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jwb7605
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 Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:09 pm Post subject: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side' |
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just when I was ready to believe things could improve, a new study destroys everything I'd thought was true in one fell swoop:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1798944,00.html
| Quote: | “The non-religious, proevolution democracies contradict the dictum that a society cannot enjoy good conditions unless most citizens ardently believe in a moral creator.
“The widely held fear that a Godless citizenry must experience societal disaster is therefore refuted.”
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I was unable to cross-check the above factually. |
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GM Strong
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side' |
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| jwb7605 wrote: | just when I was ready to believe things could improve, a new study destroys everything I'd thought was true in one fell swoop:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1798944,00.html
| Quote: | “The non-religious, proevolution democracies contradict the dictum that a society cannot enjoy good conditions unless most citizens ardently believe in a moral creator.
“The widely held fear that a Godless citizenry must experience societal disaster is therefore refuted.”
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I was unable to cross-check the above factually. |
   What in hell is a non-religious, proevolution democracy? This is swill. This is a statement made by a fool. A democracy can only exist in the presence of an educated citizenry which necessarally goes along with a moral foundation for the basis of the society and its rule of law. The premise of the subject statement is of course a non sequitor.
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BuffaloJack
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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GM Strong.
I hope that you understand that the United States is NOT a democracy. In a democracy there are direct elections and referendums where the citizens vote directly for their leaders and laws. The United States is a REPUBLIC. In a republic we have representative government where the citizens elect representatives that vote for them on the many issues to be decided. (i.e., Senators, Congressmen, the electoral college, etc.)
Jack
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Anker-Klanker
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Just notice the source - the UK! There's more garbage coming out of the UK media now than I can stomach. It's the socialist set that has taken root there. |
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Uisguex Jack
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GM Strong
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| BuffaloJack wrote: | GM Strong.
I hope that you understand that the United States is NOT a democracy. In a democracy there are direct elections and referendums where the citizens vote directly for their leaders and laws. The United States is a REPUBLIC. In a republic we have representative government where the citizens elect representatives that vote for them on the many issues to be decided. (i.e., Senators, Congressmen, the electoral college, etc.)
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This is a Federal Republic, but we often speak in generic terms of democracy. Pure democracy is mob rule on a large scale. Local governement is the foundation of our Republic and is more democratic in nature. A rule of law needs a moral foundation.
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BuffaloJack
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| GM Strong wrote: |
This is a Federal Republic, but we often speak in generic terms of democracy. Pure democracy is mob rule on a large scale. Local governement is the foundation of our Republic and is more democratic in nature. A rule of law needs a moral foundation. |
GM Strong,
I especially like the way you put it, "Pure democracy is mob rule on a large scale."
I think that's just how the liberals like it.
Jack
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