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 Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:27 pm Post subject: Churchill admits he is not Indian |
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On Drudge:
UPDATE: BESIEGED ETHNIC STUDIES PROF ADMITS HE'S NOT AN INDIAN...
Churchill attacks
essay’s critics
University of Colorado president calls for calm
By Craig Gima
cgima@starbulletin.com
Ward Churchill, the outspoken Colorado professor who created a national uproar by comparing 9/11 victims to Nazis, told an overflow crowd at the University of Hawaii last night that he is the target of a right-wing strategy to attack academia.
"I was targeted because they thought I would be an easy target," Churchill told the crowd of about 800. "That was a mistake.
"It's not just an attempt to purge me," he said. "It's a purge of the academy."
The crowd was mostly sympathetic to Churchill, a University of Colorado ethnic studies professor. He was applauded more than a dozen times and was greeted at least three times with standing ovations.
Before the speech began, about a dozen members of a UH college Republican group protested.
"I never wanted to be a poster boy for academic freedom," Churchill said. "You can't give an inch. If you let this one down, you've lost it all."
Much of Churchill's speech was devoted to explaining and expanding on his essay written on Sept. 11, 2001, that called 9/11 victims "little Eichmanns."
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LUCY PEMONI / STAR-BULLETIN
University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill drew about 800 people to his speech at UH-Manoa last night -- plus a dozen protesters like these.
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He said the theme of his essay and a later book was that the United States has been involved in violating international law and killing innocents and should not be surprised that some people would want to kill Americans -- the "chickens coming home to roost," as his essay is titled.
He argued that the World Trade Center could be considered a legitimate target because it is a symbol of the financial power that allows the United States to flex its military might.
He said if you read his essay, he called the "technicians" in the World Trade Center "little Eichmanns," a reference to Adolf Eichmann, who actually did not kill any Jews but made it possible for the trains to run on time and for the Holocaust to take place.
It's obvious, Churchill said, that he did not mean to say children, janitors, firefighters and innocent bystanders were part of that group. Instead, he said, he was referring to investment bankers and others who make the killing of innocents by the U.S. military and U.S. policy possible.
Churchill did address the issue of his ethnicity, admitting that he is not Native American.
"Is he an Indian? Do we really care?" he said, quoting those he called his "white Republican" critics.
"Let's cut to the chase; I am not," he said.
His pedigree is "not important," Churchill said: "The issue is the substance of what is said."
He went on to explain that the issue of whether he is Native American has been blown up by sloppy reporting and reporters quoting other reporters.
His speech drew mostly positive reaction from those who attended. But Tyrone Hogenauer said he was disappointed.
"I thought he was going to talk on free speech," Hogenauer said.
Instead, Churchill talked about himself and attacked his critics the way they are attacking him, Hogenauer said: "It's a sad thing."
UH student Kirsten Chong said her professors assigned her to listen to the speech.
"He was humorous and he certainly didn't pull any punches," she said, adding that because she is native Hawaiian, she agrees with much of what he said.
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If he finally admited that he is not an Indian, then I wonder if he will now admit that he is not a Airborne LRRP as he claimed in 1987. (see below e-mail sent to me)
Edit: Link to original Article:
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2005/0205/021105-ward-churchill.htm
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My friends at POW Network tell me that the following information is correct. Note the irony: this anti-American scum wrapped himself in the flag when it suited him. Even though Erika Holzer and I wrote a book entitled FAKE WARRIORS: IDENTIFYING, EXPOSING AND PUNISHING THOSE WHO FALSIFY THEIR MILITARY SERVICE, our extensive research did not turn up many people who were at root profoundly against our Nation and for our enemies, while invoking military service and its implied patriotism to advance their personal goals. Long ago, as a Professor of Law at Brooklyn Law School, I was appointed by the Board of Trustees to prosecute a colleague in a de-tenuring proceeding, with the faculty sitting as jury. He was convicted, and thrown out. That is what must happen to Churchill.
