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shawa
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 Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:32 am Post subject: GOTCHA-Senator Jay Rockefeller!! |
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A BIG GOTCHA!!!
The Democrats, as a whole, keep alive the notion that President Bush took us to war under false pretenses. I chalk up most of them as just brainless twits who just repeat the Democrat talking points, but Senator Rockefeller is the Vice-Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee and as such HE SEES THE SAME INTELLIGENCE THAT THE PRESIDENT SEES. His statements to reporters following the Presidents's speech were especially appalling. This author NAILS HIM!!
THE WEEKLY STANDARD
| Quote: | Rolling Rockefeller
The vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee once saw "a substantial connection between Saddam and al Qaeda." Not any more.
By Stephen F. Hayes
06/30/2005
FEW PEOPLE have been more critical of the Iraq war than Senator Jay Rockefeller, a Democrat from West Virginia.
He has over the past two years repeatedly accused the Bush administration of deliberately deceiving the American public to take the nation to war. It's hard to imagine a more serious charge. And Rockefeller makes it perhaps more credibly than most Iraq War critics--as the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
It's no surprise then that reporters sought out Rockefeller for his reaction to George W. Bush's address to the nation Tuesday night. The junior senator from West Virginia minced no words. Iraq, he said, "had nothing to do with Osama bin Laden, it had nothing to do with al-Qaida, it had nothing to do with September 11, which he managed to mention three or four times and infer three or four more times."
This, Rockefeller seems to find outrageous. "It's sort of amazing that a president could stand up before hundreds of millions of Americans and say that and come back to 9/11--somehow figuring that it clicks a button, that everybody grows more patriotic and more patient. Well, maybe that's good p.r. work, which it isn't, but it's not the way that a commander in chief executes a war. And that's his responsibility in this case."
It is an attack on President Bush that echoes those we've heard from Democrats--both those on the fringe left and those at the top of the party--for the past 27 months. And it is nonsense.
This is what Jay Rockefeller said on the floor of the U.S. Senate on October 10, 2002. His speech announced his support for the resolution authorizing the Iraq war.
As the attacks of September 11 demonstrated, the immense destructiveness of modern technology means we can no longer afford to wait around for a smoking gun. September 11 demonstrated that the fact that an attack on our homeland has not yet occurred cannot give us any false sense of security that one will not occur in the future. We no longer have that luxury.
September 11 changed America. It made us realize we must deal differently with the very real threat of terrorism, whether it comes from shadowy groups operating in the mountains of Afghanistan or in 70 other countries around the world, including our own.
There has been some debate over how "imminent" a threat Iraq poses. I do believe that Iraq poses an imminent threat, but I also believe that after September 11, that question is increasingly outdated.
By my count, that's four references to September 11 in just three paragraphs, as rendered by Rockefeller's own Senate website. And there, in the final paragraph of that passage, Rockefeller says something the Bush administration managed to avoid saying: that Iraq posed an imminent threat. (It's worth noting, further, that the resolution that Rockefeller supported made specific mention of al Qaeda's presence in Iraq: "Members of al Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks that occurred on September 11, are known to be in Iraq.")
What of Rockefeller's comments yesterday that Iraq had nothing to do with al Qaeda? Rockefeller didn't mention Osama bin Laden's global terror network in his floor speech that day. Here's what he did say:
"Saddam's government has contact with many international terrorist organizations that likely have cells here in the United States."
And: "He could make those weapons [WMD] available to many terrorist groups which have contact with his government, and those groups could bring those weapons into the U.S. and unleash a devastating attack against our citizens. I fear that greatly."
He added:
Some argue it would be totally irrational for Saddam Hussein to initiate an attack against the mainland United States, and they believe he would not do it. But if Saddam thought he could attack America through terrorist proxies and cover the trail back to Baghdad, he might not think it so irrational.
If he thought, as he got older and looked around an impoverished and isolated Iraq, that his principal legacy to the Arab world would be a brutal attack on the United States, he might not think it so irrational. And if he thought the U.S. would be too paralyzed with fear to respond, he might not think it so irrational.
I called Rockefeller's office Wednesday in an attempt to learn the names of the "many terrorist groups" whose contacts with the former Iraqi regime helped create an "imminent threat." And which of those "international terrorist organizations likely have cells here in the United States" that threaten us here at home.
Wendy Morigi, Rockefeller's communications director, returned the call. "He was talking about the Palestinian groups that had established relationships with Saddam," she said. "Abu Nidal was living in Baghdad before the war."
Maybe. But one week before his floor speech, Rockefeller gave an interview to the Charleston Gazette. The senator hypothesized about Saddam "getting older" and using not Palestinian groups but al Qaeda to do his dirty work.
"If you go pre-emptive, do you cause Hussein to strike where he might not have? He is not a martyr, not a Wahabbi, not a Muslim radical. He does not seek martyrdom. But he is getting older," Rockefeller told the paper. "Maybe he is seeking a legacy by attacking Israel or using al-Qaeda cells around the world."
I asked Morigi if Senator Rockefeller believed before the war that Iraq had a relationship with al Qaeda. "No."
Odd then that Senator Rockefeller would have spoken of a "substantial connection between Saddam and al Qaeda" just one month before the Iraq War began. In some interviews Rockefeller did say that he hadn't seen evidence of close ties between Iraq and al Qaeda. But asked about an Iraq-al Qaeda relationship by CNN's Wolf Blitzer on February 5, 2003, Rockefeller agreed with Republican Senator Pat Roberts that Abu Musab al Zarqawi's presence in Iraq before the war and his links to a poison camp in northern Iraq were troubling. Rockefeller continued: "The fact that Zarqawi certainly is related to the death of the U.S. aid officer and that he is very close to bin Laden puts at rest, in fairly dramatic terms, that there is at least a substantial connection between Saddam and al Qaeda."
Is this really the same person who now says Iraq "had nothing to do with al Qaeda" and who finds it somehow improper to mention the Iraq war and 9/11 in the same speech?
Since Rockefeller's recent critique deals specifically with Iraq and terrorism, I will resist the temptation to dwell here on other aspects of Rockefeller's 2002 speech. It's worth noting, however, that the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee told his colleagues that "there is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years." And: "Saddam's existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now." And: "We cannot know for certain that Saddam will use the weapons of mass destruction he currently possesses, or that he will use them against us. But we do know Saddam has the capability."
Unmistakable evidence. Existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities. We do know Saddam has the capability. Remember these things the next time you hear Rockefeller and his colleagues accuse the Bush Administration of exaggerating or fabricating the threat from Iraq.
Rockefeller ended his 2002 floor speech with yet another direct reference to September 11--his fifth.
"September 11 has forever changed the world. We may not like it, but that is the world in which we live. When there is a grave threat to Americans' lives, we have a responsibility to take action to prevent it."
Good point.
Stephen F. Hayes is a senior writer at The Weekly Standard. He is author of The Connection: How al Qaeda's Collaboration with Saddam Hussein has Endangered America, published by Harper Collins |
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dusty
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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That's a 'gotcha' if there ever was one. Shut the hell up Sen. Rockefeller. You are contradicting yourself in your efforts to help the enemy. hehe
Great post.
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coldwarvet
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Great find shawa, I believe you are onto something. I would be surprised if Rockefeller is alone in his comments post 911. I am certain if we unleash the archive hunters we will find similar words spoken by most of the loony left that is in stark contrast to their words of today. And oh yes we will use these contradicting words to replace them on their next election day.
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