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olympian2004 Lt.Jg.
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 121 Location: Boulder, Colorado
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:34 am Post subject: A Traitor's Tirade: Rep. John Murtha Soils The Corps |
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GUNNYISM OF THE DAY:
"Chesty is cursing in his grave tonight. One of his own has despoiled the general's grave by inciting surrender. May God have no mercy whatsoever on John Murtha's grave, once filled."
"Chesty" Puller at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesty_Puller
*** Note *** Gunny Bob's Friday evening show on 850am KOA from 7pm to 10pm (mountain time) will be devoted to this topic. Details below.
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GUNNY BOB'S COLUMN NOVEMBER 17, 2005:
A Traitor's Tirade: Rep. John Murtha Soils The Corps
In a statement that has angered, embarrassed and humiliated Marines around the globe, one of our own -- a retired Marine Corps Reserve colonel -- has called for the legendary fighting force to retreat from Iraq and surrender to the terrorist organization that has killed thousands of Americans at home and abroad. He has even called for the United States to enter into negotiations with al Qaeda. This vermin’s demand for retreat, surrender and negotiations with the enemy is so committed to assisting al Qaeda in their efforts in Iraq that he has posted his unspeakable demands on his website in the form of an official statement
John Murtha press release:
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/pa12_murtha/pr051117iraq.html
The traitor, Democratic Rep. John P. Murtha, agrees 100% with Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab al Zarqawi that the Marine Corps, which is mangling the enemy on a daily basis in Iraq and suffering comparatively light casualties, should lay down its arms, call it quits, and abandon the people they are defending in the fledgling democracy of Iraq.
Furious Marines from wars as far back as World War II are spitting mad at the cowardly colonel and many want his head on a stake in the middle of the Marine Corps Commandant's lawn. Personally, I would not soil that good earth with so vile and despicable a piece of offal.
Encouraging retreat is viewed as aiding the enemy by the Marines and is a violation of Article 104 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is punishable by death. Currently serving Marines, active duty or reserve, who encourage surrender are in violation of Article 100 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, an offense also punishable by death. Because Murtha is retired, he is virtually assured of not being prosecuted.
However, he will be celebrated by al Qaeda and other terrorists around the world. At this very moment, al Qaeda communications specialists are likely prepping pieces of propaganda using Murtha’s traitorous tirade as a tool to recruit fresh killers by showing them that even an American Marine (apologies to Puller) believes his allegedly beloved Corps is so inept in battle that retreat and surrender are the Marines’ best option and perhaps should, in fact, be added for the first time to the Leathernecks’ vast, quasi-mythical repertoire of operational art and battlefield strategy.
Murtha joins the likes of traitor Clayton Lonetree, the Marine security guard who gave top-secret intelligence to the Soviets, and traitor Robert Garwood, the Marine who went over to the enemy during the Vietnam War and was involved in holding and abusing US prisoners of war in North Vietnam while wearing the uniform of the enemy.
The Marine Corps is famous for its members standing their ground and winning fights against outrageous odds. Battles with names like the Peking Legation, Belleau Wood, Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, the Chosin Reservoir, Khe Sanh and Fallujah decorate the hallowed halls of Corps history. Especially repugnant is how Murtha is insisting upon surrender while the Marines are decimating the enemy en masse.
Marines should ask Murtha if Chesty Puller would order retreat and surrender before the enemy.
John "The Jellyfish" Murtha should be shunned by all Marines and, if possible, legal steps should be taken to prevent this betrayer from being buried in a national cemetery upon his demise.
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Gunny Bob will be covering the topic of John Murtha's call for our military to surrender in Iraq on his show November 18th, Friday evening from 7pm to 10pm on 850am KOA. (mountain time)
You can listen LIVE at http://www.850koa.com/ - click Listen Live on the top left side of the page (no registration required)
Or because of the sun going down so early these days you can probably pick up the signal of the 50,000 watt blow torch of the Rockies on your radio with no problem, 850am KOA.
The call in number is 1-303-713-8585 and you can email Gunny Bob your thoughts and questions at:
gunnybob@850koa.com
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Gunny Bob's 850am KOA webpage:
http://www.850koa.com/shows/newman.html
Gunny Bob Newman at Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Newman
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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Olympian...thanks for the heads-up. I had Gunny Bob's show previously listed in our "Media Links" topic (which I inadvertently deleted) and will re-list it. |
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Deuce Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 589 Location: FL
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Olympian,
Yes, the successes of the Iraq War Campaign have become a major embarrassment to the Democrats, haven't they!
another view of Murtha here:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051118-122019-3370r.htm
(it's a 2 pager, so be sure to click the 'next' link at the bottom)
I'm sure we'll hear more 'Surrender Now while we have a chance' cries from the Dems while they're on vacation lo these next 2 weeks! Almost as obnoxius as telemarketers, but you can turn off the TV almost as fast as you hang up on the TMs!
