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kate Admin
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:31 am Post subject: Ward Churchill's MilitaryClaimsFalse //Writes WarCrimesBook |
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The Churchill Saga Continues
Ward Churchill's Military Claims Proven False
Gunny Bob Breaks Story of Prof. Ward Churchill’s Real Military Background
February 11, 2005
Men’sWearDaily
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DENVER—An exhaustive investigation by Bob Newman of Newsradio 850 KOA (Denver), who is also a frequent guest military & terrorism analyst on the FOX News Channel and a Men's News Daily columnist, into the genuine Vietnam service record of radical University of Colorado Professor Ward Churchill, has revealed that Churchill’s claimed combat experience is in direct contradiction to his official military records.
After a confidential source provided Mr. Newman with documents pertaining to Professor Churchill’s military service and his employment at the University of Colorado, Mr. Newman began an investigation into the documents’ authenticity.
Using his own sources and calling upon the investigative skills of FOX News Channel’s Rita Cosby, Mr. Newman was able to verify that Professor Churchill, despite his public claim (in a 1987 Denver Post interview) of having been a paratrooper (Airborne qualified) who conducted long-range reconnaissance patrols (LRRPs; extremely dangerous missions conducted by some of the most elite soldiers in the US Army) hunting North Vietnamese in Vietnam during and after the Tet Offensive of 1968, and despite his claim that he was a point man in an infantry combat unit, was in fact trained only as a jeep driver and projectionist (he was trained to operate film-strip machines and movie projectors), according to official documentationfrom the National Personnel Records Center, the US repository for military records.
Denver attorneys Dan Caplis and Craig Silverman, both colleagues of Mr. Newman at Clear Channel Colorado, then acquired Professor Churchill’s original resume that resulted in his being hired by the University of Colorado. That resume matched exactly the resume Gunny Bob had acquired from his confidential source. On that resume, Professor Churchill cited no combat experience whatsoever, no Airborne training, no infantry training or experience and no winning of the Combat Infantry Badge. Instead, it said his experience in Vietnam consisted of his duties as a “Public Information Specialist,” as which he “wrote and edited the battalion newsletter and wrote news releases.”
Verification of Professor Churchill’s real Vietnam service record was completed with the direct assistance of the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis.
Gunny Bob notes that in the same 1987 Denver Post report, Professor Churchill admitted to being a bomb-building and weapons instructor for the Weather Underground, a domestic terrorist group active in the 1970s.
Gunny Bob won a 2002 National Edward R. Murrow Award for investigative reporting on homeland security. |
investigative skills of Rita Cosby? _________________ .
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Rdtf CNO
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:49 am Post subject: |
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This is great!! We need to make sure MSM has no choice but to report this. |
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Beatrice1000 Resource Specialist
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:53 am Post subject: Re: Ward Churchill's Military Claims Proven False |
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kate wrote: | The Churchill Saga Continues
Ward Churchill's Military Claims Proven False
Gunny Bob Breaks Story of Prof. Ward Churchill’s Real Military Background -February 11, 2005
Men’sWearDaily |
Thanks, Kate!! Man oh man, great research -- lets watch the "professor" dance now.... what an absolute liar, fraud, hate spewing person.
(Now we need an Indian spokesperson to come forward on that other little fraud issue....)
....and what will WISCONSIN do about their special speaker -- I was surprised to see this article:
** "Wisconsin School to let Colo. Professor Speak," by JR Ross, AP – 2/11/05 **
MADISON, Wis. - A Colorado professor who once compared some World Trade Center victims to a Nazi war criminal will be allowed to speak at the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater next month, a decision the chancellor said was repugnant but necessary under First Amendment principles of free speech. …. Republican State Rep. Steve Nass began circulating a resolution Thursday to condemn Miller's decision that he hoped the full Legislature would vote on next week. Nass questioned why the university would allow someone to speak who had engaged in what he called anti-American hate speech. “The bottom line is common sense has to prevail here," said Nass, who graduated from Whitewater in 1978. "This is hate speech. The chancellor is saying it's OK to bring hate speech to the university so long as it does not cost the university money." ....
