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SBD
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: Anyone know what's in Nixon's Kerry File??

Anyone know what's in Nixon's Kerry File??

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FEDERAL REGISTER
Vol. 69, No. 65
Notices
NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION (NARA)

Nixon Presidential Historical Materials; Opening of Materials 69 FR 17715
DATE: Monday, April 5, 2004
ACTION: Notice of opening of materials [*17715]

SUMMARY: This notice announces the opening of additional files from the Nixon Presidential historical materials.
Notice is hereby given that, in accordance with section 104 of Title I of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act (PRMPA, 44 U.S.C. 2111 note) and section 1275.42(b) of the PRMPA Regulations implementing the Act (36 CFR Part 1275), the agency has identified, inventoried, and prepared for public access integral file segments
among the Nixon Presidential historical materials.

DATES: The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) intends to make the materials described in this notice available to the public beginning May 26, 2004. In accordance with 36 CFR 1275.44, any person who believes it necessary to file a claim of legal right or privilege concerning access to these materials should notify the Archivist of the
United States in writing of the claimed right, privilege, or defense before May 5, 2004.

69 FR 17715, *17716[*17716]

ADDRESSES: The materials will be made available to the public at the National Archives at College Park research room, located at 8601 Adelphi Road, College Park, Maryland beginning at 8:45. Researchers must have a NARA researcher card, which they may obtain when they arrive at the facility. Petitions asserting a legal or constitutional right or privilege which would prevent or limit access must be sent to the Archivist of the United States, National Archives at College Park, 8601 Adelphi Road, College Park, Maryland 20740--

6001.
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Karl Weissenbach, Director, Nixon Presidential Materials Staff, 301--837--3290.

SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: The integral file segments of textual materials to be opened on May 26, 2004, consist of 15 cubic feet. The White House Central Files Unit is a permanent organization within the White House complex that maintains a central filing and retrieval system for the records of the President and his staff. Some of the materials are from the White House Central Files, Subject Files. The Subject Files are based on an alphanumerical file scheme of 61 primary categories. Listed below are the integral file segments from the White House Central Files, Subject Files in this opening.

1. Subject Category: Volume: 3 cubic feet.
Federal Government (FG)
FG 158 National Advisory Council on Education of Disadvantaged Children
FG 159 National Advisory Council on Educational Professions Development
FG 160 National Advisory Council on Extension and Continuing Education
FG 161 National Advisory Council on International Monetary and Financial Policies
FG 162 National Advisory Council on Supplementary Centers and Services
FG 225 United Planning Organization
FG 226 United Service Organization
FG 227 United States Advisory Commission on Information
FG 228 United States Advisory Commission on International Educational and Cultural Affairs
FG 229 United States Civil Service Commission
Judicial Legal (JL) Pardon Files (1973)
National Defense (ND)
2. Transcripts of Telephone Conversations: 10 Cubic Feet.
Approximately 20,000 pages of transcripts of Dr. Henry A. Kissinger's telephone conversations created during his
tenure as Assistant to President Nixon's National Security Advisor and Security of State. These telephone transcripts
proposed for release are from January 21, 1969 through August 8, 1974.
3. White House Central Files, Name Files: Volume: 1 Cubic Feet.

Nine files are from the White House Central Files, Name Files. The Name Files were used for routine materials filed alphabetically by the name of the correspondent; copies of documents in the Name Files are usually filed by subject in the Subject Files.
The Name Files relating to the following 9 individuals will be made available with this opening. Ailes, Roger; Brooke, Edward W.; Emenegger, Robert; Felci, Thomas; Green, Edith; Kerry, John; Krusten, Eva and
Maarja; Zagorewicz, Thaddeus A.

4. Previously Restricted Materials Volume: 1 cubic foot A number of documents which were previously withheld from public access have been re--reviewed for release and or declassified under the provisions of Executive Order 12958, or in accordance with 36 CFR 1275.56 (Public Access Regulations).

Public access to some of the items in the file segments listed in this notice will be restricted as outlined in 36 CFR 1275.50 or 1275.52 (Public Access Regulations). Dated: March 30, 2004.
John W. Carlin,
Archivist of the United States.

SBD

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:01 pm Post subject:

Great find SBD! Were Kerry to have received a less than honorable, it seems likely that it would be noted SOMEWHERE in the Nixon Archives. Are you planning to access Kerry's "name file"?

