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Newsmax (www.newsmax.com) has an article quoting that pathetic excuse for a Senator blaming Bush for the fact that school buses were not used in NOLA for evacuation on Bush's failure to fund mass transit! She made this ridiculous statement Sunday on some talk show, ignoring the fact that that NOLA's own Emergency Plan calls for the use of buses to evacuate people who cannot evacuate on their own. I can't wait for Landrieu to charge that Bush created Katrina, aimed it at NOLA, and when it veered east, had his oil buddies dynamite the levee! Twisted Evil

LewWaters · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:32 am Post subject:

Many Liberals are trying to take advantage of the hurricane to use it against Bush. All they need do is convince the public that Conservatives allowed people to languish in N.O. and then hint they could do better.

However, they haven't figured on Conservative blogs and commentators calling a spade a spade and letting the world know that some 569 buses sat idle in two separate barns in N.O.

I would be willing to put money out that most, if not all, are driveable still, if diesels, as most buses are today.

Brit Hume did a fantastic job tonight letting Juan Williams know he was a moron on Foxnews. Jaun too started in on Bush and FEMA beiong slow to respond. Brit let him know right away that the Red Cross and FEMA both had relief supplies staged and ready to be taken to the Superdome and it was the State Department of Homeland Security, under control of Governor Blanco, that blocked their distribution.

I don't really like playing the blame game over this, but with the level of accusations leveled at our President, the truth needs to be spread.

Another bone of contention is Saint Hillary complaining about FEMA being under the Depat. of Homeland Security. She's run off at the mouth all week about it, but apparently forgot it was Congress that dreamed up the DHLS as it is and she voted YEA!

I applaud Bush for not standing out and pointing fingers where they need to be. He stands there and takes the abuse and goes on about leading the country. Algore or sKerry either one would have been the opposite, I do believe.

BuffaloJack · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:21 am Post subject:

Lew, I blame the Liberals for everything.
Liberals and Eco-Nuts fight the oil and gas industry at every turn. No new refineries in 25 years. No new drilling, etc.
Liberals stop medical advances by nit-picking every wonder drug and hauling its manufactuers to court for exhorbitant awards. This limits the funds needed for new research .
Liberals plant the seeds of racial conflict every chance they get by just bringing up up the subject.
Liberals put so many laws into effect that it takes months and lots of lawyers to close on a simple real estate deal.
Liberals attack our software developers and force a system so complex that it is very expensive.
Liberals broke up Ma Bell and now we have escalating phone bills.
Liberals are anti-business and their actions put so many laws and regulations in place that it is not economical to do business.
Liberals stop the use of fertilizers and pesticides and make food more expensive and difficult to grow.
Liberals created a social and welfare system than is out of control.
In short, I blame the Liberals for everything that holds this great contry back and stop us from realizing our dreams.
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dusty · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:24 am Post subject:

I do believe you are right Lew.
I saw the Landrieu interview and almost fell out of my chair when she came out with that. What a crock. Does she really believe anyone will fall for that one?
Sounds like the chickens are coming home to roost and it's starting to squeeze. It's gonna get a lot tighter on the local and state officials before this is over.
Once again the president shows the way. He knows all he has to do is wait and vindication will come with no effort on his part. Comes from doing the right thing.
Do the right thing and don't worry. Good example

Dusty
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homesteader · PO3 Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 294 Location: wisconsin

OK! Now we have an actual number that can be used to....569 (buses).

I can see it now.....Show the clip or play the sound bite of Hizonor the mayor (governor or senator) screaming for 500 buses. Then show the picture of the 569 buses sitting under water within a couple miles of the Superdome. Then make a correction and say "Oh we were wrong, it was 568. A 17 year old boy figured out how to start and drive one to Huston with 70 people on board."

Come on RNC. This could be fun.

Uisguex Jack · Rear Admiral Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 613

I agree with everything I've read. Lews list is on the money.

However there is nothing fun about any of this. It is disgusting and disparaging. I am reminded of my own employ as a youth on a 100 ton comercial tour boat.

When the sewage pump froze up from people putting the wrong things in the heads some one had to submerge themselves in the 500 gal tank to get the pump out. Not a fun job but it had to be done. That was my job, $2.65/hour.

dusty · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject:

Anker-Klanker · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject:

NO! NO! EMPHATICALLY NO! This attitude of just letting everything return to normal, with the hope that eventually the truth will get out is just plain wrong-headed (in my mind).

If there's any group that witnessed and felt the power of MSM to spin, misdirect, and just plain lie to the American public, it's this group. They got away with it in the last election (with a couple of notable exceptions), and they're getting bolder in their abandonment of truth and their duty to the American people. After all sKerry still hasn't released his records, and NO ONE in the media did any fact-finding follow-up on his dismal record. Next time, they'll even be bolder in their new-found mission of "activism journalism."

