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Armybrat/Armymom Commander
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject: Tony Parsons-Unwed mothers-UK style |
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I don't know if this is a topic for this forum but I found it quite interesting and does it sound like right here where we live? Who can we blame for this here in the USA? Politicians (Dems or Reps), Schools, Parents?????
WE MUST NOT PAY TEENS TO BE MUMS
Author: Tony Parsons Mirror.co.uk
30 May 2005
SOME good news from the baby factory - Britain's most famous single mums are going to take responsibility for their children.
"We don't need their dads," says Jade, the middle sister (she's 14). "We give them all the love and support they need."
Great! So can we have our £31,000 a year back?
Er, afraid not. Because when Jade and her sisters Jemma (12) and Natasha (16 when she dropped, 18 now) say they are happy to bring up their children unaided, that does not include other people's money.
Bringing up baby might mean doing without some spotty little herbert who slipped off in the night but it doesn't mean doing without their great big beautiful raft of state benefits - child benefit, family allowance, income support, family tax credits, childcare allowance and on and on...
Who needs the pin money from daddy's paper round when the endlessly generous taxpayer is prepared to foot the bill?
What's truly mind-blowing about the Williams sisters and their bouncing babies T-Jay, Amani and Lita, is that they look so pleased with themselves.
In the not-so-distant past, even a whiff of sexual scandal would mortify the average working-class family. A teenage pregnancy, a vanished father and - how quaint the phrase sounds now - the gymslip mum.
How the net curtains would twitch, how the neighbours would gossip and crow.
Nobody is dying of shame in the baby factory - and that's a good thing. No single parent should ever have to die of shame. But that's the only good thing about the baby factory.
The Williams sisters have bred like barnyard animals and now they expect Farmer Giles, in the shape of the good old taxpayer, to support them. And why not? Everything in their wretched lives has encouraged them to think that way.
I doubt if Jemma, Jade and Natasha would be raking in £31,000 a year if they had worked hard at school, done their homework and kept their thongs on when they were grappling on the sofa with their little herberts.
For the sink estate single mums, having a baby doesn't wreck your life. It's practically a career move.
So what's to be done? Or is nothing to be done? Should we just accept that there are those of us who work for a living and countless strangers - and their brats - who we will always have to support?
And who's to blame? The baby factory's dear old mum blames the schools for a lack of sex education. But her eldest daughter Natasha had two miscarriages and an abortion before she had her baby at the ripe old age of 16 (sometimes it's good to wait).
The evidence suggests that the Williams sisters could give sex education lessons to Peter Stringfellow.
Some say that it's not more sex lessons these girls need but less. In America, there is a vogue for militant virginity among some young people but that is largely inspired by the huge Christian community in the States. It could never happen here.
America is a deeply religious country - Britain is not. America has the Almighty - we have Big Brother.
So don't hold your breath for an outbreak of chastity vows on our sink estates. They will continue to make their own entertainment. Some blame the government, currently blowing £40million a year to stem the tide of pubescent mumhood.
Ms Beverly Hughes, Tony Blair's "Minister for Children", is mocked for saying that the government can do no more than it is already doing. And Ms Hughes may be a useless party hack, with a ridiculous title, but she is right.
How can politicians reasonably be expected to encourage sink estate slappers to keep their legs together? Especially when, in the case of the Williams girls, their own mother lets her 11-year-old daughter - 11 years old! - spend the night sharing her bedroom with her teenage boyfriend.
Sex under the age of 16 is still technically illegal, of course, so we could crack down on the men and boys who have pulled the XXL pants off the baby factory sisters and their kind.
But in our sex-saturated society, the police and social services are reluctant to look like prudes.
In reality, the age of consent has been abolished.
It feels like nothing can be done. This is the world we have built and we are stuck with it.
IN the future, girls who have yet to reach their teens will drop a baby and then wait for the benefits to come rolling in.
As that hellishly young mum pushes little T-shirt or Armani or Crazy Frog down the road, if one net curtain twitches on the street where she lives, it will be because of envy.
The one and only way to stem the tide would be to tame the welfare state.
