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Communism alive and well in the Supreme Court

 
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Ohio Voter
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:44 pm    Post subject: Communism alive and well in the Supreme Court Reply with quote

Yes I said Communism. This is what the political left has brought to us. If the recent Supreme Court decision to allow private enterprise to take private property for the "public good" is not blatant Communism, then what is it?

Democrats that continue to support the leftists in politics should take a hard look at what they are voting for. It isn't union rights, civil rights, animal rights. It is now their American right to keep and own property. Now even their property is not safe.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.nysun.com/article/15999

Eminent Danger

New York Sun Editorial
June 24, 2005

~snip~
"The irony, as in so many instances, is that it's the so-called liberals who are siding with the rich and powerful, and the so-called conservatives who are defending the poor and the downtrodden. "The specter of condemnation hangs over all property. Nothing is to prevent the State from replacing any Motel 6 with a Ritz-Carlton, any home with a shopping mall, or any farm with a factory," Justice O'Connor writes in her stinging dissent issued yesterday."

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can almost hear the wheels turning in the minds of every city council across this nation, thinking "Ah ha, now we can get that stubborn old coot out of his house so we can proceed with our plans to expand...[insert project name].

There seems to now be no exception to hold someone from taking what they want if they have the money and influence to do it.

If someone's sights are set on your property or mine, we have no recourse. Government can get it and private enterprise can get it for some broad interpretation of the "public good".

Tanya wrote:
http://www.nysun.com/article/15999

Eminent Danger

New York Sun Editorial
June 24, 2005

~snip~
"The irony, as in so many instances, is that it's the so-called liberals who are siding with the rich and powerful, and the so-called conservatives who are defending the poor and the downtrodden. "The specter of condemnation hangs over all property. Nothing is to prevent the State from replacing any Motel 6 with a Ritz-Carlton, any home with a shopping mall, or any farm with a factory," Justice O'Connor writes in her stinging dissent issued yesterday."

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this doesn't wake citizens up to the onslaught of the Union of Socialist States of America, I don't know what will. Even the looney left is upset over this decision.

Now, will they stand firm against their very ideals that brought this on? I doubt it. Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lew, what do you mean stand firm on their very ideals?
We all know that they are mindless sheep. If they weren't they wouldn't be Liberals.
They will go with whatever flow the high muck-e-mucks of the party tell them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Communism alive and well in the Supreme Court Reply with quote

Ohio Voter wrote:
Yes I said Communism. This is what the political left has brought to us. If the recent Supreme Court decision to allow private enterprise to take private property for the "public good" is not blatant Communism, then what is it?


Actually, it's closer to National Socialism (Naziism). Under Communism, the government actually owns the property. Under Naziism, the government doesn't actually own the property, but merely "controls" it for whatever purpose the government thinks best.

Kind of a distinction without a difference, to be sure, but when it comes down to the principles of individual freedom as our founders envisioned, either is anathematic.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone asked how that decision can be called Communism because it is capitalistic to allow big business to take over the little guys property.

We tend to forget there is a whole generation that has no idea what Communism is since it has been politically incorrect to use the word communist in describing a persons political ideology.

It seems to me the land grab is classic communism. Communal property is basic to the old communist order. It is property that is used for the "greater good" of the society.

LewWaters wrote:
If this doesn't wake citizens up to the onslaught of the Union of Socialist States of America, I don't know what will. Even the looney left is upset over this decision.

Now, will they stand firm against their very ideals that brought this on? I doubt it. Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember in college that the main difference between capitalism and communism was two words, private property.

While eminent domain has been around for years, this thing where the local governments are taking private property and turning it over to developers for remaking into another type of private property, to get more tax money, really bothers me. I wonder what will happen in California, with so many older folks living in homes under Prop 13, which is the only way to have really low property taxes. Worries me.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a farmer on a lovely river immediately outside of a quaint little town..... This totally freaks me out. A couple of things (among many) to consider.

I've put our land into 'conservation easement' disallowing any further building on what is environmentally sensitive land. This is supposed to guarantee a agriculturally minded tax evaluation for some time to come.

Well I'm thinking all that is totally moot. The only person who can't build on it is me. A nice big resort would do well here and surely pay more taxes.

Next.... how much do churches pay in real estate taxes in townships and cities? Could this be a assault on the existence of churches?

This is no small deal and I can't fathom how it got thru the courts.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uisguex Jack wrote:
As a farmer on a lovely river immediately outside of a quaint little town..... This totally freaks me out. A couple of things (among many) to consider.
......
This is no small deal and I can't fathom how it got thru the courts.


Jack,
I'm with you 100%...all good points. How it got thru the courts is that the judiciary has been opening the door on the definition of 'Public Use' (5th Amendment to the Constitution) wider and wider for years....the original definition in the 18th century was very narrow...ie public use like a railroad would allow 'condemnation' of property.....over the years our Liberal judges have widened the definition to allow (national socialism) gov't to allow Private party A to take Private party B's property....culminating in the abomination these 5 Judges opined.

I have 5 houses, which I would like to propose be the first 5 houses to be test cases for this new precedent....you can guess which 5 houses I'm thinking of....

if a public use is required, I could also make suggestions along those lines, but others have beat me to it! wish I could claim that Idea as my own, but heard it on the radio, don't cha know!!!!

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