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sdmoel
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 Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: Jane Fonda Regrets 1972 Visit to Vietnam Gun Site |
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I bet she does!!!
Jane Fonda Regrets 1972 Visit to Vietnam Gun Site
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050331/en_nm/people_fonda_dc
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Jane Fonda regrets her visit to a North Vietnamese gun site in 1972, the actress and fitness guru said in an interview with CBS television show "60 Minutes" to be aired on Sunday.
The actress defended her trip to Vietnam in 1972, which won her the nickname "Hanoi Jane." But she said her visit to a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun site used to shoot down U.S. pilots was a "betrayal" of the U.S. military.
"The image of Jane Fonda, Barbarella, Henry Fonda's daughter ... sitting on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal," she said, calling the act, "The largest lapse of judgment that I can even imagine."
But she said she did not regret visiting Hanoi, or being photographed with American prisoners of war there.
"There are hundreds of American delegations that had met with the POWs," she said. "Both sides were using the POWs for propaganda. ... It's not something that I will apologize for."
Three decades on, Vietnam continues to be a divisive issue for Americans. During last year's election campaign, some Republican supporters of President Bush called his Democratic rival, Sen. John Kerry, "Hanoi John" for protesting the Vietnam War after fighting in it and receiving five medals for combat duty. |
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Leeman
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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She is still a traitor, Plain & simple.
Just trying to sell her book, & my my..... guess who is gonna help her, CBS 60 minutes..!!!!!
I'd never watch her on TV nor do I view any of her movies, in my opinon she should have been tried as a traitor.
who wants to listen to her crap about threesomes..I'll pass
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Wonder what she's selling this time that brings on this partial show of contrition?
And why does it ring so hollow to my ears? Could it be that this is a "non-confession" couched in conciliatory terms? 
Words, Hanoi Jane. They mean something.
Your "regret," however? That does not.
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Sergei
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Well one down and one more to go. Do you think the junior senator from Mass. will be next to proclaim his regret(s)? |
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gmez2001
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Navy_Navy_Navy wrote: | Wonder what she's selling this time that brings on this partial show of contrition?
And why does it ring so hollow to my ears? Could it be that this is a "non-confession" couched in conciliatory terms?
Words, Hanoi Jane. They mean something.
Your "regret," however? That does not. |
'contrition'
Cancer,back problems,low video sales,recognizing her finitude and mortality,Ted Turner doesn't love me anymore.........
don't know,don't care. 
For me, she's got a huge amount of amends to make for her conduct during and after VN.
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Rdtf
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Sergei wrote: | | Well one down and one more to go. Do you think the junior senator from Mass. will be next to proclaim his regret(s)? |
No never - unless he becomes a bonafide has-been like Ms. Fonda and needs to sell a book  |
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tony54
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Apology not accepted, go f**k yourself you traitor!
You should have been hung in public square.
Pardon my vulgarity, but I lost a couple good friends because of her and Lurch. |
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LewWaters
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As the bumper sticker on the back of my truck says;
I'LL FORGIVE JANE FONDA
WHEN THE JEWS FORGIVE HITLER
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| tony54 wrote: | Apology not accepted, go f**k yourself you traitor!
You should have been hung in public square.
Pardon my vulgarity, but I lost a couple good friends because of her and Lurch. |
Hopefully she'll be greeted by just that type of sentiment at her first book-promo public event. |
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DLI78
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| Quote: | | Do you think the junior senator from Mass. will be next to proclaim his regret(s)? |
RDTF,
I think I'd bet on it. It's in keeping with his other "firm stands" on the issues. Then he could explain it away as "I actually was in favor of betraying the country before I was against it."
In his pathetic mind that would answer the criticism of the Swift Vets and their supporters.
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zinfella
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May Hanoi Jane rot in hell.
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rbshirley
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| zinfella wrote: | | May Hanoi Jane rot in hell. |
One of the heros of Operation Streetcorner, Pete Webster, had this to say about that:
| Pete Webster wrote: |
The morning news had a teaser about this, and the Drudge Report
carried the story today, of the interview Jane Fonda gave to host
journalist, Leslie Stahl, which will appear on 60 minutes later this
weekend. She admitted she betrayed the country when she posed
on the anti-air craft gun in Hanoi and said it was a tremendous "lapse
of judgement" on her part, but still refused to apologize for her anti-war
speeches that she gave on Hanoi radio and her exploitation of the POWs.
