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shawa
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 Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:45 am Post subject: Bush Rejects Calls For Iraq Withdrawal (Kerry'swiftboating') |
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| Quote: | Bush Rejects Calls For Iraq Withdrawal
- By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent
Friday, November 18, 2005
(11-1 20:03 PST BUSAN, South Korea (AP) --
President Bush on Saturday swatted down calls in Congress for a U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq, saying that American military leaders believe that retreat now would be "a recipe for disaster."
"So we will fight the terrorists in Iraq and we will stay in the fight until we have achieved the victory our brave troops have fought and bled for," said Bush, facing mounting criticism from home about his war policy.
Bush defended his Iraq strategy in remarks prepared for a speech at Osan Air Base, headquarters for the 7th Air Force, the primary U.S. Air Force unit in Korea. He was to stop there on his way to China.
Traveling in Asia, there has been no respite from Iraq for Bush. He's had to deal with an Iraq rebuff from a friend, South Korea, and with turmoil over his policies back home.
"In Washington there are some who say that the sacrifice is too great, and they urged us to set a date for withdrawal before we have completed our mission," the president said. "Those who are in the fight know better."
Back home, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., a prominent defense hawk, called for a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq over six months. In a speech Thursday, Murtha said, "Our troops have become the primary target of the insurgency. They are united against U.S. forces and we have become a catalyst for violence. The war in Iraq is not going as advertised. It is a flawed policy wrapped in illusion."
Then on Friday, House Republicans staged a vote on a measure urging that a pullout begin immediately. The symbolic vote was intended to fail, and furious Democrats accused the GOP of orchestrating a political stunt during a nasty partisan debate.
In his remarks, Bush said that a senior commander in Iraq, Maj. Gen. William Webster, had said that setting a deadline for withdrawal would be "a recipe for disaster."
"And as long as I am commander in chief, our strategy in Iraq will be driven by the sober judgment of our military commanders on the ground," the president said.
sfgate.com |
Interesting-In the comments following this article at Lucianne.com was this one by who I think must be our own 'Navy Chief' re Kerry's swiftboating Murtha remark:
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Chief, 11/19/2005 9:47:22 AM
I did not care for kommy-kerry's reference to Murtha being swift-boated. The only reason kk had any trouble with some us is his desire to be CIC after siding with the commies after he got back from Vietnam. No matter how wonderful you think you are there is always someone willing to tell the truth about you. KK never learned that lesson. SAT CONG
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It really angers me that Kerry feels so confident in using "swiftboating" as akin to "smearing" because that reinforces that the good vets of this forum were liars and he was unfairly attacked. Grrrr!!
Now that he has cleansed his records and has supposedly "released them all" he thinks he's homefree and by reminding people that HE was "swiftboated" that no questions can ever be raised about him again.
Well, it may be difficult to prove but there is still a lot of evidence of his traitorous activities after he came back from Nam!! So don't feel too confident, Johnboy!! Because as Chief says "No matter how wonderful you think you are there is always someone willing to tell the truth about you. KK never learned that lesson. SAT CONG"
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shawa
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:07 am Post subject: |
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The fact is that there are innumerable decorated veterans who served their country heroically. But they have never used that service to promote themselves or their agenda.
If you don't think that Kerry is latching on to the "swiftboat=smear and lies", look again!
Ever the opportunist, this weekend he has been all over TV and has even sent out this e-mail to reporters:
(bolding mine-Shawa)
http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_11_13_corner-archive.asp#082956
| Quote: | KERRY TAKES ON THE SWIFTBOAT VETS RETROACTIVELY
[Katherine Jean Lopez]
E-mail he just sent out:
Dear Kathryn,
This is our moment of truth. You and I have to make it absolutely clear that we won't stand for Republican "Swift Boat" style attacks on Jack Murtha.
Yesterday, an extraordinary congressman, former Marine Drill Sergeant and decorated Vietnam veteran, spoke out on the war in Iraq. He didn't come to that moment lightly. He spoke his mind and spoke his heart out of love for his country and support for our troops. No sooner had the words left his lips than the vicious assault on his character and patriotism began.
Today, in a statement on the Senate floor, in interviews with the national media, and in this message to you, I am seeking out every opportunity to defend a brave American hero that the Republican attack machine has set their sights on.
I urge you to do the same. Whether you agree or disagree with Jack Murtha is irrelevant. These despicable attacks on Jack Murtha's patriotism and courage must be met with an enormous public outcry. Call your local talk radio show, write a letter to the editor, phone your members of Congress - join me in acting now to reject these "Swift Boat" style attacks on Jack Murtha.
It disgusts me that a bunch of guys who have never put on the uniform of their country have aimed their venom at a marine who served America heroically in Vietnam and has been serving heroically in Congress ever since. No matter what J.D. Hayworth says, there is no sterner stuff than the backbone and courage that defines Jack Murtha's character and conscience.