It would also be interesting to learn just WHO was interested enough to make application for viewing after they were made available and did anyone attempt to squelch material based on this....

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In accordance with 36 CFR 1275.44, any person who believes it necessary to file a claim of legal right or privilege concerning access to these materials should notify the Archivist of the United States in writing of the claimed right, privilege, or defense before May 5, 2004.

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject:

Here is some info I came across.

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Nixon targeted Kerry for anti-war views
White House tapes reveal then-president’s attempt to discredit Kerry during 1971 war protests, Senate testimony

Nixon's counter-attack Colson was Nixon’s point man against Kerry, and he found a weapon in another veteran: John O’Neill. He was a spokesman for Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace, which backed Nixon administration policy in Vietnam, and in turn was supported by the White House.

The White House file John O’Neill, selected to debate John Kerry about the Vietman War, in the Oval Office with President Nixon and White House aide Charles Colson. Fresh out of the Navy like Kerry, O’Neill was angry at Kerry for saying U.S. servicemen in Vietnam routinely committed war crimes. The weekend before the Washington protests, Kerry made the accusations on NBC’s Meet the Press, saying, “I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed, in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones.” And, Kerry claimed, “I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All this is contrary to the laws of warfare.”

John O’Neill hit back at Kerry with administration-orchestrated press appearances of his own, including a news conference that June. O’Neill asked rhetorically, “Shall Mr. Kerry and his little group of one thousand or twelve thousand embittered men be allowed to represent their views as that of all veterans, because they can appear on every news program? I hope not, for the country’s sake.”

After the news conference, O’Neill met with Charles Colson at the White House, where the attack on Kerry was seen as a public relations coup. In a conversation with the president, Haldeman gave the credit to Charles Colson, and raved about John O’Neill:

Haldeman: -- crew cut, real sharp looking guy who is more articulate than Kerry. He’s not as eloquent; he isn’t the ham that Kerry is. But he’s more believable. edit?

Haldeman: This guy now, is gonna, he’s gonna move on Kerry.

“This is a government that cares more about the legality of where men sleep than the legality of where we drop bombs and why men die.”

— John Kerry, April, 1971 Anti-war rally, U.S. Capitol The White House encouraged O’Neill to challenge Kerry to a debate. Kerry agreed and before the event, President Nixon called O’Neill into the Oval Office for a pep talk. “It’s a great service to the country,” declared the president.

Nixon: Give it to him, give it to him. And you can do it, because you have a pleasant manner, too, because you’ve got — and I think it’s a great service to the country. edit?

Nixon: You fellows have been out there. You’ve got to know, seeing the barbarians that we’re up against, you’ve got to know what we’re doing in that horrible swamp that North Vietnam is. You’ve got to know from all our faults of what we have in this country that, that what we’re doing is right. You’ve got to know too, people are critics. Critics of the war, critics of unint, run America down. edit? You’ve gotta know that you’re on the winning s—that, that you’re on the right side.

Two weeks later, the veterans squared off on the popular Dick Cavett show:

O’Neill: Mr. Kerry is the type of person who lives and survives only on the war weariness and fears of the American people. This is the same little man who on nationwide television in April spoke of, quote, crimes committed on a day to day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.

Kerry: We believe as veterans who took part in this war we have nothing to gain by coming back here and talking about those things that have happened except to try and point the way to America, to try and say, here is where we went wrong, and we’ve got to change.

Later that year, even as the war continued, Kerry left the increasingly radical Vietnam Veterans Against the War. But the Nixon White House kept after John Kerry. It’s said that when Kerry ran for Congress in 1972, Nixon stayed up late on election night until he knew for sure that Kerry had been defeated.

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NIXON TARGETED KERRY FOR ANTI-WAR VIEWS
MSNBC.com ^ | March 15, 2004 | Brian Williams

Posted on 03/15/2004 4:57:22 PM PST by ntnychik

NIXON TARGETED KERRY FOR ANTI-WAR VIEWS

White House tapes reveal then-president’s attempt to discredit Kerry during 1971 war protests, Senate testimony

By Brian Williams, Correspondent

NBC News Updated: 5:43 p.m. ET March 15, 2004

John Kerry’s first steps onto the national political stage took place back in 1971, when as a returning Vietnam War hero, Kerry lead fellow veterans to Washington to protest against the Vietnam War and testify to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee about the horrors of the war he had seen first hand. Now a NBC News examination of White House audio tapes shows that Kerry’s leadership drew the attention and the ire of President Richard Nixon.

