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NoNaYet Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:45 am Post subject: Slide Show Memorial |
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Some time ago, I believe here, I found a slide show memorial to the troops in Iraq which touched me deeply. I have lost the link. What really touched me was images of 101st Airborne troops mourning their lost comrades (even though I am attached to the 82nd guys). Does anyone have an idea where this was? |
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blue9t3 Admiral
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:26 am Post subject: |
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If its out there, you will get it in short order knowing this crowd!
PS: welcome too the cool crowd! _________________ MOPAR-BUYER |
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LewWaters Admin
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 4042 Location: Washington State
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rbshirley Founder
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:08 am Post subject: Re: Slide Show Memorial |
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NoNaYet wrote: | Some time ago, I believe here, I found a slide show memorial to the
troops in Iraq which touched me deeply. What really touched me was
images of 101st Airborne troops mourning their lost comrades. Does
anyone have an idea where this was? |
Being a Swifty, I'm not sure I would be able to differentiate between an
Iraqi Freedom 101st Airborne paratrooper and a 3rd ID infantryman or
a Marine Expeditionary Force member. They all wear the same uniform.
And all are heros to me. They also feel the pain of loss and separation as
we did in past conflicts. The heritage of sacrifice for our country continues
............... ...............
One of the best slide show reflections on this theme is at: WeSupportU2
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wonhyo Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 85
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:01 am Post subject: We support them Awesome!!! |
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That was an awesome video! Thanks to all of of you who have educated me in so many ways. My father was in his 60's when I was born, he died shortly after and I never had a father figure, pushed around from childrens homes one after the other. Luckily I married a great person, with whom I have a son and two daughters, and a fantastic grandaughter. Every day after I come listen to you, I tell them something I have learned today. The greatest thing you have taught me is the selfless love everyone in the military gives every day, for us, and I want my children to know you, honor you, support you, and defend you, and love you for what you have given us!!!!
Thank you beyond words!!! |
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NoNaYet Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject: Thanks LewWaters |
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The one I was looking for is under the name Happy Holidays on the website you linked (although it was not called that when I first saw it).
I should not look at these at work.
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NoNaYet Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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rbshirley wrote:
Being a Swifty, I'm not sure I would be able to differentiate between an
Iraqi Freedom 101st Airborne paratrooper and a 3rd ID infantryman or
a Marine Expeditionary Force member. They all wear the same uniform.
RB,
The 101st are the Screaming Eagles, and have an eagle patch. The 82nd are the All American Division, and have back to back A's (AA) on their patch.
In WWI the 82nd was a regular infantry unit; the first composed from troops from all across America, and that is why they are the All Americans.
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I B Squidly Vice Admiral
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 879 Location: Cactus Patch
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:49 am Post subject: |
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A squid like RB I have my problems of recognition as well though I recognize unit patches when I see them and of course we got this love hate thing with jarheads and can smell 'em. The Air Force is easily recognized but has just has too many stripes to figure NonCom rank. A question for anyone in the know about the 'Frozen Chosen': I've always heard them refered to as the 1st Marine's but I don't know if that's a division, a battallion or a brigade?
NoNaYet,
You're right. We entered the first war under the old schema of divisions organized by state. It didn't work and didn't survive 90 days. I thought however, the Big Red One was the first reconfigured unit.
A WWI aside: Profitable railroads couldn't be bothered by the Army's needs in the first war so the War Dept. nationalized rail management but they hadn't yet mastered linear math. The railroads spent ten years sorting out the mess left behind and the army did not repeat the mistake in the second war. _________________ "KILL ALL THE LAWYERS!"
-Wlm Shakespeare |
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NoNaYet Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:02 am Post subject: First Marine Division |
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Squidly,
I think the 82nd was the first Army unit from mixed states, but I could be wrong.
I had the pleasure of touring the USS Texas a number of years ago, and saw the Marine spaces. I believe they were for the First Marine Division.