Powerline article about the above article: “Now I see the analogy,” – 2/11/05
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kate Admin
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:03 am Post subject: |
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now this nauseates me....I'm rather defensive about Old Glory
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Quote: | Professor Ward Churchill's CU Ethnic Studies Department Office pictures | click to enlarge
>notice the American flag—stars replaced with skull&crossbones!
>defaced with handwritings of some sort
aren't there laws about defacing the flag??? _________________ .
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Navy wife Research Director
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Kate,
This is fascinating! To quote Gunny Bob's article:
Quote: | Verification of Professor Churchill’s real Vietnam service record was completed with the direct assistance of the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis. |
My mind goes right back to John Kerry. Just HOW did the National Personnel Records Center assist Bob Newman in obtaining Churchill's records yet they can't obtain John Kerry's? Didn't I hear this Churchill guy on TV saying his military record wasn't anyone's business? Or perhaps I read it since there's been so much about him in the news and the Blogs. |
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GenrXr Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:30 am Post subject: |
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Liberals who have never been in combat are always the ones making up wild exagerated war stories whereas people who have been in combat never talk about it regardless of ideology. This cuts to the core of why the MSM slammed the swiftvets, because the swiftvets decided to speak up and it was democrats as well as republicans who represented the swiftvet community and this stand on princple threatened their hold on the publics imagination. _________________ "An activist is the person who cleans up the water, not the one claiming its dirty."
"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to stand by and do nothing." Edmund Burke (1729-1797), Founder of Conservative Philosophy |
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Beatrice1000 Resource Specialist
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:06 am Post subject: |
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kate wrote: | now this nauseates me....I'm rather defensive about Old Glory DenverStationKHOW
Quote: | Professor Ward Churchill's CU Ethnic Studies Department Office pictures | click to enlarge
>notice the American flag—stars replaced with skull&crossbones!
>defaced with handwritings of some sort
aren't there laws about defacing the flag??? |
Thanks again, Kate. This is incredible. It is important to look at all of these pictures – they are very telling. Churchill has created a “den” of sorts, a strangely anti-American world. (No one at the University had any concern about his strange place? Gives me the CREEPS.) Note that the US flag with skulls on it instead of stars has the words “Stop the” and then “Open the Border!” On the flag’s stripes, the writing that I can see: “If this is freedom why are so many in prison?” This is an obvious take on Rousseau: “Man is born free, and everywhere he is in chains.” (Marx was inspired by Rousseau. He wrote in the Communist Manifesto: “The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.”)
There is a mandala with the US flag in the middle – look at the pictures around the circle… the words say in a continuum: “USA oppression racism war ignorance now education peace unity freedom.” I suppose the booklets beneath this picture give the necessary “education” about the elements in the picture.
There’s another mandala (outside his door) with what, the Spanish Inquisition in the center?? Around the circle it says “old genocide destruction gold rape then mestizo treasure culture meeting new.” (His door has a sign that says “Safe Zone.”)
Poster beneath his name on his door: “Warsaw 1943 – Never Again! Defend Arab, Asian and Immigrant Rights” and above that: “Bush Lies.” (I’m all for defending people’s rights, but why single out only the rights of Arabs, Asians & immigrants?)
Are these displays projects he had his students do? Or are they just gifts to him by admiring students to add to his décor, seeking approval, showing how well they have learned the subjects he has taught?
On his door: “Dept. of Ethnic Studies -- American Studies Program”
American Studies Program -- Wonder who oversees this.... and what their "program" really is....
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SBD Admiral
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:58 am Post subject: Re: Ward Churchill's Military Claims Proven False |
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Beatrice1000 wrote: | (Now we need an Indian spokesperson to come forward on that other little fraud issue....)
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Rocky Mountain News (Denver, CO) February 26, 1995, Sunday
SECTION: EDITORIAL; Ed. F; Pg. 87A
Another certified, if only slightly, Native American
BYLINE: Dave Shiflett
It is with great honor and anticipation that this correspondent today announces that he is an Indian. Not much of one, to be sure, but my family is in possession of documentation from a professional geneaologist indicating that way back when, an ancestor, having recently survived a long boat ride with persons of questionable legal standing and no doubt bad dentistry, went native, so to speak, and wedded the blood of Europe with the blood of America.