Kerry was a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War and went to Washington for a week in April, 1971 to protest, lobby Congress, even to return hundreds of medals and service decorations — thrown into a heap on Capitol Hill. Though the president was gradually withdrawing American ground troops, the veterans said that wasn’t enough. They wanted the United States to pull out immediately.

The Nixon administration went to court to block the 1,200 veterans from camping out on the Mall during their protest, but Kerry and his group stayed put. The reaction from Nixon’s inner circle was real contempt for the veterans. In private conversations inside the White House, Nixon called them “horrible” and “bastards,” Haldeman described the veterans as “ratty-looking,” and Kissinger dismissed them as “inarticulate.”

But John Kerry was just the opposite — presentable, politically astute and very articulate. He appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to testify against the war, critical of the President’s Vietnam policy. “Someone has to die,” Kerry told the committee, “so that President Nixon won’t be, and these are his words, ‘the first President to lose a war.’”

"Well, he is sort of a phony, isn't he?

— President Richard Nixon, May, 1971-- Speaking with aide Charles Colson about John Kerry

Kerry also questioned the administration’s strategy of gradual “Vietnamization” of the war — pulling out U.S. ground troops, and turning the war over to the South Vietnamese military. “How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam?” Kerry demanded. “How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?”

White House attention

Kerry's testimony reached a national audience, including, we now know from once-secret White House tapes, the president himself, who brought it up with his chief of staff Bob Haldeman. Here is an excerpt from a tape recorded on April 23, 1971, the day after Kerry’s Senate testimony:

Nixon: Apparently, this fellow, uh, that they put in the front row, is that what you say, the front [unintelligible] the real stars — Kerry.

Haldeman: Kerry. He is, he did a hell of a great job on the, uh --

Nixon: He was extremely effective.

And Haldeman concluded: “I think you’ll find Kerry running for political office.”

Related documents: Extended excerpts from the Nixon White House tapes

Kerry ended his week in Washington with a speech to a huge anti-war rally at the U.S. Capitol, again pointing the finger at the Nixon administration for its conduct of the war, and its reaction to the veterans’ protests. “This is a government that cares more about the legality of where men sleep than the legality of where we drop bombs and why men die,” Kerry declared.

The Nixon White House saw Kerry as a threat, and set out to discredit him and infiltrate his organization. The week after the protest rally, Nixon is heard discussing Kerry with White House aide Charles Colson:

Colson: This fellow Kerry that they had on last week --

Nixon: Yeah.

Colson: -- hell, he turns out to be, uh, really quite a phony.

Nixon: Well, he is sort of a phony, isn't he?

Colson: Well, he stayed, when he was here --

Nixon: Stayed out in Georgetown, yeah. [edit]

Colson: -- was out at the best restaurants every night and, uh --

Nixon: Sure.

Colson: -- you know, he's just, the complete opportunist.

Nixon: A racket, sure. [edit]

Colson: We’ll keep hitting him, Mr. President.

Nixon's counter-attack

Colson was Nixon’s point man against Kerry, and he found a weapon in another veteran: John O’Neill. He was a spokesman for Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace, which backed Nixon administration policy in Vietnam, and in turn was supported by the White House.

The White House file

John O’Neill, selected to debate John Kerry about the Vietman War, in the Oval Office with President Nixon and White House aide Charles Colson.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Fresh out of the Navy like Kerry, O’Neill was angry at Kerry for saying U.S. servicemen in Vietnam routinely committed war crimes. The weekend before the Washington protests, Kerry made the accusations on NBC’s Meet the Press, saying, “I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed, in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones.” And, Kerry claimed, “I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All this is contrary to the laws of warfare.”

John O’Neill hit back at Kerry with administration-orchestrated press appearances of his own, including a news conference that June. O’Neill asked rhetorically, “Shall Mr. Kerry and his little group of one thousand or twelve thousand embittered men be allowed to represent their views as that of all veterans, because they can appear on every news program? I hope not, for the country’s sake.”

After the news conference, O’Neill met with Charles Colson at the White House, where the attack on Kerry was seen as a public relations coup. In a conversation with the president, Haldeman gave the credit to Charles Colson, and raved about John O’Neill:

Haldeman: -- crew cut, real sharp looking guy who is more articulate than Kerry. He’s not as eloquent; he isn’t the ham that Kerry is. But he’s more believable.