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NoNaYet Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:06 am Post subject: More 82nd Comments |
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The popularity of Band of Brothers sheds some well deserved glory on the 101st, but don't think the 82nd wasn't in there too.
If you want to start a bar fight call a bunch of Screaming Eagles the "Screaming Chickens" or some 82nd boys the "Almost Airborne".
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LewWaters Admin
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 4042 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:34 am Post subject: |
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NoNa, my unit supported Units of the 101st in Viet Nam. Our Patch was the 1st Aviation Brigade, an eagle with a sword straight up behind it. They jokingly called us "Chicken on a Stick." In return, we said they were the "Puking Buzzards." We'd all laugh and hit the EM or NCO Club at Base Camp and have a beer. |
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I B Squidly Vice Admiral
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:05 am Post subject: |
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NoNaYet,
All ships have a 1st Division, boatswains usually berthed forward and a good place for Marines though we had no 4stripers to rate them.
I was on DDG21 which nicely translated to 'Black Jack' a 'Lover, a Fighter and a TinCan Rider' or 'Two Screw Crew' as no one knew who Cochrane was. In Japan we said 'Goki Buti' and in Tagalog we said 'Epis' which meant cockroach, our over-abundant shipmate. _________________ "KILL ALL THE LAWYERS!"
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rbshirley Founder
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:54 am Post subject: |
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NoNaYet wrote: | Had the pleasure of touring the USS Texas a number of years ago, and
saw the Marine spaces. I believe they were for the First Marine Division. |
Acording to the 1st Marine Division website: "The 1st Marine Division was
activated aboard the battleship USS Texas February 1, 1941. It is the oldest,
largest (active duty), and most decorated division-sized unit in the United
States Marine Corps."
So NoNaYet is correct in referring to a 1st Marine Division tribute on BB-35
I B Squidly wrote: | A question for anyone in the know about the 'Frozen Chosin':
I've always heard them referred to as the 1st Marines but I do
not know if that's a division, a battalion or a brigade? |
Like Squidly, I have trouble with land force organizational terms such as
battalions, regiments, brigades and divisions. Fortunately, the 1st Marine
Division's web site also provides some help at: Unit Directory. Currently
the 1st Marine Division contains the 1st, 5th, 7th, and 11th Regiments
So the answer to Squidly's question about Chosin is probably that BOTH
of these statements are correct about the "1st Marines:"
The 1st Marine Regiment historian wrote: | The Regiment then went on to take part in the liberation of
Seoul and later in the noted Chosin Reservoir Campaign. |
The 1st Marine Division historian wrote: | The fifth PUC was for the Division’s “attack in the opposite direction,”
fighting its way out of the Chosin Reservoir against seven Communist
Chinese divisions. The Chinese suffered an estimated 37,500 casualties
trying to stop the Marines’ march out of the “Frozen Chosin.” |
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carpro Admin
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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In the case of Frozen Chosin, 1st Marines refers to the entire division.
But it can also be used to refer to the 1st Marine Regiment, same as 5th Marines and 7th Marines...all infantry units. The 11th Marines I believe without checking, is an artillary regiment.
You can differentiate Marines from the Army by the absence of unit patches. Also, if you look closely, you'll see that the camoflauge pattern on Marine utilities is slightly different from the Army. _________________ "If he believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service." |
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NoNaYet Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:01 am Post subject: Camoflaue |
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Capro said:
Also, if you look closely, you'll see that the camoflauge pattern on Marine utilities is slightly different from the Army.
I started working for the Army as a consultant 3 weeks ago in a very much office setting, but there are many Army and Air Force types in and out that wear utilities. Most have familiar woodland pattern, but some of the Army types (mostly Majors or higher) have started wearing a new fatigue which is more subdued and has a much smaller pattern.
Someone tell me how to tell a Lt. Col. from a Major when they have subdued insignia.
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