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kimberly
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| Schadow wrote: | | kimberly wrote: | | Crowley said that the dems had decided that Harry Reid should address the issue and all he said was something about not politicizing the war. |
"Not politicizing the war." Now, there's a novel idea. Harry has come up with a winner! 
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yep.....said it with a straight face too.
It's probably killing the other three not to speak up at all....of course anything they say will just backfire.
I hope that Hannity covers this tonight. |
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PhantomSgt
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| kimberly wrote: | | I hear now that Murtha nor Pelosi are included on this? I wonder why? |
Cards kept "close to the vest" to slam down late in the game.
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I B Squidly
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Tony Snow is reporting the Dem response to Lieberman's pro-war, pro-Bush warnings (He said the Dem attack on W was hurting the country). The usual suspects, Pelosi etc. say they respect him but disagree. Not for attribution they are saying, "He's just plan wrong and he's damaging a nationwide Democratic effort to undermine the President."
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dusty
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I B Squidly wrote: | | The usual suspects, Pelosi etc. say they respect him but disagree. Not for attribution they are saying, "He's just plan wrong and he's damaging a nationwide Democratic effort to undermine the President." |
Damn! I can hardly believe it. A bit of truth slipped out of a Commiecrat's mouth. We need to mark this down on a calender somewhere.
This statement should get to be a pretty famous quote.
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Schadow
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The Dems have finally gotten out an email to the faithful decrying the White Flag video. John Hinderaker over at PowerLine has it. The editorial remarks are John's:
| Quote: | It's obvious to nearly everyone that Iraq is a mess. Over two-thirds of Americans believe that Republicans have no clear plan for victory and about the same number disapprove of the way the war is being handled. Yet the administration and its increasingly desperate collaborators are determined to cover up their lies, mistakes, mismanagement and corruption.
How desperate are they? We saw a few weeks ago when extremist Republicans called decorated combat veteran and Democratic Congressman Jack Murtha a coward for daring to propose a new plan for Iraq. And today the Republican National Committee hit a new low -- even for them. They released a video that, according to press reports, "shows a white flag waving over images of Democratic leaders." [Ed.: "According to press reports"? Are they trying to pretend they haven't watched it themselves?]
It's been nearly three years since we went into Iraq, and things are getting worse, not better. That's why Democrats, independents, and even moderate Republicans are standing up for our troops [Ed.: That's not how the troops see it, of course.] and saying, "Enough is enough." We need a plan to accomplish our mission in Iraq. [Ed.: Actually, what the antiwar Democrats have offered is a plan to give up on our mission in Iraq.]
Jack Murtha offered his -- a strategic redeployment to make our forces in the Middle East more effective and get the target off of our troops' backs -- and many Democrats signed on. [Ed.: Note this utterly dishonest characterization of Murtha's call for surrender in Iraq. And "many" Democrats apparently means three.] Meanwhile, a bipartisan coalition of over 70 Senators came together to support a no confidence measure [Ed.: Huh?] and lay out a plan to make 2006 a transition year in Iraq. No one expects everyone to agree on what the new plan should be, but everyone should agree that we need a new plan. All the RNC has to offer is an inflammatory video and smearing of its opponents. [Ed.: The Democrats are the only party who think that if you show a video of them expressing their opinions, you're smearing them. They are right about one thing, though: the video is inflammatory. If enough people knew how the Democrats really think, they'd be swept out of office.]
How can you stop this sickening behavior? There is only one language Republican leaders understand -- the language of money. It's what their leaders live on -- and what has gotten several of them indicted. If they know that every disingenuous attack means another $100,000 for the Democratic Party, they will think twice about launching them. [Ed.: Yes, all those dirty Republicans care about is money. Show you're not like them by sending us money!] |
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/012507.php
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dusty
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It's obvious to nearly everyone that Iraq is a mess. Over two-thirds of Americans believe that Republicans have no clear plan for victory and about the same number disapprove of the way the war is being handled. Yet the administration and its increasingly desperate collaborators are determined to cover up their lies, mistakes, mismanagement and corruption. |
See, there they go again with that "Iraq is a mess" statement. They figure if they say it often enough and keep saying that most Americans believe that the President has no plan and calling him a liar that eventually most Americans WILL believe it.