Haldeman: This guy now, is gonna, he’s gonna move on Kerry.

“This is a government that cares more about the legality of where men sleep than the legality of where we drop bombs and why men die.”

— John Kerry, April, 1971-- Anti-war rally, U.S. Capitol

The White House encouraged O’Neill to challenge Kerry to a debate. Kerry agreed and before the event, President Nixon called O’Neill into the Oval Office for a pep talk. “It’s a great service to the country,” declared the president.

Nixon: Give it to him, give it to him. And you can do it, because you have a pleasant manner, too, because you’ve got — and I think it’s a great service to the country.

Nixon: You fellows have been out there. You’ve got to know, seeing the barbarians that we’re up against, you’ve got to know what we’re doing in that horrible swamp that North Vietnam is. You’ve got to know from all our faults of what we have in this country that, that what we’re doing is right. You’ve got to know too, people are critics. Critics of the war, critics of [unint], run America down. You’ve gotta know that you’re on the winning s—that, that you’re on the right side.

Two weeks later, the veterans squared off on the popular Dick Cavett show:

O’Neill: Mr. Kerry is the type of person who lives and survives only on the war weariness and fears of the American people. This is the same little man who on nationwide television in April spoke of, quote, crimes committed on a day to day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.

Kerry: We believe as veterans who took part in this war we have nothing to gain by coming back here and talking about those things that have happened except to try and point the way to America, to try and say, here is where we went wrong, and we’ve got to change.

Guest

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject:

This is also of interest.......

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White House tapes

Transcripts by Michael Kranish, Globe Staff

When John Kerry came to Washington in April 1971 to lead a protest against the Vietnam War, his actions drew the attention of President Richard Nixon and top White House aides. As Kerry got more publicity, Nixon told aides that he wasn't worried about the "bearded weirdos" who gathered on the mall, but was concerned about the impact of the neat and much-decorated veteran from Massachusetts.

To gain an insight into Nixon's views about Kerry, the Globe listened to tape recordings in storage at the National Archives branch in College Park, Md. Kerry's name comes up in numerous conversations. What follows is a partial transcription of four such conversations. The following is based on governmental transcriptions, where available, and added transcription by the Globe. Kerry was not aware of these until a Globe reporter read a transcript to him. Some of the recordings are low quality, so it is best to read the transcripts as you are listening.

Conversation No. 1 | April 23, 1971 | Nixon, Haldeman and Kissinger
Hear audio clip

John Kerry delivered his testimony against the Vietnam War on April 22, 1971. The next day, Nixon had several conversations about Kerry and the protests. At around 9:30 a.m., President Nixon met with his chief of staff, Bob Haldeman, and his national security adviser, Henry Kissinger. The topic was Kerry.

President Nixon: Apparently, this fellow, uh, that they put in the front row, is that what you say, the front [unintelligible] the real star...Kerry.

Haldeman: Kerry. He is, he did a hell of a great job on the, uh --

President: He was extremely effective.

Haldeman: [Unintelligible] he did a superb job on it at Foreign Relations Committee yesterday. A Kennedy-type guy -- he looks like a Kennedy and he, and he talks exactly like a Kennedy.

Kissinger: [Unintelligible].

President: Where did he serve?

Haldeman: He was a Navy lieutenant, jg., on a gunboat, and he used, uh, to run his gunboat up and shoot at, uh, shoot babies out of women's arms.

President: Oh, stop that. People in the Navy don't do things (like that). That's not what service in Vietnam, as you well know, Henry, [unintelligible].

Kissinger: That's pretty [unintelligible].

Haldeman: He was only over there for, I thinks it's four months or five months.

President: Bob, the Navy didn't have any casualties in Vietnam except in the air.

Haldeman: Well, this guy got a Purple Heart with two clusters and the --

President: [Unintelligible].

Haldeman: -- Navy Star. He's got a hell of a bundle of lettuce up here.

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Conversation No. 2 | April 23, 1971 | President Nixon and Rose Mary Woods Hear audio clip

Two hours later, at around 11:30 a.m. on April 23, 1971, President Nixon met with his secretary, Rose Mary Woods in the Oval Office. This conversation picks up when Nixon is complaining about universities in Massachusetts that produce "left wingers."

