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Me#1You#10
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:01 pm Post subject: ABC/Time Poll: Broad Optimism in Iraq... |
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More evidence that MSM may be trying to cover their hind-quarters against growing allegations of "defeatism"? Nor is there any lack of hand-wringing pessimism in the analysis, but it IS good to note, at least, an element of optimism introducing the story (even with an obligatory negative qualifier close at its heels).
The following is amusing and, perhaps, indicative of the authors' mindset?...
| Quote: | | Specifically, 26 percent of Iraqis say U.S. and other coalition forces should "leave now" and another 19 percent say they should go after the government chosen in this week's election takes office; that adds to 45 percent. Roughly the other half says coalition forces should remain until security is restored (31 percent), until Iraqi security forces can operate independently (16 percent), or longer (5 percent). |
And that adds to? For the benefit of the math challenged (and those who might only wish to stress negative numbers), 52%.
Oh...and Drudge's headline?
| Quote: | | ABCNEWS POLL: 71% Of Iraqis Say Life Is Going Good... |
Some fodder here for all...
| Quote: | Poll: Broad Optimism in Iraq, But Also Deep Divisions Among Groups
On the Eve of the Elections, Most Iraqis Want Iraq To Stay Unified
Analysis By GARY LANGER and JON COHEN
ABC News
Dec. 12, 2005 — Surprising levels of optimism prevail in Iraq with living conditions improved, security more a national worry than a local one, and expectations for the future high. But views of the country's situation overall are far less positive, and there are vast differences in views among Iraqi groups — a study in contrasts between increasingly disaffected Sunni areas and vastly more positive Shiite and Kurdish provinces.
An ABC News poll in Iraq, conducted with Time magazine and other media partners, includes some remarkable results: Despite the daily violence there, most living conditions are rated positively, seven in 10 Iraqis say their own lives are going well, and nearly two-thirds expect things to improve in the year ahead.
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kate
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:09 am Post subject: |
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the ole LSM sure has been flip-flopping around of late, covering their tails...
I got a chuckle out of this soldier's response to Murtha's citing of polls
from | Quote: | The Party of Defeat
By David Bellavia
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 9, 2005
As an infantryman whose boots are still caked with blood and dust from Iraq, I am at a loss to understand what Representative John Murtha (D-PA) was thinking when he recently delivered his defeatist comments about our military efforts.
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Iraq, of course, is a different story. John Murtha, offering his Bronze Star with Valor (BSV) as a badge of his authority, demands a precipitous withdrawal from Iraq. On behalf of every veteran of Iraqi Freedom who has exchanged hot lead with the enemy, allow me to observe that Congressman Murtha does not understand the situation in Iraq. Murtha quotes an unscientific poll that asserts that “80 percent of Iraqi’s want us out.” I am no John Zogby but I conclude that 100 percent of Iraqis want us out—eventually. At the moment, however, they very much want us there while Islamofascists continue to blow them up. And they want us to continue training them to defend themselves in the cause of freedom.
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PhantomSgt
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:56 am Post subject: |
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We should not even think about leaving the Middle East until the regimes in Syria and Iran are taken out. Iraq provides a strategic springboard for us to resolve our security needs at home.
If we pull out of the area and leave these festering problems behind, it will result in our national security being threatened for centuries to come.
If you want to keep terrorist controlled nukes out of your American city we must support the war on terror and demand the Syria and Iran regimes go into exile or be killed.
The Mullahs and Assad have banked enough of their respective countries national wealt to live quite well.
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GenrXr
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| PhantomSgt wrote: | We should not even think about leaving the Middle East until the regimes in Syria and Iran are taken out. Iraq provides a strategic springboard for us to resolve our security needs at home.
If we pull out of the area and leave these festering problems behind, it will result in our national security being threatened for centuries to come.
If you want to keep terrorist controlled nukes out of your American city we must support the war on terror and demand the Syria and Iran regimes go into exile or be killed.
The Mullahs and Assad have banked enough of their respective countries national wealt to live quite well.
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Agreed.
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