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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:21 am    Post subject: P*ss me offed! Reply with quote

Read this and say they are a uniting force.

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0503/13/C01-115531.htm

Marines driven out of UAW lot

The union says Marines in foreign cars, displaying Bush stickers unwelcome.

By Eric Mayne / The Detroit News

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DETROIT -- The United Auto Workers says Marine reservists should show a little more semper fi if they want to use the union's parking lot.

The Marine Corps motto means "always faithful," but the union says some reservists working out of a base on Jefferson Avenue in Detroit have been decidedly unfaithful to their fellow Americans by driving import cars and trucks.

So the UAW International will no longer allow members of the 1st Battalion 24th Marines to park at Solidarity House if they are driving foreign cars or displaying pro-President Bush bumper stickers

"While reservists certainly have the right to drive nonunion made vehicles and display bumper stickers touting the most anti-worker, anti-union president since the 1920s, that doesn't mean they have the right to park in a lot owned by the members of the UAW," the union said in a statement released Friday.

Shocked and disappointed, the Marines are pulling out.

"You either support the Marines or you don't," said Lt. Col. Joe Rutledge, commanding officer of the battalion's active duty instructors. "I'm telling my Marines that they're no longer parking there."

At a time when U.S. armed forces are fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan, quibbling over parking privileges is "silly," Rutledge said.

The UAW has a long history of barring foreign-made cars from its parking lots. The subject is touchier than ever as Detroit's Big Three loses market share, driving down union membership.

The pro-Bush bumper stickers are another sore spot after last year's election.

UAW President Ron Gettelfinger opposed President Bush, accusing him of ignoring calls for labor law reform and failing to combat unfair business practices in China -- a growing threat to U.S. manufacturers.

The dispute arises as the UAW, using laid-off workers for labor, is building a $300,000 home for the Veterans of Foreign Wars. The home in Eaton Rapids will operate a residential program for children of veterans who don't have parents, or whose parents can't care for them.

"We do not think it is unreasonable to expect our guests to practice the simple principle of not insulting their host," the UAW statement said.

Rutledge is unmoved.

"I don't see it as a snub against them," he said, adding no conditions were set when the union first began allowing the Marines to park in the lot several years ago. "We're appreciative of what they've done, but you don't come into my office and say, 'OK, we're not going to support some of your Marines.' I don't know what a foreign car is today anyway. BMWs are made in South Carolina now."

You can reach Eric Mayne at (313) 222-2443 or emayne@detnews.com.

Next time you see a UAW sticker, remember.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just shows one where the UAW's interests lay.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The marines have the respect of the general public. I can't sat the same for the UAW these days. How do they deal with the "imports" built by UAW workers? This is one of the reasons union membership is declining. As the leadership becomes increasingly leftist if not socialist, they become further marginalized.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, the UAW shows it's height of hypocrisy.

If they are truly worried about Americans loosing jobs in the Auto industry, why aren't they boycotting Ford, General Motors and "DAIMLER" Chrysler? After all, upwards of 80% of the parts in many of our "DOMESTIC" vehicles are manufactured in Mexico, Canada, Germany, Japan and elsewhere.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krushchev's memoirs recall meeting the silk suited Walter Reuther; thought he was a crook. 19$ an hour for a Journey Machinist who's sole competence (when he's in the mood and not too stoned) is mounting 5 bolts in the chassis of a Suburban passing overhead, strikes every other year for the vacation and wants more money gauged to his boat payments and the cost of beer and Bennies.....UAW wrecked the US auto industry in the '70s and allowed Japan to gain ascendancy in the '80s.

The Lordsburg strikes (the Vega plant in Ohio) triggered industrywide sabotage and protests in lock step with the Anti-War movement. The problem? After shakedown the plant was to be largely automated. GM backed-down to put more men on the line. Sabotage had a long history in the auto industry going back to the First War when most of Detroit was immigrants from the land of the Kaiser and the Emperor.

Stop the line!!! There's a pipe leaking overhere...get the plumber. The plumber says no! That's the cooling line for a transformer; get the electrician. The electrician says no! That transformer runs an assembly line; get the facilities manager and so on. God forbid some ******* with knowhow and no union status just wants to make cars and takes a wrench to it; STRIKE!

Bad management didn't help. But management preoccupied with recalcitrant labor instead of product and competition was a disaster.