We have known about this for quite some time, but haven't made an issue of it. Who would care? And what would be the point?
Yet it happens that there are increasing advantages to claiming Indian ancestry, and in these changing economic times we pundits are careful to keep our options open. Some options are, indeed, encouraging. Among the many possibilities for a SNA (Slightly Native American) is a faculty position at CU's Center for Studies of Ethnicity and Race in America (CSERA).
Some people will say: ''Wait a minute. You've got to be a real Indian to get a job like that. Otherwise, you would expose the center to ridicule and deny real Indians their due.'' Well, maybe not. Among the offerings in CSERA's spring schedule of courses are two by Ward Churchill, who claims to be an Indian but whose ancestry has been brought into question. Some Indians say he isn't one, and he did lose his legal standing to sell his artwork as an Indian.
In that these things are hard to prove, perhaps Churchill should be given the benefit of the doubt. He does, after all, look every bit as much an Indian as I do - as does Britt Ecklund. The larger point is this: If he qualifies on racial grounds, so do I. Consider this my application.
Readers will now inject another objection: ''Not just anyone can be a professor. What in the world would you teach?'' Ordinarily, this would be a reasonable inquiry.
Yet it is at this point that one becomes thankful for the flexible standards prevalent on American campuses. This spring, for example, Churchill is signed up to teach a course called ''Topics: State of Native America.'' Here's the description: ''The course is designed to provide an intensive examination of a particular topic, theme, issue or problem concerning American Indians as chosen by the instructor. Examples of topics include Contemporary Indian Literature.'' Or, apparently, anything else that comes to the prof's mind. Not a bad deal, at least for the prof.
This is hardly the oddest course offered by CSERA. Its ''Introduction to Lesbian, Bisexual and Gay Studies'' will investigate such topics as ''queer theory,'' and its class on ''Environmental Ethics: Race, Class and Pollution Politics'' is taught by the dynamic Adrienne Anderson, who apparently delights in browbeating industry spokespeople who make the mistake of accepting an invitation to lecture her students. One visitor complained to school officials that students ''repeatedly interrupted with accusatory comments.'' Anderson, for her part, ''was a key performer in the irrational, almost mob-like behavior.''
Churchill, as many know, is also at home in a mob, including the one that stopped Denver's Columbus Day parade. He has taken a similarly pinched view of other First Amendment issues, as when he said a local Klansman should be jailed for merely expressing his opinions, and that those who defend the right to express such opinions may also be guilty of criminal acts. And some people say Coach Bill McCartney is an extremist.
If accepted at CSERA, I will demand some unpopular changes. For one thing, we must do away with this idea that only a Certified Native American, or a Slightly Native American, or even a QNA (Questionable Native American) can teach about ''Indian'' subjects. Inclusion in any of these groups no more makes one an expert on ''Indian'' issues than being an Englishman makes one an expert on Shakespeare. That's a bit of heresy, of course, but so be it.
The other matter concerns the utility of such courses. As a fully documented SNA, I can attest that they are invaluable for those of us needing work. As regarding students, the answer is not quite so clear, though these courses should prove invaluable to those who hope to make a career out of hectoring people in public parks.
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Beatrice1000 Resource Specialist
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:11 am Post subject: Re: Ward Churchill's Military Claims Proven False |
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SBD wrote: | Beatrice1000 wrote: | (Now we need an Indian spokesperson to come forward on that other little fraud issue....)
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Rocky Mountain News (Denver, CO) February 26, 1995, Sunday
SECTION: EDITORIAL; Ed. F; Pg. 87A
Another certified, if only slightly, Native American |
Thanks for that article... I hope there will be many more like it.
Just heard announced on C-Span, Churchill & Horowitz on tomorrow night:
C-SPAN, SATURDAY:
8:45 p.m. (EST) (1:05)
Speech
On the Justice of Roosting Chickens
University of Colorado, Boulder
Russell Means, American Indian Movement
Ward Churchill, University of Colorado, Boulder
9:50 p.m. (EST) (.30)
Speech
Republican Issues
College Republican National Committee
David Horowitz, FrontPage Magazine
Ryan Call, College Republican National Committee
(Note that Churchill's program is an hour, and David gets 1/2...)