Name: Tom Posey RVN 70-71 Email: blueranger1@earthlink.net Comments: This one needs national exposure Ward Churchill\'s Military Claims Proven False DENVER—An exhaustive investigation by Bob Newman of Newsradio 850 KOA (Denver), who is also a frequent guest military & terrorism analyst on the FOX News Channel and a Men\'s News Daily columnist, into the genuine Vietnam service record of radical University of Colorado Professor Ward Churchill, has revealed that Churchill’s claimed combat experience is in direct contradiction to his official military records. After a confidential source provided Mr. Newman with documents pertaining to Professor Churchill’s military service and his employment at the University of Colorado, Mr. Newman began an investigation into the documents’ authenticity. Using his own sources and calling upon the investigative skills of FOX News Channel’s Rita Cosby, Mr. Newman was able to verify that Professor Churchill, despite his public claim (in a 1987 Denver Post interview) of having been a paratrooper (! Airborne qualified) who conducted long-range reconnaissance patrols (LRRPs; extremely dangerous missions conducted by some of the most elite soldiers in the US Army) hunting North Vietnamese in Vietnam during and after the Tet Offensive of 1968, and despite his claim that he was a point man in an infantry combat unit, was in fact trained only as a jeep driver and projectionist (he was trained to operate film-strip machines and movie projectors), according to official documentation from the National Personnel Records Center, the US repository for military records. Denver attorneys Dan Caplis and Craig Silverman, both colleagues of Mr. Newman at Clear Channel Colorado, then acquired Professor Churchill’s original resume that resulted in his being hired by the University of Colorado. That resume matched exactly the resume Gunny Bob had acquired from his confidential source. On that resume, Professor Churchill cited no combat experience whatsoever, no Airborne training, no infantry training or experience and no winning of the Combat Infantry Badge. Instead, it said his experience in Vietnam consisted of his duties as a “Public Information Specialist,” as which he “wrote and edited the battalion newsletter and wrote news releases.” Verification of Professor Churchill’s real Vietnam service record was completed with the direct assistance of the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis. Gunny Bob notes that in the same 1987 Denver Post report, Professor Churchill admitted to being a bomb-building and weapons instructor for the Weather Underground, a domestic terrorist group active in the 1970s. Gunny Bob won a 2002 National Edward R. Murrow Award for investigative reporting on homeland security. |
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| Quote: | "UH student Kirsten Chong said her professors assigned her to listen to [Churchill's] speech.
"He was humorous and he certainly didn't pull any punches," she said, adding that because she is native Hawaiian, she agrees with much of what he said." |
".....because she is native Hawaiian, she agrees with much of what he said." 
I'm sorry, the logic of that statement escapes me completely. Can anyone provide a clue? On second thought, Churchill probably spoke of the evil United States annexing Hawaii in 1893, claiming it as a territory in 1900, and granting statehood in 1959.
I'm sure Ms. Chong would have preferred the "old" ways in the islands:
| Quote: | "In the centuries before the arrival of Captain Cook, Hawaiian society was a highly stratified system with strictly maintained castes. Like medieval Europe and the other Polynesian nations, each caste had its assigned tasks and responsibilities. Not until 1810 was there a single king over all Hawaii with the reign of Kamehameha. Before then, there were a number of small kingdoms that divided the islands and were often at war with each other.
"In each of these small kingdoms, the king headed Hawaii's social pyramid, assisted by a chief minister and a high priest. Next in ranking were the ali'i or chiefs, who varied in power depending on ancestral lineage and ability. Persons especially trained in the memorization of genealogies were important members of a chief's retinue because a chief's ranking in society was determined by the legitimacy of his genealogy. Chiefs ruled over portions of the land at the whim of the king, who could remove and replace them according to a system of rewards and punishments." |
http://www.hawaiian-roots.com/earlyhawaii.htm
Yep, a paradise for sure. Too bad it's such a rotten place now. 
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| If Churchill really did acknowledge that he is not an indian, he could be toast at his university. As far as I can tell from a distance, every promotion and his tenure were not based on real accomplishments but on his claim to indian status. People routinely get fired from real jobs for lying on their resumes. |
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When Churchill was hired wasn't it all Native Americans they were interviewing for this position? If so his admission he is not Native American would be grounds for automatic dismissal.
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If this man was successful at one thing, it was showing what a bunch of duds the people were who hired and pandered to him all this time. They should be humiliated and embarrassed, because goodness knows they earned it. For a gaggle of supposed educated people they were pretty bloody stupid.
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| GM Strong wrote: | | If this man was successful at one thing, it was showing what a bunch of duds the people were who hired and pandered to him all this time. They should be humiliated and embarrassed, because goodness knows they earned it. For a gaggle of supposed educated people they were pretty bloody stupid. |
Hear Hear!
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| That presumes that those who hired and tenured Churchill are capable of feeling embarrassed. |
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| GenrXr wrote: | | When Churchill was hired wasn't it all Native Americans they were interviewing for this position? If so his admission he is not Native American would be grounds for automatic dismissal. |
Of course Xr Ward is an Indian. He is a direct decendent of Shah Jehan who built the Taj Majal in India or so he says. I believe him, don't you?
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| wpage wrote: | | ...I wonder if he will now admit that he is not a Airborne LRRP... |
He lied about his heritage so he probably lied about his Vietnam service, university credentials, research rigor and veracity, and on and on. He seems to be just another effete, edu-elite, America hater with a progressive agenda. He's irrelevant and boring now so let's get on with the dismissal, the law suit and the payoff. Regardless of the cost, we need to clean the scum out of our schools before they become western versions of madrasas.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject: Churchill |
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Michael Medved(radio) speculates that Churchill's claims of Indian ancestry and LRP service catapulted him into the position of Dean of Dept of Ethics/Humanities.
