reports on Tuesday: Helping to lead the charge is Tim Redmond, an editor at the San Francisco Bay Guardian, an alternative weekly, which has run several items over the years highly critical of Pelosi's positions, from her stance on the war to her support for legislation allowing private development in the Presidio National Park.
Pelosi's supporters say the fact that her liberal credentials are even questioned is simply an indication of the San Francisco political landscape. _________________ 8th Army Korea 68-69 |
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DLI78 PO3
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I had a good laugh tonight watching H&C when they covered the "Pelosi is too far right" story. Right of who? Mao Zedong or Joe Stalin?
Quote: | Pelosi was having a severe BOTOX reaction as she gave the liberal rebuttle. (That is why her eyes were locked open.)
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I always thought that wide-eyed stare she is famous for is because she has nothing but a total vacuum keeping her ears apart. Her political beliefs and statements support that conclusion. _________________ DLI 78
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Snipe Senior Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Ah! Searchlight, Nevada! The Southern enterance to highway 95
200 miles south of Scotty's Junction, home of the Cottontail Ranch,
a perennial favorite on the 11th/12th Naval District Tour Guide (off
limits list).
(^_^) _________________ Tin Can Sailor |
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GM Strong Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Snipe wrote: | Ah! Searchlight, Nevada! The Southern enterance to highway 95
200 miles south of Scotty's Junction, home of the Cottontail Ranch,
a perennial favorite on the 11th/12th Naval District Tour Guide (off
limits list).
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Kind of a Micro sized Hot Springs, Ark maybe. _________________ 8th Army Korea 68-69 |
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Snipe Senior Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Kind of a Micro sized Hot Springs, Ark maybe.[/quote]
Oh, No such thing. Cottontail Ranch is a chain link compound in the
dessert with about a half dozen trailers and a large generator inside.
The War Department is from Hot Springs and I've been going there on
a regular basis for the last 40 years. Now Hot Springs (and Peoria,
Ill too) have been gang hangouts since prohibition but both places
at least have a bit of ambiance about them.
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GM Strong Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Snipe wrote: | Kind of a Micro sized Hot Springs, Ark maybe. |
Oh, No such thing. Cottontail Ranch is a chain link compound in the
dessert with about a half dozen trailers and a large generator inside.
The War Department is from Hot Springs and I've been going there on
a regular basis for the last 40 years. Now Hot Springs (and Peoria,
Ill too) have been gang hangouts since prohibition but both places
at least have a bit of ambiance about them.
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Appreciate the heads ups. Our gang won't plan any trips to Searchlight. When I couldn't locate an address for the Restaurant Harry was taking about, I became suspicious. _________________ 8th Army Korea 68-69 |
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