And they know damn well that they are the ones doing the lying. And they know damn well that they are lying in an attempt to undermine the President of the United States while we are at war and possibly cause the United States to lose this war and have irreperable consequences in the future purely for political gain.
Now if that's not treason, what the hell is?
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Schadow
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| dusty wrote: | | See, there they go again with that "Iraq is a mess" statement. They figure if they say it often enough and keep saying that most Americans believe that the President has no plan and calling him a liar that eventually most Americans WILL believe it. |
Yes, "mess" has apparently replaced "quagmire" which replaced "Vietnam." What will be the analogy-of-the-day next week?
The problem with Democrat messages is that they have an immense megaphone in the MSM. All the DNC has to do is spout treasonous statements once and the repeater stations all across the nation (and world) faithfully amplify them. We have to hope that conservative messages will increase to the point of further destabilizing the Dems and have faith that right-thinking Americans will not be bamboozled.
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Harvuskong
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Latest report on Demo protest over the White Flag Ads
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash9.htm
| Quote: | SENATOR CALLS ON BUSH TO TAKE DOWN ATTACK AD
Sat Dec 10 2005 16:41:38 ET
Today, Senator Daniel Inouye, the Ranking Member of the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee and a recipient of the Medal of Honor for his service in World War II, released the following statement:
"As a Veteran of World War II, I know what it’s like to fight a war and put your life on the line every day. I also know what it takes to win a war, and I know that politics and an attack machine like the President’s plays no part in it.
"The Republican Party’s latest ad is a shameful and disgusting attempt to distract the American people from the problems in Iraq. It may improve the President’s political fortunes, but the American people and our troops will pay the price. I hope that President Bush realizes how shameful it is to play politics when what we really need is leadership, and that he will direct his Party to take down this ad immediately."
Developing...
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Schadow
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| Harvuskong wrote: | | SENATOR CALLS ON BUSH TO TAKE DOWN ATTACK AD |
PowerLine's on-target response:
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/012510.php
| Quote: | This is really one of the dumbest statements we've seen from the Democrats yet. Inouye says he "knows what it takes to win a war." But the Democrats aren't talking about how to win in Iraq, they are talking about abandoning the effort. That is to say, losing.
Inouye says the ad seeks to "distract the American people from the problems in Iraq." Actually, of course, there is no chance the American people will forget that there are problems in Iraq, since nearly every news report about the country focuses exclusively on those problems. What Inouye wants is for all the news to be bad all the time, and for the Republicans to refrain from pointing out that in fact, notwithstanding the problems, we are not losing in Iraq. We are winning. It is not defeat in Iraq the Democrats fear, it is victory. They are scared to death that it is happening before their eyes.
Finally, Inouye denounces the Republicans for "playing politics" on Iraq. This is hilarious. The ad shows Democrats saying that we have no chance to win in Iraq and should pull out. How is it "playing politics" to let the American people know what the Democrats are saying? Are the Democrats ashamed of their own words? And why isn't it "playing politics" when the Democrats launch one false, vicious attack after another against the administration, but only when the administration defends itself?
The truth is that the Democrats have never done anything about Iraq other than to play politics. When they thought it was to their political advantage, they pretended to support the war. The moment they thought it was to their political advantage to abandon our soldiers' efforts, that's what they advocated. They pretend that no progress is being made in Iraq when they know that is not the case, and they try to shout down anyone who disagrees with them. What is prompting the present hysteria is that they are afraid the Iraq issue isn't playing the way they expected it to. What a party! Two and a half years into a war, and they're still trying to keep their options open. |
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