Like Kerry last year, the Dems are doing a great job of polarizing the American voter! Next fall will be a great demographic on the Red/Blue debate, and our American Way of Life in general. I continue to believe that our boys returning from Iraq will continue to have the same kind of welcome home that our boys got returning from WWII. Americans ALL understand that the troops showed the WORLD that Americans thrive on their determination and will to preserve the American Way of Life that some would try to bring down. Those that try will fail. America in 1945 understood, and America in 2005 understands, and will continue to understand til the day the War against Terrorists ends. Murtha and his ilk are 'Stuck on Stupid'
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kimberly PO2
Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 377
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know anything about Murtha, other than he is retired military, but I gotta see a transcript of his 'speech' because I heard it live and alot of stuff that didn't seem on the up and up. Anyone else notice? I felt bad in a way, he was awfully emotional and seem to be doing this for emotional reasons or was pushed into it. Something smells not right. |
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GM Strong Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 1579 Location: Penna
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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kimberly wrote: | I don't know anything about Murtha, other than he is retired military, but I gotta see a transcript of his 'speech' because I heard it live and alot of stuff that didn't seem on the up and up. Anyone else notice? I felt bad in a way, he was awfully emotional and seem to be doing this for emotional reasons or was pushed into it. Something smells not right. |
He spent 37 yrs in the USMC reserves and has been in congress for 31. Something truly does not make sense here. Maybe San Fran Nan Pelosi knows. _________________ 8th Army Korea 68-69 |
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msindependent Vice Admiral
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 891 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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could be now that he's older a few ghosts/memories are flooding back. those in command have a heavy load that they can never show. however, i don't think that's all of it. as more comes out, this may have been one of those general/orincommand things for debate among friends. i've seen serveral (including mccain) that apparently wanted to send waves of troops over there to totally take over and occupy. he should have kept it to himself, he's not in charge anymore. military is more high tech now, etc. things change, this is a different type war. he got mad that it wasn't done his way and weepy about busted up soldiers, this made him weak and that let politics take over. because he's bull headed he just put the very troops he loves in harms way. not a smooth move and he should know better. he needs to retire from all and go fishing with his grandkids. |
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GM Strong Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 1579 Location: Penna
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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At TAS weblog: John Tabin
http://www.americanprowler.com/blogger.asp
The Myth of Murtha - Friday, November 18, 2005 @ 2:18:02 PM
This is a manufactured news story. Murtha is not a hawk, and hasn't been for at least a year and a half.
From the May 6, 2004 Roll Call (here's a Yahoo cache):
Signaling a new, more aggressive line against the Bush administration’s policy on Iraq, Rep. John Murtha (Pa.), the House Democrats’ most visible defense hawk, will join Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) today to make public his previously private statements that the conflict is “unwinnable.”
That didn't stop The Hill from making a big deal of it when Murtha endorsed Howard Dean for DNC chair:
The endorsement of the leading antiwar presidential candidate by one of the Democrats’ most prominent early supporters of the Iraq invasion signals a rehabilitation of Dean’s image in the House and greatly increases his prospects of leading the party, many Democratic lawmakers and aides said.
Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) is writing letters in support of Howard Dean. Several lawmakers said support by the hardscrabble, old-school Vietnam veteran, who endorsed former Rep. Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.) in the presidential primaries, would compel the DNC to take a second look at the firebrand governor and not simply write him off as an extreme avatar of the party’s antiwar wing.
That was in January, nearly eight months after Murtha joined the party's antiwar wing. Our esteemed press corps didn't check up on the Murtha-is-a-hawk spin then, and they didn't check up on it yesterday, either. Pathetic.
Posted By: John Tabin _________________ 8th Army Korea 68-69 |
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rparrott21 Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 760 Location: Mckinney, Texas
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Kerry is a Vietnam Vet also....and a traitor as well...Being a vet. doesn't make you an expert.... |
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srmorton PO2
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 383 Location: Jacksonville, NC
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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I think the Dems are getting desperate. The word is that Pelosi put him
up to this speech to steal the headlines from Woodward. I think that they
are realizing that time is running out for them to portray the Iraqi war as
a failure. Even if the MSM manages to downplay the December election
as much as they did the one in October, the completion of the original
timetable for setting up the new DEMOCRATICALLY elected government
will be seen by any impartial observer as an amazing achievement. We
are also getting closer and closer to the capture of Zawahari. The Iraqi
army is getting stronger and better trained by the day. The Dems know
that their only hope for winning their propaganda war is to get the troops
out prematurely before the Iraqi government is strong enough to hold
its own against the terrorists. As long as GWB has breath in his body
(and the Pubs retain control of Congress and thereby the purse strings),
the troops will finish the mission and honor the memories of those brave
men and women who have given their lives in the cause of freedom.