President Nixon: The state is so infected by.(unintelligible)..Harvard, MIT, Brandeis, Smith, Holyoke...you realize all those lousy universities are there. They produce bad people...

Rose Mary Woods: That's right..

President: That's all there is to it...even Boston College has turned sour. It's really terrible..The universities in that area produce a bunch of left wingers. They're the worst.

Woods: They are the ones who really want to ruin this country. They really do.

President: Well, look [unintelligible]. Some of 'em [unintelligible] down here, ya know, raisin' hell.

Woods: Diane just made a, a good comment about the veterans. Once in a while, ya know, they're, I had on the news --

President: Yeah.

Woods: -- and she said, "Well, if they're turning 'em back in, now why did they take them, if they felt that way?" See this is, shows people are working on these, ya know, these darn radicals work on 'em. If they didn't feel they, that, that medal was [unintelligible], then they shouldn't have taken it in the first place, if they really felt that way. Then they act like [unintelligible] mob. They, uh, for the most part they're a pretty motley bunch. They could be easily worked on; that's why they're here. Look at the many who are back who, who are --

President: Two and a half million.

Woods: -- out working and, and --

President: Decent.

Woods: -- have done their duty, and --

President: Proud of it.

Woods: Um hum. [Unintelligible] don't dare go around these people because I just want to hit at 'em. Umph!

President: Well, they do get them there. These clever left-wingers who're, uh, the Communists, and basically a lot of this is Communist.

Woods: Oh, of course it is. Look how hard this Bella Abzug or whatever that terrible beast's name is, look how hard she's working on it. And all the, these Congressmen and Senators who are out shoutin' and encouraging these people.

President: Yep.

Woods: I tell you, iif it --.

President: Well, Teddy Kennedy [unintelligible], ya know, says --

Woods: Te- --

President: "I'm with ya all the way." Mathias --.

Woods: Teddy Kennedy, Mathias --

President: Mathias [unintelligible].

Woods: -- Hartke, or Hart --

President: [Unintelligible].

Woods: -- [unintelligible].

President: Huh?

Woods: All these people are encouraging 'em to, to show up, be here on the twenty-fourth. They're, you know, urging these people to come here. Somehow or other we ought to be able to mow everyone of 'em down in the next election.

President: Well --.

Woods: Too bad some of 'em are in for six years already.

President: I hope that at least we could [unintelligible] we've done [unintelligible] about the war. They [unintelligible].

Woods: Carl Curtis's statement last night on radio, anyway, was good. After those Senators, I didn't see those Senators. But, uh, I did hear, I had my radio on, and, and he sounded very good on the radio saying, "Where were all these people? They were very quiet all through all this time of the escalation of the war. And now," and he recited how much you had done, "and now, why now? Why now are they talking when we are ending it?" And he really did a good job. I was very proud of him.

President: Yeah. Well, Taft was pretty good too.

Woods: Taft --

President: Very good.

Woods: -- has been very good, amazingly.

President: And Saxbe.

Woods: Well, and Saxbe. I was absolutely shocked at Saxbe doing something for us.

President: I always [unintelligible]. Well, well, we're not gonna lose it. I, that's the other thing. Ya see, these people want to get it over and let it go Communist. They really do.

Woods: They don't care what happens, and they, and then if, if, if everything goes Communist, and then if, eventually it's gonna react and ruin this country, then it, it won't, won't be because they hollered, and they said this. Course it's you. And basically it's the country. I think, I think a lot of people know that. Course they're tired of the war. Evcryone's tired of war. No one could be more tired of it than you. No one!

President: Sure.

Woods: That's what I always tell 'em. There isn't a soul on earth that wants peace in Vietnam any more than you do. They're terrible phonies. They holler about, ya know, what else the Democr-, makes me so mad. They talk about how they had this big dinner, five hundred dollars, and, of course, they were very, they weren't like the wealthy Rcpublicans havin' it be a thousand.

President: Oh, no, they [unintelligible].

Woods: And they are in debt so much. They owe everyone. You know that they don't want 'em back in Chicago 'cause they haven't paid for that convention yet. That's what Jim Miller told me anyway. And they don't pay anyone.

President: No, they get in and they steal and they start payin' em. Johnson -- course they talk about thousand-dollar dinners, Kennedy and Johnson's were ones that stated that- they shook 'em dowm real good.

Woods: Well, and they [unintelligible], they even had 'em right in their own [unintelligible].