By allowing MSM to divert people's attention from what really went wrong to a full-scale castigation of Bush and FEMA, they are taking all focus off the fact that NO's Disaster Preparedness Plan was a complete sham. I've read their plan thoroughly - it's a lot of useless words that finally boiled down to the fact that they didn't have a plan (even if they had tried to execute it). For Heaven's Sakes, they hadn't even gotten around to developing the plan for a hurricane shelter! That last was a "future plan."

Now how many other cities (and states) in the US do you think might be in about the same shape? I'd venture the guess that it's upwards of nearly 50% (or more), and probably for exactly the same reason - it was just something they had to do to milk money from the public largesse.

I watched Houston respond magnificently to the influx of evacuees. But the reason that they could do that - if we're really honest - is that as a city under threat of their own hurricane disaster, they obviously did have a plan that had been implemented - or at the very least they had a pre-selected, and somewhat prepared hurricane shelter plan. Conversely, I watched my own city of Dallas' response in the first few days after it was announced by the Governor that Dallas should take in 25,000 evacuees. It was quite apparent we didn't have a plan for a mass disaster that would require providing shelter and services for anything over than about 2,000 evacuees/refugees. (No, you won't read about this in the local press - they're too busy spinning how well they performed - but if you go back to that 24-48 hours when they were going to have to put their money where their mouth was, it was apparent how woefully unprepared we'd have been if a major disaster struck here).

So how well is your city and state and prepared - really?

If we don't keep the focus on the local (city and state) failures (as well as the federal level; I'll not let them off the hook), there's not a snowball's chance in H__ that any of this is going to improve. And it's all going to happen again.

dusty · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject:

A.K., I didn't mean us to just sit and wait. We're s'posed to raise holy hell about the media's bias.
But the pres. is showing character by focusing on the job at hand and knowing that there are plenty of people out here who will make damn sure the truth wins out is what I was referring to.
You are right on the money that we can't sit back and be quiet.
Sorry I wasn't more lucid. I can see where one would think I was meaning us to be quiet.

Dusty
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Tanya · Senior Chief Petty Officer Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 570

video of the Landrieu spin:

http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/09/11/landrieufns/

Uisguex Jack · Rear Admiral Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 613

Dusty, I kept that job a few more years, had to do that damn task twice over the years.

I was young and honored to have the responsibilty, 15-20 and first mate.

Anker-Klanker · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:23 pm Post subject:

Sorry Dusty, my comments were not directed at you (which I hope you know).

My frustration is in the overall scene: what MSM is apparently getting away with (again), and in what I think is our own people's lack of seeing the damage that is being done. We're all so busy playing the "blame defense" game (rightly so), that we're missing the fact that this disaster pointed out a huge weakness in our preparedness for disasters. And it starts at the local and state levels, which I contend are woefully unprepared and that many cities and states are probably as guilty of the corruption as NO was.

I think there's a huge cover-up going on - all across the nation. Every city and state official who doesn't have a plan or who knows that his plan was put together for no other reason than to milk money from the public troughs, every "investigative" reporter (seen any of them lately?) who didn't do his duty to look into this issue, etc., etc.

In my view, the biggest sins of FEMA (who MSM has been focusing on) is that they did not manage expectations, and that they were too loose with the public's money when funding was being allocated for preparedness.

blue9t3 · Admiral Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 1246 Location: oregon

Man Jack, Your a tough cookie, that tank job would of been my 10 second notice and I would of swam home! Suddenly I feel like taking another shower. Rolling Eyes

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homesteader · PO3 Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 294 Location: wisconsin

I wish I was a bit more creative and could crank out some of this stuff myself but the territory is rich with material for humor, sarcasm, ridicule and plain truth telling, all to be used in the counter offensive (not defense) against the MSM "riot".

---The 568 buses that could't. The one little bus that could. (a kids' book, a cartoon, a folk song)

---I've got a hang nail, where's FEMA?

---Need a levee built? Here's some money for a casino.

I'm not trying to make light of the real suffering that is being endured or stoop to the childish behavior of the dems and MSM by going "Oh yah? Well so's your old man" but we have to fight back. The Libs love to pile on and kick someone who is down, especially if they think they put him there. I have not watched any of the Roberts hearings yet but my gut tells me they are going to sense an opening or that they have succeeded in weakening the Administration and they will be doing lots of grandstanding.

What I am reading on other threads encourages me to believe that the truth is starting to shine the muddied waters.

Anker-Klanker · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject:

I'm from the Media; I'm here to blame/FEMA you.