According to Medved,Churchill manipulated his ancestry to obtain head of the Dept without a PHD.
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I've heard more excerpts from Churchill's rant in Hawaii today, including advocating wiping the United States "off the planet". Seems to me he's in clear violation of the Smith Act of 1940, since codified as 18 U.S. Code § 2385:
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Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof--
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons. |
Of course, we all know that traitorous, seditious or treasonous utterances or acts seem to be totally ignored these days (Kerry, et al, for example) but surely there's a point beyond which we say "enough". Isn't there?
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| PhantomSgt wrote: | | GenrXr wrote: | | When Churchill was hired wasn't it all Native Americans they were interviewing for this position? If so his admission he is not Native American would be grounds for automatic dismissal. |
Of course Xr Ward is an Indian. He is a direct decendent of Shah Jehan who built the Taj Majal in India or so he says. I believe him, don't you?
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In the interests of fairness and accuracy (a hallmark of the SwiftVets and this board) we should acknowledge a CORRECTION by the media in Hawaii of the story that Churchill admitted he was not an Indian American. http://starbulletin.com/2005/02/23/news/index2.html
The correction is the pink (appropriate) box near the bottom of the article. What he is quoted as saying is, however, a wonderous mishmash of incomprehensible dung, worthy of a tenured professor at a renowned state university. I'm sure his defense would be that he was not hired to be an English teacher. 
ON THE OTHER HAND
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http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096410295
| Quote: | | Although the national furor struck with the unpredictable suddenness of a Great Lakes storm, Churchill has long been a divisive and somewhat feared figure in Indian country, especially among his former colleagues in the American Indian Movement. Some prominent activists involved in earlier confrontations have devoted a great deal of energy to investigating his claim to be an American Indian himself and have found no evidence to support it. |
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Here is what was in the pink box:
| Quote: | Churchill misquoted in article on UH speech
The Honolulu Star-Bulletin, incorrectly quoted University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill as admitting that he was not American Indian.
The story about Churchill's Tuesday night speech at the University of Hawaii-Manoa said the professor noted that his "white Republican" critics were asking, "Is he an Indian? Do we really care?"
"Let's cut to the chase, I'm not," the quote in yesterday's paper continued.
But a review of video and audio tapes of the speech shows that Churchill actually said: "Is he an Indian? We really care. We're trying to protect the rights of Indians to divine for themselves, say this circle of flies in the form of white reporters circling a manure pile like it's of all consequential importance. Cut to the chase on that."
Churchill went on to say that he is an associate member of the Keetoowah tribe and that associates are enrolled in the band after their genealogy has been vetted by the enrollment office. He said that he is less than one-quarter Indian, so he does not qualify to be a full member.
The issue of whether Churchill has Indian blood is part of the national debate over the controversial professor who gained notoriety for comparing some Sept. 11, 2001, victims to Nazis. |
Indian country has some interesting articles on his claims:
http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096410305
and this one: http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096410335
Harjo: Why Native identity matters: A cautionary tale Email this page Print this page
Posted: February 10, 2005
by: Suzan Shown Harjo / Indian Country Today
I met Ward Churchill 15 years ago, before he gained his present infamous reputation. My friend, a college professor, said this Cherokee-Creek guy wanted to meet me. I expected to meet an earnest young student who would relate to me as Creek (I'm Hodulgee Muscogee on Dad's side and enrolled Cheyenne on Mom's).
Instead, there was Churchill. Caucasian in appearance and in his mid-40s, he was wearing dark glasses and going for the look of an Indian activist circa 1970.
I asked him who his Creek people were and other questions we ask in order to find the proper way of relating. Churchill behaved oddly and did not respond (it's unusual to find Indians so deficient in social skills).
Churchill now refers to that as an ''interrogation,'' which tells me he still does not know how to be with us.
Most Native people want to know each other's nation, clan, society, family, Native name - who are you to me and how should I address you? It's an enormously respectful way that we introduce ourselves and establish kinship.
It wasn't much of an encounter, but it was enough to tell me that he was not culturally Muscogee or Cherokee and had not been around many of our people.
The next time I heard his name was from Native artists at the Santa Fe Indian Market. Churchill was peddling a scandal sheet, railing against White Earth Chippewa artist David Bradley and the New Mexico and federal Indian arts and crafts laws, which Bradley and other Indian artists helped to enact.
