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Essayons · Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject:

Harvuskong,

I know that I had posted that I would not continue to post in this thread but your above post brought something new to light regarding the Kerry document redaction.

First let me address the 8 numbers you refer to. My best read is “?1??0800” with the possibility of “?1250800.” If the Navy used the same convention as the Army for service numbers, then the first character should be an “O” but it does not look to be “O.” By 1978 the Navy should have been using SSNs, including hyphens, as the Army did on my discharge in 1972.

The redaction is what caught my eye (I was viewing the document at 500% magnification) since the redaction appeared to scale too perfectly. It was scaling like a vector graphic (no loss/distortion of its edges) created in Adobe Illustrator. Hmmm. I then put a grid over the document and ran the magnification to 1,600%. The redaction edges were still perfect (razor sharp and perfectly straight) AND they were PERFECTLY aligned with the grid.

The document itself is slightly rotated clockwise, which I already knew about, and the boiler-plate text does not line up exactly with the grid – close but not perfect.

My current conclusion: There is no doubt that the Kerry discharge document, in part, was manipulated using Adobe Illustrator in conjunction with Adobe Photoshop.

Why? I do not know but it sure would have been easier, assuming the document is the original Navy document, to scan and print it and redact the one item with a Sharpie and scan it again for posting – done.

Regards,
Dick
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Essayons · Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject:

Update:

I may be able to replicate the above referenced redaction in Photoshop and therefore not need to use Illustrator. Should know by tomorrow.

Should anyone need to view/manipulate the Kerry document that I use, it can be found at: http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/hondisres.pdf

Regards,
Dick
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DADESID · Seaman Joined: 07 Jul 2004 Posts: 157

I think the numbers above the date are file numbers and Standard Subject Identification Codes (SSIC) which fit correspondence into a standard Directive category, for filing purposes.

I do not believe they have any connection to any individual, but rather to a subject. Why they would be redacted is a mystery to me... unless they might refer to a governing subject which could raise questions.

I don't know for sure. Any YNs or PNs out there?

3rd gen Navy · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject:

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Harvuskong · Seaman Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

Well, I have found another source for fonts. It is the following below:

http://www.creamundo.com/index.php?lang=en

Part of the research on the Discharge Papers centered on Fonts in the attempts to duplicate it with the various programs mentioned in the earlier posts.