The article went on to report:
She wouldn't make similar broadcasts in Iraq today, however, saying,
"I don't think it's the same situation at all. When I went to {Hanoi} ...
we had been fighting in Vietnam for eight years. The majority of all
Americans {and} Congress opposed the war. It was a desperate time."
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With this opinion, I take great umbrage. Why does the length of time
we had been fighting excuse the betrayal? Would she have stayed
home and supported the troops if we had only been fighting for three
years? Had she ever made a USO tour, or a benefit for the troops, in
any of those preceding years? Bah! Humbug! Does the unpopularity
of the war make betrayal acceptable? Is any war ever "popular? Don't
you think some folks, in 1943, felt WWII, "Mr Roosevelt's war." was
unpopular? Let's examine why the war in Viet Nam was so unpopular.
Wasn't it unpopular due to the unrelenting attack by the left that she
represented and due to the spin by the liberal bias in the press? In
some studies, authors have claimed the left has opposed any war
against communism, because many of those, especially in Hollywood,
have roots in the communist movement. We, more than anyone else,
know how the media and Hollywood can create a false consciousness
out of the political activism of a few radicals like Fonda. She said the
government lied to us, but wasn't that the spin the liberal press put
on it? We have just watched the media attempt to do the same thing
with the war in Iraq, but thanks to the Inet, they have been thwarted
by the people at large and not able to create a false consciousness
about the war as they did with Viet Nam.
If we had operated an Internet in the USA in 1965, no radical leftist
professors on any campus could have sold the concept the war as
a civil war, unjust, or immoral, because folks could have gone to a
search engine like Google or Ask Jeeves and found out that Viet Nam
had never been a unified country that was torn with internal strife, but
had always been, for thousands of years, three separate countries,
Cochin, Annan, and Tonkin, with three separate capitols, Saigon, Hue
and Hanoi, and three separate cultures and legal systems, totally
independent. They could have easily found out that the north was
the outside aggressor and that we had treaty obligations to defend
a member state like the south, the same way that Australia, Thailand
and Korea did. Nothing immoral about that, nor unjust. If we had an
Internet and armies of bloggers, the WW II vets might have rallied,
like the Swift Vets did, and come to our aid when the radical professors
began telling their students to spit on us. Who knows? All I am saying
is that our assistance to help Iraq is no different in substance than our
aid was to South Viet Nam. Both were altruistic and noble efforts to help
a people overcome the grip of tyranny and enjoy a greater degree of
freedom than offered by a brutal, totalitarian regime like Ho Chi Minh's
or Sadaam's and we should stop letting the left, a la Jane Fonda, try to
excuse their wrong behavior, by disguising betrayal in the cloak of a
distinction without a difference. Wrong then; wrong now.
Pete Webster,
LT USN, Diving Officer
USS Tutuila ARG 4
An Thoi, Nha Be, Rung Sat Special Zone
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zinfella
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I get so PO'd over Hanoi Jane that there's no way for me to be as eloquent as that author. My anger get's the best of me.
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gmez2001
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:30 pm Post subject: Fonda |
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Now this isn't the kind of writing one expects from the above(Pete Webster), but for me,Hanoi Jane can be relegated to the 'TUR_ pile of LIFE' along with Kerry and another 5 million anti-war,anti-US,anti-military,propagandized media lefties we have living in the country.
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Rdtf
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| Lotsa_Static wrote: | | Quote: | | Do you think the junior senator from Mass. will be next to proclaim his regret(s)? |
RDTF,
I think I'd bet on it. It's in keeping with his other "firm stands" on the issues. Then he could explain it away as "I actually was in favor of betraying the country before I was against it."
In his pathetic mind that would answer the criticism of the Swift Vets and their supporters. |
All I know is the creep couldn't even apologize in order to win the election. |
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