Built to help the poor, the vulnerable and the disadvantaged, the welfare state now exists to be milked by the lazy, the feckless and girls with no drawers.
The welfare state has been made to look like a mug and its corruption is a national tragedy, and the root of all our ills.
You want to stop the baby factory? Then stop paying their way. Cut off their benefits. Give that £31,000 a year to someone who deserves it.
But where is the politician with the guts to do that?
The middle-class get degrees. The working-class get jobs. And the underclass get a baby as soon as they can. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | "We don't need their dads," says Jade, the middle sister (she's 14). |
They needed them at least once
Seriously, this is outrageous, even for Britain. We aren't much further behind, though. In the quest to make ever child "wanted," we foot the bill more and more for little girls barely out of dolls to have their real babies and too often, the babies go neglected while Mom still tries to be a teen.
Easy answers? None. Some will say abortion is a good answer, I say it isn't. To me, the answer lies in teaching young people that sex isn't all fun and glory, especially at 12 and 13. Maybe a little shame should be restored on youths who engage in early sex and become pregnant.
One thing for sure, whoever the Dads are, they shouldn't be allowed to just walk away. One way or the other, they should be at least helping pay for these children, even if they are children themselves. No one is guaranteed a free ride and personally, I tire of paying for those that believe they are.
No easy answers, but as long as we keep encouraging our daughters to engage in sex at a tender age, we can expect this to keep spiraling out of control. And yes, we keep footing the bill. _________________ Clark County Conservative |
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This is truly so sad. I agree that our country is not far behind. What kind of morality is being taught in the home, and even when morality is taught it is underminded by our media, our movies, and the sub-culture of sex and live for the moment.
There are no easy answers and there are no easy solutions. But I do make one distinction, we must give our full attentions and devotion to our childeren. Many of these young teens engage in this activity due to some sort of lack of attention or neglect in the home. I realize there is exceptions to the rule, there have always been un wed mothers and as young as thirteen or fourteen, things happen, but these days it is the trend.
We need to love our children, even when they do not love themselves. We need to love our children despite themselves. Most importantly we need to give our children a sense of self worth and value beyond what our culture dictates.
No easy answers and these are just my thoughts and sentiments, but I try to do this for my own children. God forbid that this trend continue on....we already have one generation that cares for nothing and knowone but the moment and the gratification they can derive from it. As parents have some of us been so self absorbed that we forgot that there is an extention of us, our child that deserved to be brought up with morals, but more importantly with love? |
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Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 335 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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LewWaters wrote: | Quote: | "We don't need their dads," says Jade, the middle sister (she's 14). |
They needed them at least once
Seriously, this is outrageous, even for Britain. We aren't much further behind, though. In the quest to make ever child "wanted," we foot the bill more and more for little girls barely out of dolls to have their real babies and too often, the babies go neglected while Mom still tries to be a teen.
Easy answers? None. Some will say abortion is a good answer, I say it isn't. To me, the answer lies in teaching young people that sex isn't all fun and glory, especially at 12 and 13. Maybe a little shame should be restored on youths who engage in early sex and become pregnant.
One thing for sure, whoever the Dads are, they shouldn't be allowed to just walk away. One way or the other, they should be at least helping pay for these children, even if they are children themselves. No one is guaranteed a free ride and personally, I tire of paying for those that believe they are.
No easy answers, but as long as we keep encouraging our daughters to engage in sex at a tender age, we can expect this to keep spiraling out of control. And yes, we keep footing the bill. |
I agree. And last evening on the news I saw where condoms are going to be advertised "tastefully" on the boob tube. Now we're really in trouble.
Love isn't everything. I know of 5 teenage girls in my sphere of acquaintances who are pregnant or have just had babies. Love is abundant in all these homes and the families have taught and exhibited good morals. My 18 year old granddaughter being one of them. It is heartbreaking for our whole family. Her reply to "why" was "I can do whatever I want. I'm an adult now and I wanted a baby." Yeah right. And who is she turning to for help? Not the loser 20 year old boyfriend with two other children who won't even change a diaper. "But he's so cute". |
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