UPDATE: The above sched. was copied from C-Span on Friday. It is now Sat. nite--just checked C-Span's schedule and neither of these programs is listed.... I emailed them to find out what happened to these programs.
FINAL UPDATE: - Sat night: well, the show with Churchill from Tuesday is on C-Span right now -- and Horowitz will be on in about 5 minutes. - the schedule is back --
Who is Russell Means?
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shawa CNO
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Means is a long-time Indian activist. He has been an actor in a couple
of movies. I heard him being interviewed defending Churchill.
Didn't sound too brilliant. |
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I B Squidly Vice Admiral
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:53 am Post subject: |
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I don't know how brilliant Russell Means is. The Hannity show was a disgrace to Hannity. At least Joe Pyne let the guest hang himself before starting his rant.
Means was the first National Director of AIM and prominent in the Wounded Knee standoff in 1972. He ran as a libertarian candidate for president ('8 and governor (NM '01). He was the last Mohican in the popular film of the same name. He's tribally related to Crazy Horse and definitely holds a grudge against the 'white eyes'. Likely his reason blends into his spirit world and he dreams of killing Long Hair on the Greasy Grass. |
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Beatrice1000 Resource Specialist
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:50 am Post subject: |
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I B Squidly wrote: | ...The Hannity show was a disgrace to Hannity. At least Joe Pyne let the guest hang himself before starting his rant. |
I missed Hannity tonite ... but did watch a bit of Brit Hume's show, and
there was a brief mention of Churchill going to... LIBYA --so I hunted the article down -- basically to see if I actually heard what I thought I had heard -- this guy has been busy, hasn't he?
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“Churchill met with Gadhafi,” by Charlie Brennan & Laura Frank
Rocky Mountain News – 2/11/05
This is not the first time Ward Churchill has disagreed with the U.S. government's idea of who is, and is not, a terrorist. In April 1983, Churchill went to Libya to meet with Col. Moammar Gadhafi. The U.S. government had banned travel to Libya two years earlier, saying Gadhafi supported terrorism.
Churchill traveled to Tripoli and Benghazi as a representative of the International Indian Treaty Council and the American Indian Movement. He went with Dace Means, brother of AIM leader Russell Means. They were seeking recognition from Gadhafi of the U.S. government's breaking of Indian treaties. "The main thing we sought and received was diplomatic support," Churchill told the Associated Press at the time. He added, "AIM has not requested arms from the Libyan government." (con’t) |
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Another Charlatan exposed by the Cyberspace Blogosphere. Thank God for Al Gore’s invention.
_________________ Retired AF E-8
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FreeFall LCDR
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:27 am Post subject: |
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What gets me now that a lot of colleges require students to take 1 or 2 quarters/semesters of "Ethnic Studies", so our kids HAVE to take these classes taught by clowns/charlatans like this.
Disgusting. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:58 am Post subject: |
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FreeFall wrote: | What gets me now that a lot of colleges require students to take 1 or 2 quarters/semesters of "Ethnic Studies", so our kids HAVE to take these classes taught by clowns/charlatans like this.
Disgusting. |
Your college kids come home for the Holidays singing the praises of Michael Moore and begin to argue with you insisting they know the truth. I can't tell you how many Republican parents I heard this from while volunteering for the Bush Campaign. You raise your kids to have moral values and respect and in one semester they come back posessed. I am beginning to think that this is a planned systematic attempt to destroy this country from within. These kids know more about Karl Marx than they do about Thomas Jefferson.
A few minutes of searching Google and you will see the Left at work on our youth.
Alliance of Radical Academic and Intellectual Organizations
http://www.leftalliance.org/index.htm
The Alliance of Radical Academic/Intellectual Organizations is a network of educational collectives and caucuses--brought together by the conjuncture of the "war on terrorism"; the degradation of the economy and casualization of labor exacerbated by, but not totally attributable to, the war; growing repression; and privatization, corporatization, and de-funding of higher education.
And from Columbia University--Marxism and the American Indian
http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/myindian.htm
With links to albasrah.net: voice of the Iraqi resistance.
http://www.albasrah.net/index1.html
Early American Marxism http://www.marxists.org/subject/usa/eam/index.html
I would have to agree with FreeFall and say Disgusting!!
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