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BuffaloJack
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 Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:03 pm Post subject: The ACLU is at it again ..... |
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/17/AR2005071700889_pf.html
| Quote: | FBI Monitored Web Sites for 2004 Protests
Groups Criticize Agency's Surveillance for Terror Unit
By Michael Dobbs
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, July 18, 2005; A03
FBI agents monitored Web sites calling for protests against the 2004 political conventions in New York and Boston on behalf of the bureau's counterterrorism unit, according to FBI documents released under the Freedom of Information Act.
The American Civil Liberties Union pointed to the documents as evidence that the Bush administration has reacted to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States by blurring the distinction between terrorism and political protest. FBI officials defended the involvement of counterterrorism agents in providing security for the Republican and Democratic conventions as an administrative convenience.
The documents were released by the FBI in response to a lawsuit filed by a coalition of civil rights, animal rights and environmental groups that say they have been subjected to scrutiny by task forces set up to combat terrorism. The FBI has denied targeting the groups because of their political views.
"It's increasingly clear that the government is involved in political surveillance of organizations that are involved in nothing more than lawful First Amendment activities," said Anthony Romero, executive director of the ACLU. "It raises very serious questions about whether the FBI is back to its old tricks."
A Sept. 4, 2003, document addressed to the FBI counterterrorism unit described plans by a group calling itself RNC Not Welcome to "disrupt" the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York. It also described Internet postings from an umbrella organization known as United for Peace and Justice, which was coordinating worldwide protests against the convention.
"It's one thing to monitor protests and protest organizers, but quite another thing to refer them to your counterterrorism unit," said Leslie Cagan, national coordinator for United for Peace and Justice.
Another document, addressed to the Joint Terrorism Task Force, which coordinates anti-terrorist activities by the FBI and local police forces, described threats to disrupt the Democratic National Convention in Boston.
Responding to the lawsuit filed in May in U.S. District Court in Washington, the FBI said it had identified 1,173 pages of records relating to the ACLU and 2,383 pages relating to Greenpeace. The content of the records, which were generated since 2001, is not known.
FBI spokesmen declined to discuss the case on the record on the grounds that it is being adjudicated. Speaking on background, an FBI official said that many of the records were routine correspondence. He said the FBI counterterrorism unit received reports on possible threats to the 2004 political conventions because of its role in ensuring security.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/17/AR2005071700889_pf.html
The All Commie Lawyers Union just can't understand that it is the job of the FBI to watch for terror links and clues to potential violence opportunities that might present themselves, like demonstrations at policical events and conventions.
I for one am glad that the FBI and any other Federal agency is on the ball and doing its job to keep us safe. If they need to keep files on these potential malcontents then that is the price of admission. It is actions like these that insure our freedoms and the security of our nation.
If some group is upset at the FBI for keeping records, what is it they are trying to hide?
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dusty
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | If some group is upset at the FBI for keeping records, what is it they are trying to hide? |
Their Communist connections maybe? Contrary to what the ACLU must believe, it's not ok with most Americans that we become a communist country. But they are sure working hard at making that happen.
Why is that?
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FreeFall
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The ACLU was founded by a socialist.
link: http://plsurvey.com/index.php?/archives/47-ACLU-Founder-Roger-Baldwin.html
ACLU Founder Roger Baldwin
"I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the State itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
Roger Baldwin, founder of the American Civil Liberties Union.
Quoted in the National Federation for Decency Journal, September 1988. Page 9.
Nuff said.
Source #2
The nation's most formidable legal lobby, the ACLU, was founded in 1920 by the avowedly socialist Roger Baldwin, following his imprisonment for draft evasion, along with an assortment of Communist Party officials, radicals and anarchists. Baldwin, who directed the ACLU from 1920 to 1950, wrote for his college-reunion yearbook in 1935: "I have continued directing the unpopular fight for the rights of agitation, as director of the American Civil Liberties Union.... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal." This sort of history has tended to annoy conservatives and, though a few have been able to overlook it to join, most have avoided membership in the ACLU Nonetheless, it now boasts a 50-state network including 300 local chapters.
John Elvin, "Can a Political Odd Couple Reconcile Its Differences," Insight on the News 28 July 1997, Questia, 31 Dec. 2004 . |
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carpro
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Doesn't it just figure that Baldwin was awarded the Medal of Freedom by Jimmy Carter 5 days before the inauguration of Ronald Reagan?
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shawa
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BuffaloJack said
| Quote: | The All Commie Lawyers Union just can't understand that it is the job of the FBI to watch for terror links and clues to potential violence opportunities that might present themselves, like demonstrations at policical events and conventions.
I for one am glad that the FBI and any other Federal agency is on the ball and doing its job to keep us safe. If they need to keep files on these potential malcontents then that is the price of admission. It is actions like these that insure our freedoms and the security of our nation. |
I'm with you Jack!! Let the FBI do what it's gotta do.
Can you imagine the outcry, had there been a successful terrorist operation at either one of the conventions? All we would hear is 'Why didn't the FBI know?"
My hat's off to them for all that they do!!
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