My non-union Honda was built in Ohio f**k you very much. I loved my Corvairs (95, Greenbriar, Corsa; screw you Nader), enjoyed my E100 halfa$$, went anywhere with my Kaiser Wagoneer (German electrical and starter with Chrysler motor, Chevy tranny and AMC's miserable cooling), near killed myself having too-much-fun in a high compression, 351c packing Cougar (loosen and jack the motor to change plugs), can't hardly beat the ride of a Lincoln, wished my Bronco Sport came with a tank bigger than 10 gallons, but this Honda Element makes 'em all problematic could have-beens. Can't find a Studebaker or Checker? blame it on the UAW.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a Honda CR-V after many US made cars. Now THAT sucker
has road manners.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After the fake radio spots they were running before the election I made the decision at that time to buy no more vehicles from the big 3, not I am glad I did. The UAW has made American cars what they are today - overpriced and under quality. I just saw on the news this morning that the number one SUV in safety is the Hundai Santa Fe, its bad when korea beats detroit.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are proletariat communists plain and simple. What is sad is how many Union members have no clue that their Union has forsaken them for the religious cult of communism. They are lemmings unfortunately.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Bronx cheer for UAW. To help our nation, I bought nothing but Ford and GM products for more than 40 years. No sane American would use the term "One Hoss Shay" on any of their products. The last two not only did not last 100 years, they literally fell to pieces in less than two. Ten years ago, I discovered a Kentucky product called Toyota and never looked back. Seems like the UAW just shot itself in the foot again. Maybe we ought to "tell it to the Marines." Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Poole wrote:
A Bronx cheer for UAW. To help our nation, I bought nothing but Ford and GM products for more than 40 years. No sane American would use the term "One Hoss Shay" on any of their products. The last two not only did not last 100 years, they literally fell to pieces in less than two. Ten years ago, I discovered a Kentucky product called Toyota and never looked back. Seems like the UAW just shot itself in the foot again. Maybe we ought to "tell it to the Marines." Very Happy




Indictment to Detroit corporate bureaucracy:

Georgetown,Kentucky(Toyota) uses american labor,essentially the same subassemblies(adj for patents)and provides better quality than our local auto manufacturing facilities. Go figure
Part and parcel of this inequity lays at the doorstep of Detroit executive and centralized management.
We all love 10 cent an hour chinese labor producing products for our local wallmart.
Hmmmmmmmmmm,I wonder if we could get some CHEAP auto exec's from China,Mexico,Japan afterall I understand that by worldwide stds American exec's make 32 times worldwide stds and 16 times Japanese exec salaries--identical industries.
What about gov't bureaucrats,celebs,etc; hell there's not end to the savings,we could even trade in that TUR_ Kerry for a 10 cent an hour Asian. Probably do a better and more honest job toboot. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


NO EXCUSE for ostracizing the military UAW. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: P*ss me offed! Reply with quote

mtboone wrote:
Read this and say they are a uniting force.

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0503/13/C01-115531.htm

Marines driven out of UAW lot

The union says Marines in foreign cars, displaying Bush stickers unwelcome.

By Eric Mayne / The Detroit News




I believe the foreign car thing is just an excuse. Their real problem is the Bush stickers. They had to come up with a reason that kinda made sense to cover up their PO'd political attitude.

The foreign car thing resonates with the public until you realize how blurred the lines are.

Wanna Honda Accord built in the USA. All of them sold here are built here. They have even been exported to Japan.

The UAW is really torqued because they have been unable to unionize Honda and Toyota plants located in the U.S.

So they take it out on the Marines. There's no way they can look good doing it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the unionized American auto worker approach his or her job with the same spirit, dedication, and work ethic of a U.S. Marine, the only non-U.S. cars in this country would be those driven by foreign diplomats.

Remember the rule? Don't buy a car built on the day after a holiday because so many workers are no shows that unreliable replacement workers are used?

Thank God for the Marine Corp -- they serve when called.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LewWaters wrote:
Once again, the UAW shows it's height of hypocrisy.

If they are truly worried about Americans loosing jobs in the Auto industry, why aren't they boycotting Ford, General Motors and "DAIMLER" Chrysler? After all, upwards of 80% of the parts in many of our "DOMESTIC" vehicles are manufactured in Mexico, Canada, Germany, Japan and elsewhere.


Sadly much of this also is about money. It is cheaper overseas to pay foriegn workers than to pay workers here that would demand more money. It is truly sad.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and the UAW backs down......

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/4284497/detail.html

UAW Now Says Marines Can Park In Lot
Foreign Cars, Bush Bumper Stickers Previously Not Welcome
POSTED: 7:01 pm EST March 14, 2005

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Complete Statement From UAW
Here is the statement that Local 4 received Monday by UAW President Gettelfinger on Marine Reservists parking at UAW headquarters.

"I have reconsidered and reversed my decision not to allow Marine reservists to park non-union made vehicles or vehicles displaying Bush stickers at Solidarity House on weekends.

"Some people may have thought my orginal decision reflected a lack of support for the Marine Corps and the service of Marine reservists.

"That certainly was not my intention. Having served in the Marine Corps Reserves myself, I fully appreciate the sacrifices and contributions made by America's reservists, National Guard members and active duty military personnel and their families.

"That said, I made the wrong call on the parking issue, and I have notified the Marine Corps that all reservists are welcome to park at Solidarity House as they have for the past 10 years.

"I regret that the controversy over this decision has overshadowed the many good things the UAW and our members are doing to support and express our appreciation to America's service men and women and veterans."

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet if you were to go to Ron Gettelfinger's home you would find
a nice Mitsubishi television, Panasonic microwave, Sanyo stereo system,
Toshiba VCR, Sony camcorder, Seiko watch, NEC computer monitor,
Bosch drill, Makita chainsaw, but a Cadillac in his driveway.
And all his shirts and sweaters are made in China, Indonesia.
If he only were to practice what he preaches.
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