Dennis Hastert -- the Speaker of the House who never served -- accused Jack Murtha of being a coward. Well let me tell you, Jack Murtha wasn't a coward when he put himself in harm's way for his country in Vietnam and earned two purple hearts -- he was a patriot then, and he is a patriot today. Jack Murtha's courage in combat earned him a Bronze Star, and his voice should be heard, not silenced by those who still today cut and run from the truth.
Instead of letting his cronies run their mouths, the President for once should stop his allies from doing to Jack Murtha what he set them loose to do to John McCain in South Carolina and Max Cleland in Georgia.
The President should finally find the courage to debate the real issue instead of destroying anyone who speaks truth to power as they see it. It's time for Americans to stand up, fight back, and make it clear it's unacceptable to do this to any leader of any party anywhere in our country.
I urge you to join today in a massive public outcry that rejects the attempt to demonize and destroy anyone who dares to disagree with George W. Bush's aimless "stay for as long as it takes" policy on Iraq.
Please act now. Call and email your elected officials. Flood talk radio with calls rejecting these vicious smear tactics. Send a letter to the editor. Express your outrage about the tired old Rovian "Swift Boat" style attacks on Jack Murtha.
Sincerely,
John Kerry |
IMHO, Kerry doesn't give a hoot about Murtha, he is just using the opportunity to promote himself. This has been the most media exposure hes gotten in a long time.
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kate
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Dennis Hastert -- the Speaker of the House who never served -- accused Jack Murtha of being a coward. |
Kerry is lying about this ...Hasert never used the word...coward...
what Hasert actually said
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Deuce
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| kate wrote: | | Quote: | | Dennis Hastert -- the Speaker of the House who never served -- accused Jack Murtha of being a coward. |
Kerry is lying about this ...Hasert never used the word...coward...
what Hasert actually said |
Great Point Kate,
and a great opportunity to remind the public that what 'SwiftBoat' really implies is "bringing out the truth about a pathological liar to preclude his election to an office he does NOT deserve and could not Serve". The more the Kerry version gets air time, the more it will be rebuked by those with the facts. But only if those with the facts are given 'equal time'...and we know how our "Media" hates the facts! So it may be time to restart the engine of Truth!
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Schadow
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Finally, a contribution to the culture by Kerry - a new verb! A suggested entry for the next Webster's edition:
swiftboat - vt. To reveal the essence of a defective person. To shine truth on a lie or lies. swiftboat-ed, swiftboat-ing.
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Bob51
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| Schadow wrote: | A suggested entry for the next Webster's edition:
swiftboat - vt. To reveal the essence of a defective person. To shine truth on a lie or lies. swiftboat-ed, swiftboat-ing.
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Glanced at wikipedia: | Quote: | "Swift Boating"
... , the term "Swift Boating" has been used to describe a politically motivated smear campaign |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_Boat_Veterans_for_Truth
I have a slight interest in wikipedia entry verification. Does anyone know if this group was a participant in the entry refinement process? |
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GM Strong
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The term "Clintonization" would seem better suited to describe a politically motivated smear campaign. That's been the Liberal tactic since 1992. Perfected by "Sid Vicious" Blumenthal, Lanny Davis and Bob "The Loser" Shrum.
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| Bob51 wrote: | | I have a slight interest in wikipedia entry verification. Does anyone know if this group was a participant in the entry refinement process? |
Any Wikipedia entry that might have political overtones is guarded like Ft. Knox by a phalanx of leftist "editors" who will simply overwhelm most attempts at insertion of another point of view. While it might be a reputable source for things apolitical, it is a crude joke as an unbiased resource for contemporary issues.
Most folks have neither the time nor the inclination to fight the Wiki battle and simply cede them their playground. It's laughable when referenced as some "authoritative" source on a contentious issue. |
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Bob51
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| Me#1You#10 wrote: | | While it might be a reputable source for things apolitical, ...Most folks have neither the time nor the inclination to fight the Wiki battle and simply cede them their playground. It's laughable when referenced as some "authoritative" source on a contentious issue. |
That's the reason for my 'slight' interest. It's not actually regarded as a reputable source now for purely technology related issues, but, as you say, those outside the debates on the processes probably still do think of it as 'authoritative'. I'll try to find you a pointer on the more general debate on how wikipedia failed as a concept.
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Me#1You#10
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| Bob51 wrote: | | I'll try to find you a pointer on the more general debate on how wikipedia failed as a concept. |
That's fine, but let's save that for another topic...thread drift doncha know?  |
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PhantomSgt
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Kerry has once again shown he has lost touch with reality. This should be expected from a SINO like Kerry who never found an issue he had an original idea about. Talk about a waste of human flesh whose only adult experiences have been while on the government dole.
What a case for welfare fraud he is.
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