BTW, I just saw a comment by John Kerry scrolling across the screen
of FNC. He said the troops should come home and that he will not
allow the "swift-boating" of John Murtha. _________________ Susan R. Morton |
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LewWaters Admin
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 4042 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | but I gotta see a transcript of his 'speech' because I heard it live and alot of stuff that didn't seem on the up and up. |
Kimberly, the text of his speech is at his Congressional Website;
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/pa12_murtha/pr051117iraq.html
What galls me about all this is that if a Viet Nam Vet agrees with the left, he is a "Decorated" Veteran, a "War Hero," and such, regardless of what they may have done.
Oppose the left and they become political hacks, liars, brainwashed Republicans, in lock step with Karl Rove and such. I see no gratitude for the service of Veterans that oppose their view, only for the small handful that agree with them.
As for the "Swift Boating" of Murtha, Kerry should be afraid of that. No Liberal wants the truth about them to get out. |
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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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srmorton wrote: | BTW, I just saw a comment by John Kerry scrolling across the screen of FNC. He said the troops should come home and that he will not allow the "swift-boating" of John Murtha. |
Good catch...and here, for posterity, is John Kerry's use of "Swift Boat" as a pejorative...it was only a matter of time...
Quote: | "I won't stand for the swift-boating of Jack Murtha," Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004, responded Friday.
SF Chronicle |
I wonder how this will set with his "Band of Brothers" or the "Swift Boat Sailors Association".
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Schadow Vice Admiral
Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 936 Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Speaker Hastert has called for a rollcall vote in the full House tonight on a Murtha-based resolution calling for pullout/surrender. This will be a golden opportunity for Democrats to go on the record, by name. Should be interesting. Stay tuned.
Schadow _________________ Capt, 8th U.S. Army, Korea '53 - '54 |
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Deuce Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 589 Location: FL
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Schadow wrote: | Speaker Hastert has called for a rollcall vote in the full House tonight on a Murtha-based resolution calling for pullout/surrender. This will be a golden opportunity for Democrats to go on the record, by name. Should be interesting. Stay tuned.
Schadow |
Schadow,
Yes,
Actually Speaker Hastert called their bluff... Quote: | Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., offered the resolution demanding a pullout. The GOP-run House was expected to reject it _ and make a prominent statement about where Congress stands on Iraq _ as the chamber scurried toward a Thanksgiving break.
"We'll let the members debate it and then let them vote on it," said Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., the acting majority leader. |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1524732/posts
The vote's scheduled for 7pm...oughta be interesting how many are still around tonite to vote...wonder if CSPAn is broadcasting the debate?!!! YEP!!! gotta watch this!
Deuce |
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Schadow Vice Admiral
Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 936 Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Deuce wrote: | The vote's scheduled for 7pm...oughta be interesting how many are still around tonite to vote...wonder if CSPAn is broadcasting the debate?!!! YEP!!! gotta watch this!
Deuce |
What do you want to bet that most of the turkeys have already fled DC and there won't be a quorum, therefore no debate/vote?
Schadow _________________ Capt, 8th U.S. Army, Korea '53 - '54 |
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becca1223 PO3
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 293 Location: Colonial Heights, VA
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:02 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I know some who would agree with Murtha, but who?
It’s becoming obvious now that most of the regional powers including Arab countries as well as many former Ba’ath leaders began to realize that defeating America and pro-democracy Iraqis is not a reasonable objective anymore and that’s why they are making steps to join and/or support the political process. This came in the form of lowering the ceiling of their demands from an immediate withdrawal of coalition forces to setting a timetable for the process and this is what we’re hearing from the hardcore Sunni parties and people who speak for the Iraqi militant groups and in the Arab League’s attempts to host a reconciliation meeting.
The previous two and a half years lacked such moves and their appearance at this stage indicates that these opposition parties and Arab policy makers are getting tired of armed confrontation with the Iraqi and US forces since this confrontation hasn’t done them any good.
Maybe the most significant recent statement in this regard is the one made by Egypt’s foreign minister when he said that US forces presence in Iraq is necessary to “stabilize the country” and warned that a civil war could erupt if these troops leave now.
Such a statement lead us to the conclusion that countries like Egypt are no longer placing their money on the armed insurgency. And I really think they were forced to make this change in attitude because Iraq now is less than a month away from electing its first permanent (4 year term) government and the situation is no longer representing a temporary or transitional phenomenon but rather a solid transformation that began to take shape.
Con't at IRAQ THE MODEL
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