It turned out that Churchill was a painter - not a good one, but bad art is not illegal - who would face stiff penalties if he promoted his work as made by an Indian if he were not, in fact, an Indian.
The Indian arts laws bow to tribal determinations of tribal citizenry or membership. There's also an ''artisan'' category as a way for a Native nation to claim an artist who does not meet its citizenship criteria, but who is part of one of its families.
People began to check out Churchill's claims. Cherokee journalist David Cornsilk verified that Churchill and his ancestors were not on the Cherokee Nation rolls. Creek-Cherokee historian Robert W. Trepp did not find them on the Muscogee (Creek) Nation rolls.
Churchill lashed out against tribal leaders, sovereignty, citizenship and rolls, attacking Native people who did not support his claims as ''card-carrying Indians'' and ''blood police.''
Then, he went tribe-shopping. He added Metis, then Keetoowah, variously claiming to be an associate member, an enrolled member or 1/16 or 3/16 Cherokee.
Oneida comedian Charlie Hill recalls Churchill interviewing him in 1978. ''I asked him, 'Are you Indian?' And he said, 'No.' Later, I heard that he was saying he was Indian and wondered just how that happened.''
Churchill started listing his various ''Indian'' credentials on resumes as he moved into academe. He also moved into American Indian Movement circles, but most of the activists did not accept him as an Indian or as an activist.
AIM founders and leaders Dennis J. Banks and Clyde H. Bellecourt, both Ojibwa, state that ''Churchill has fraudulently represented himself as an Indian, and a member of [AIM], a situation that has lifted him into the position of a lecturer on Indian activism. He has used [Denver AIM] to attack the leadership of the official [AIM] with his misinformation and propaganda campaigns.''
Churchill took up ghostwriting for Oglala actor/activist Russell Means. Together with a small following, they protest the annual Columbus parade in Denver.
As Churchill has lurched through Indian identities, he has not found a single Native relative or ancestor. He is descended from a long line of Churchills that Hank Adams has traced back to the Revolutionary War and Europe. Adams, who is Assiniboine-Sioux and a member of the Frank's Landing Indian Community, has successfully researched and exposed other pseudo-Indians.
Adams traced Churchill's ancestors on both sides of his family, finding all white people, including documented slave owners and at least one spy, but zero Indians.
The United Keetoowah Band has disassociated itself from Churchill, so he will have to stop flashing that ''associate member'' card that has enabled him to bully his way around campuses and newsrooms.
The reason it's important for Native nations to speak out about Native identity issues is that they are the only ones who can say who their citizens are and are not. If they don't speak out, other people and entities will fill the silence.
It's important for Native mothers and fathers to speak out because pseudo-Indians do things that affect our children.
Churchill will not be discriminated against on the basis of being Indian, but he is placing our children and grandchildren in harm's way by creating ill will and hostility against Indians. Native kids and elders who actually look Native are the ones who suffer from the blowback.
It's important for Native people to speak out in order to counter the sort of thing that Churchill, even after being so very publicly unmasked, is now telling reporters: that he is Indian by virtue of community acceptance over a prolonged period. While some people in Colorado believe one or another of his stories, no Native nation and no Indian community of interest accepts him as one of their own.
Native artists never knew nor embraced him, either as an artist or as a Native person.
Churchill once worked for news outlets, but has not been accepted as a Native journalist, particularly by those he's viciously attacked after they reported what they found: that he could not substantiate his Indian claims.
(This note is for any reporters and editors who are confused: Churchill is the Stephen Glass, Jayson Blair and Jack Kelley of American Indian studies, but without their talent. Churchill simply makes it up, too, plus he invents Indian credentials. Keep in mind that no one accused their papers of violating free speech when they fired frauds for cause.)
Colorado and all universities should respect Native nations at least as much as they respect schools and other employers, but they don't. They frown on people who falsify their written material and wrongly claim degrees they did not earn and jobs they did not hold. But when people falsely claim to be Native, it is seen by some as less serious, less offensive and something anyone besides the Indians ought to decide.
Churchill got jobs, promotions, tenure and the Ethnic Studies chair at the University of Colorado because he portrayed himself as American Indian.
Now he's wrapped himself in the First Amendment, carefully draped over his Indian blanket. He's threatening to sue if he's fired for breach of contract or for the shameful things he said about the 9/11 victims.
The university should fire him because he has perpetrated a fraud, and moral turpitude is a deal breaker. The university shielded him from those who tried to reveal the truth and looked the other way as he attacked a lot of decent Native people.
If he sues, he will have to come into court as the American Indian man he has claimed to be, and how is he going to do that? It is time for the university to end this charade.
Suzan Shown Harjo, Cheyenne and Hodulgee Muscogee, is president of the Morning Star Institute in Washington, D.C. and a columnist for Indian Country Today. |
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