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Rdtf
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 Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject: Dan Rather just reported marine will NOT be charged |
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Dan Rather (this channel was honestly on my TV by accident  ) just reported that the Marine will not be charged in the incident a few months back where they went into the Iraqi insurgent's hideout and shot the unarmed Iraqi on film. Us Military stated lack of evidence to file any charges..
Update: I found it on CBSnews.com (nowhere else yet)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/23/eveningnews/main676101.shtml
| Quote: | Justified Shooting?
Feb. 23, 2005
(CBS) It was a striking -- some said chilling -- moment in the battle for Iraq, captured on videotape: a wounded, un-armed Iraqi, shot to death by a U.S. Marine.
CBS News has learned that military investigators conclude there is not enough evidence to formally charge that Marine.
As CBS News Correspondent Kimberly Dozier reports, it happened during the bloody fight for Fallujah last fall. The Marines were engaged in bitter house-to-house combat with dug-in enemy fighters.
When Marines ran into a mosque seeking the source of insurgent fire, they found several Iraqis wrapped in blankets.
One Marine thought he saw one of them move.
Marine: "He's F***ing faking he's dead."
Second Marine: "And he's breathing."
Marine: "He's faking he's f***ing dead!"
Navy investigators have concluded what happened next may have been justified in the heat of battle.
In a moment too graphic to show, one of the Americans fired.
"He's dead now."
The insurgents, it turned out, were unarmed -- but investigators say the Iraqi the Marine thought he saw moving could have been going for a weapon. At the very least, Navy legal experts believe the situation is ambiguous enough that no prosecutor could get a conviction.
The original video added to popular anger over the Fallujah crackdown. Many Iraqis felt Fallujah's unarmed civilians bore the brunt of the U.S. campaign.
Hundreds of homes were destroyed in the battle, and months later, much of the city is still without power or water. Many Fallujans live in makeshift refugee camps far from their homes.
When news breaks that the Marine will not be prosecuted, it will not go over well here.
It's now up to Marine commanders to decide what, if any internal action to take against the Marine. And investigators are still conducting ballistics tests to determine how the other insurgents in the mosque were killed.
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oasis
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Hello,
I'm glad to hear this..
My comments posted on this story are located
HERE
Justified Shooting?
| Quote: | When news breaks that the Marine will not be prosecuted, it will not go over well here.
It's now up to Marine commanders to decide what, if any internal action to take against the Marine. And investigators are still conducting ballistics tests to determine how the other insurgents in the mosque were killed. |
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GenrXr
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:56 am Post subject: |
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Great news.
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GM Strong
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:06 am Post subject: |
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great news. Now we have one Good Marine Lt. to get cleared of the ridiculous charges he has been brought up on.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Thank God. I do hope his commanding officer(s) use their good judgement and not punish this Marine in any way. He has suffered enough for doing something that most anyone put in that position would do.
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coldwarvet
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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This is great news. Perhaps we are turning the corner from form acting out of an ill logical PC perspective to a common sense mentality.
Is their another source besides CBS and Rather to support this ruling? 
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Tom Poole
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Now that he's been cleared, the Marine Corps should pin a large medal on him just to restore any potentially lost self-confidence. BTW, anyone else find it ironic that Dan-the-Marine broke this story?
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coldwarvet
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Tom Poole wrote: | | anyone else find it ironic that Dan-the-Marine broke this story? |
Hi Tom, Didn't you notice my comment?
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Tom Poole
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Oops! In my haste this a.m., I missed it. I've been busy and haven't kept up so I read the article and jumped to reply. A thousand pardons. 
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Rdtf
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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I just posted this in another thread because of the terrorist/Syrian subject, but note the last paragraph
http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18514
http://insider.washingtontimes.com/articles/normal.php?StoryID=20050224-122354-9877r
| Quote: | Separately, CBS News reported last night that investigators have decided not to charge a U.S. Marine who was filmed killing a wounded Iraqi during the November assault on Fallujah, citing a lack of evidence.
But a Marine spokesman last night said the case "is still very much open."
The shooting occurred during a search of a mosque and was condemned by human rights groups, but investigators said the Marines thought the wounded Iraqi might have been reaching for a weapon. |
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