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homesteader PO3
Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 294 Location: wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:02 am Post subject: Bush Administration Failure |
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The Bush Administration Failed...........
1. to anticipate that the mayor of NO would fail to execute his evacuation plan.
2. to remind the mayor that his evacuation plan warns that his city should not expect help from outside for 2-3 days.
3. to tell the mayor that if he was not going to evac the city, he needed to preposition several tankers of water and several truck loads of MREs at the Superdome and Convention Center.
4. to anticipate that the mayor and governor would not declare a manditory evacuation until the President personally called the governor and urged her to do so.
5. to anticipate that civil order would disappear as soon as the air conditioning quit and people missed a meal, thus ampliphying the failure of #3.
Oh I give up. The list will be too long and I need to get some sleep. Basically, the Administration failed, either out of PCness or politeness to acknowledge how incompetent the authorities in LA and NO were. |
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FreeFall LCDR
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 421
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Homesteader, great list! Where did you get this info? |
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blue9t3 Admiral
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 1246 Location: oregon
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:02 am Post subject: |
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#5skip#5skip#5skip--------hehe--ha-ha-! _________________ MOPAR-BUYER |
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mtboone Founder
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 470 Location: Kansas City, MO.
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Yes, the Federal Government failed to react in time. At some time, people have to react independently of the states action or lack of inaction and put in motion action to assist in the problem and the assist the people regardless of their stupid choice. I think some of you have to stop the Demo and Republican discorse and think USA as an American first. To those that say the "State has to request assistance first". I think you should look at that statement and do you believe that you would accept that as a statement if you were in that situation, flooded, no food or water? _________________ Terry Boone PCF 90
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USAFE5 PO2
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 362 Location: Reno Nevada
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Well speaking for myself and family,
1. We have camping equipment and have for years, having lived in the rocking state (CA) for most of my life.
2. Hubby knows how to hunt and we both can shot accurately enough to feed our family and possibly more.
3. Even here in Vegas my a/c isn't on until triple digits and the first two have to be ones.
4. Having served in the USAF (both of us) we understand personal reliability, and the need to care those who aren't able to care for themselves (children and the elderly being at the top of the list)
5. So we would have little difficulty in waiting the time needed for the Feds to come in in an organized manner to make the most of all resources.
Unfortunately we have lost a couple of generations to welfare and socialistic thought. I hope we find more like the young man who saved people with the bus, even though he'd never driven one before. _________________ "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I’m here to help." Ronald Reagan |
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 972 Location: GUAM, USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Living in Typhoon Alley we have become used to survival after large storms. After Bongsanwa a CAT 5 Typhoon (wind gust above 200 MPH) FEMA was not here for several days in force. People’s houses were gone (blown away) and they didn't loot the local stores. Power was out for months and water almost as long and nobody shot at helicopters out of anger.
The Governor didn't give a Mandatory Evacuation order before the storm as there was no place to run to except into the ocean.
They Islanders didn’t whine about what happened to them or blame the President/Government. They just shed a few tears, rolled up their sleeves and rebuilt their Island better than before.
Now this particular storm sat over Guam for seventeen hours and shredded the Island. There was only one death associated to the storm. An old Island lady died of a heart attack.
When we hear a typhoon is coming the bathtubs are filled with washing and toilet flushing water, the generator checked out and the cars gassed up. We stock enough food to last at least three weeks and have fifty gallons of drinking water on hand.
_________________ Retired AF E-8
Independent that leans right of center. |
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homesteader PO3
Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 294 Location: wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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mtboone,
I agree that Americans should respond as Americans first and when we look at what has been accomplished in one week, that is what has happened.
It is not inappropriate, however, when the mayor of NO excusses his verbal attack on the President of the US by asking "if you were in my position, what would you do?" to answer him. Mr. Mayor, since you knew, as detailed in your own plans, that you would have thousands of people at the Superdome, is it unreasonable to ask why you did not think of providing a couple tanker trucks of water. Even some tanker trucks from you your own fire departments would have gone a long way toward easing the suffering of so many; suffering you insist took place because someone else did not anticipate that you would fail to do it.
When attitudes and behavior such as the mayor's are not responded to, it only serves to enable, perpetuate, inbed and ultimately endorse such attitudes and behaviors. NO was a place where that happened for decades and now we do not have to project into the future, wondering what the result will be. The tragic consequences of such PCness unfolded before our eyes. |
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Armybrat/Armymom Commander
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 335 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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For heaven's sake, these two (mayor and gov) are the respective heads of their areas (N.O. and La). Since they wanted the jobs as much as they did (probably spent buckets of money for their campaigns) what do they think the jobs entail. Standing around for photo ops? Disasters do happen in many different ways. If they can't handle the responsibilities that go with the jobs, find something to do that isn't so hard, like become some kind of "celeb" and criticize the Republicans when they are in office. |
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jwb7605 Rear Admiral
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 690 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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USAFE5 wrote: | Well speaking for myself and family,
1. We have camping equipment and have for years, having lived in the rocking state (CA) for most of my life.
2. Hubby knows how to hunt and we both can shot accurately enough to feed our family and possibly more.
3. Even here in Vegas my a/c isn't on until triple digits and the first two have to be ones.
4. Having served in the USAF (both of us) we understand personal reliability, and the need to care those who aren't able to care for themselves (children and the elderly being at the top of the list)
5. So we would have little difficulty in waiting the time needed for the Feds to come in in an organized manner to make the most of all resources.
Unfortunately we have lost a couple of generations to welfare and socialistic thought. I hope we find more like the young man who saved people with the bus, even though he'd never driven one before. |
My fundamental question has always been how much game would be left, given 100,000+ people trying to hunt them. |
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