President: Course the real, one of the real problems, this goddamn press is so [unintelligible] unfair. They, they don't give our Republicans who are out tryin' to answer these people, and they put 'em on. Apparently the guy that's really good, the only good one of the damn veterans group, only good from a PR stoundpoint, is Kerry. He's very [unintelligible]. Did you ever see him?

Woods: No. You see, I have...I have the [unintelligible].

President: [Unintelligible] news all Kerry. [Unintelligible].

Woods: Well, they don't, and, and the thing is that, that a few poeple have tried to say it. They, uh, well, even these vetcrans, all the, they just have given them way too much space in on Time and newspapers and, and everywhere, uh. But they always do.

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Conversation No. 3 | April 26, 1971 | Nixon, Haldeman and Ron Ziegler

After a week of protest, including a gathering of 200,000 people on the mall, Nixon met with his chief of staff, Bob Haldeman, and his press secretary, Ronald Ziegler, to discuss the protests.

Haldeman: We've got some interesting dope on Kerry.

President: -- so, so I should be listening; you should say, of course --

Ziegler: That's what I've been saying --.

President: -- of course I've listened. I've listened.

Ziegler: [Unintelligible].

President: Look, I've read every god-, I've read it all. I --

Ziegler: [Unintelligible].

President: -- you read that news summary. That's more - not only there, but I've read the papers, the coverage throughout the country.

Ziegler: That's what I've just --.

President: I always do.

Haldeman: Kerry, it turns out, some time ago decided he wanted to get into politics. Well, he ran for, took a stab at the Congressional thing. And he consulted with some of the folks in the Georgetown set here. So what, what the issue, what, he'd like to get an issue. He wanted a horse to ride.

President: Yeah.

Haldeman: And they got it, that they suggested an issue. Forgot what it was; some stupid thing like, uh....

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Conversation No. 4 | April 27, 1971 | Nixon meets with Rose Mary Woods
The conversation is about the protest rallies.

President: Sit down. Yeah, I said that, I think what's gonna happen is they start, you know, they're gonna stop the roadways next Monday.

Woods: The people are gonna get fed up about this.

President: Don't you think they will? The veterans -- people, uh, sort of sympathize with, but in the end --.

Woods: It's hard to be against them --

President: That's right.

Woods: -- even if they're at fault.

President: But on the other hand, you see a lot of these bearded weirdos, uh --.

Woods: People are sick to death of them.

President: What do you think, what's your reaction?

Woods: Oh, I know, I know drivers 'n' cab drivers 'n' everyone -- well, all you have to do is walk around. Tourists who planned and wanted to come to Washington at this time, for instance, and then also, television has really given [unintelligible] in my [unintelligible] thinking.

President: They [unintelligible].

Woods: I think people are getting sick to death seeing nothing on their television but those bums.

President: Really?

Woods: 'Cause that's all they look like [unintelligible].

President: Well, it helped them, the fir-, one week they ran, you know, that, that fellow Leary or --

Woods: Kerry.

President: -- Kerry so much. He was very, very good, they say --

Woods: [Unintelligible] picture --

President: -- but, uh --.

Woods: -- [unintelligible] of all the Kennedys he was full --

President: Sure.

Woods: -- of baloney.

President: That's right, well, then, you know what? He wasn't livin' down there with those guys [unintelligible].

Woods: No.

President: He's livin' out in a posh pad in Georgetown. That's where he was.

Woods: Oh, so, they, yeah.

President: They're all a funny bunch, but, uh, well, I tell you, we're gonna stand firm against 'em; I got Henry in here; we're gonna.... I said, "Now look, just, they're not gonna rattle us one bit. We're gonna stay on our course. This country's not gonna be run by a bunch of goddamned rabble." Don't you agree?

Woods: I certainly do [unintelligible].

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what's in Nixon's Kerry File??

SBD wrote:

Anyone know what's in Nixon's Kerry File??

SBD

from what I understand, no smoking guns
mostly newspaper clippings about kerry, stuff like that
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone know what's in Nixon's Kerry File??

kate wrote:

SBD wrote:

Anyone know what's in Nixon's Kerry File??

SBD

from what I understand, no smoking guns
mostly newspaper clippings about kerry, stuff like that

Yes, newspaper articles aren't smoking guns, but the tape transcripts are smoking guns, tho the rest we can just blow off if we choose.
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